US Government Shutdown- It's Over!... For Now

[Fartsniffage]

Because legally the party cannot do that.

... But they have fundraisers all the time.

What would be the best way to have a legitimate fund?

Propose a tax increase to fund the wall.

[Vassenor]

Because legally the party cannot do that.

... But they have fundraisers all the time.

What would be the best way to have a legitimate fund?

Not for actual public works projects that are supposed to be funded by the government.

[Telconi]

... But they have fundraisers all the time.

What would be the best way to have a legitimate fund?

Not for actual public works projects that are supposed to be funded by the government.

That's silly.

[Vassenor]

Not for actual public works projects that are supposed to be funded by the government.

That's silly.

Yes, how dare there be actual checks and balances to stop Trump bypassing the government to get his useless white elephant of a monument funded.

[Brittany Normandy Aquitaine]

quickly imma say build the wall, a majority of people able to illegally enter and commit crimes and/or try to live here is through the border, the wall will stop any land illegal immigration, and people coming in by seas and planes is unlikely, you expect a plane to land far from civilization and then for them to track some sort of town/city and try to blend in, and that is without the plane crashing rather than landing? i'd think not, but yeah build the wall, deal with illegal immigration.

[Telconi]

That's silly.

Yes, how dare there be actual checks and balances to stop Trump bypassing the government to get his useless white elephant of a monument funded.

Other people can't spend their money on stuff you don't like?

[The Rich Port]

That's silly.

Yes, how dare there be actual checks and balances to stop Trump bypassing the government to get his useless white elephant of a monument funded.

Granted, I would be all for the burden of this fucking stupid-ass wall falling squarely on the people who think it's a good idea.

Not for actual public works projects that are supposed to be funded by the government.

That's silly.

Yeah it's silly to shutdown the government over a shitty wall that doesn't work, but here we fucking are.

[Fartsniffage]

quickly imma say build the wall, a majority of people able to illegally enter and commit crimes and/or try to live here is through the border, the wall will stop any land illegal immigration, and people coming in by seas and planes is unlikely, you expect a plane to land far from civilization and then for them to track some sort of town/city and try to blend in, and that is without the plane crashing rather than landing? i'd think not, but yeah build the wall, deal with illegal immigration.

Yes, I'm sure an obstacle that takes a few minutes to climb over will stop the kind of people who are willing to ford a fucking river in the freezing night to get to the US....

[Telconi]

Yes, how dare there be actual checks and balances to stop Trump bypassing the government to get his useless white elephant of a monument funded.

Granted, I would be all for the burden of this fucking stupid-ass wall falling squarely on the people who think it's a good idea.

That's silly.

Yeah it's silly to shutdown the government over a shitty wall that doesn't work, but here we fucking are.

Yes, I'm aware of where we are, thanks for checking in...

[Telconi]

quickly imma say build the wall, a majority of people able to illegally enter and commit crimes and/or try to live here is through the border, the wall will stop any land illegal immigration, and people coming in by seas and planes is unlikely, you expect a plane to land far from civilization and then for them to track some sort of town/city and try to blend in, and that is without the plane crashing rather than landing? i'd think not, but yeah build the wall, deal with illegal immigration.

Yes, I'm sure an obstacle that takes a few minutes to climb over will stop the kind of people who are willing to ford a fucking river in the freezing night to get to the US....

Which is a problem isn't it, there is no relative deterrence.

[Vassenor]

quickly imma say build the wall, a majority of people able to illegally enter and commit crimes and/or try to live here is through the border, the wall will stop any land illegal immigration, and people coming in by seas and planes is unlikely, you expect a plane to land far from civilization and then for them to track some sort of town/city and try to blend in, and that is without the plane crashing rather than landing? i'd think not, but yeah build the wall, deal with illegal immigration.

We already know that the current design of the wall is incredibly easy to breach.

[The Rich Port]

Granted, I would be all for the burden of this fucking stupid-ass wall falling squarely on the people who think it's a good idea.



Yeah it's silly to shutdown the government over a shitty wall that doesn't work, but here we fucking are.

Yes, I'm aware of where we are, thanks for checking in...

Coulda fucking fooled me.

quickly imma say build the wall, a majority of people able to illegally enter and commit crimes and/or try to live here is through the border, the wall will stop any land illegal immigration, and people coming in by seas and planes is unlikely, you expect a plane to land far from civilization and then for them to track some sort of town/city and try to blend in, and that is without the plane crashing rather than landing? i'd think not, but yeah build the wall, deal with illegal immigration.

Yes, I'm sure an obstacle that takes a few minutes to climb over will stop the kind of people who are willing to ford a fucking river in the freezing night to get to the US....

Or the majority of them, which come to the U.S. legally on comfy boats and planes and overstay their work visas.

[Telconi]

Yes, I'm aware of where we are, thanks for checking in...

Coulda fucking fooled me.

Yes, I'm sure an obstacle that takes a few minutes to climb over will stop the kind of people who are willing to ford a fucking river in the freezing night to get to the US....

Or the majority of them, which come to the U.S. legally on comfy boats and planes and overstay their work visas.

Indeed...

[Kannap]

quickly imma say build the wall, a majority of people able to illegally enter and commit crimes and/or try to live here is through the border, the wall will stop any land illegal immigration, and people coming in by seas and planes is unlikely, you expect a plane to land far from civilization and then for them to track some sort of town/city and try to blend in, and that is without the plane crashing rather than landing? i'd think not, but yeah build the wall, deal with illegal immigration.

The majority of illegal immigrants enter legally through border checkpoints or airplanes into airports and then they overstay their visas, but sure, a wall will stop them.

[Kannap]

Yes, I'm sure an obstacle that takes a few minutes to climb over will stop the kind of people who are willing to ford a fucking river in the freezing night to get to the US....

Which is a problem isn't it, there is no relative deterrence.

Was this the thread that exploded into a huge debacle about whether the army should shoot people attacking the wall or was that another thread?

Is it time for round two?

[Fartsniffage]

Yes, I'm sure an obstacle that takes a few minutes to climb over will stop the kind of people who are willing to ford a fucking river in the freezing night to get to the US....

Which is a problem isn't it, there is no relative deterrence.

I mean, a few hundred each year die just trying to cross the boarder. That's kinda a deterrence.

[The Rich Port]

Yes, I'm sure an obstacle that takes a few minutes to climb over will stop the kind of people who are willing to ford a fucking river in the freezing night to get to the US....

Which is a problem isn't it, there is no relative deterrence.

No, that's not the problem at all. The problem is that ignorant people think there needs to be deterrence in the first place.

Granted, I'm not one for letting dangerous criminals in, but they're a MINORITY of the people coming in. We SHOULD NOT be spending this much money keeping out innocent civilians who are just looking for a better life.

So instead of admitting that's the problem, you and people like you lie about it.

So I take it you're not aware, then?

[Telconi]

Which is a problem isn't it, there is no relative deterrence.

I mean, a few hundred each year die just trying to cross the boarder. That's kinda a deterrence.

But it isn't a relative one.

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

This doesn't work with something like border protection, a migrant cannot pass on to the other United States next door that doesn't have a wall. Therefore, he'll continue attempting to enter.

[Telconi]

Which is a problem isn't it, there is no relative deterrence.

No, that's not the problem at all. The problem is that ignorant people think there needs to be deterrence in the first place.

Granted, I'm not one for letting dangerous criminals in, but they're a MINORITY of the people coming in. We SHOULD NOT be spending this much money keeping out innocent civilians who are just looking for a better life.

So instead of admitting that's the problem, you and people like you lie about it.

So I take it you're not aware, then?

I must have missed that part, perhaps on account of being an invention created in your head.

[Fartsniffage]

I mean, a few hundred each year die just trying to cross the boarder. That's kinda a deterrence.

But it isn't a relative one.

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

This doesn't work with something like border protection, a migrant cannot pass on to the other United States next door that doesn't have a wall. Therefore, he'll continue attempting to enter.

A where does this chain of logic take you?

[New haven america]

But it isn't a relative one.

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

This doesn't work with something like border protection, a migrant cannot pass on to the other United States next door that doesn't have a wall. Therefore, he'll continue attempting to enter.

A where does this chain of logic take you?

>Implying the chain of logic actually makes some semblance of sense

[The Rich Port]

I mean, a few hundred each year die just trying to cross the boarder. That's kinda a deterrence.

But it isn't a relative one.

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

This doesn't work with something like border protection, a migrant cannot pass on to the other United States next door that doesn't have a wall. Therefore, he'll continue attempting to enter.

You need to stop taking rhetoric analogy notes from Donald Trump.

Border Patrol has K9 units, so.

https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/alo ... ciplines-2

[Telconi]

But it isn't a relative one.

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

This doesn't work with something like border protection, a migrant cannot pass on to the other United States next door that doesn't have a wall. Therefore, he'll continue attempting to enter.

A where does this chain of logic take you?

Right back to your original post in which I quoted, that's generally how agreement functions.

[New haven america]

I mean, a few hundred each year die just trying to cross the boarder. That's kinda a deterrence.

But it isn't a relative one.

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

This doesn't work with something like border protection, a migrant cannot pass on to the other United States next door that doesn't have a wall. Therefore, he'll continue attempting to enter.

Border patrol has K9 units, deary.

[Telconi]

But it isn't a relative one.

Relative deterrence is like having a dog, If I have a big ol' loud dog, a burglar is more likely to pass on my house to attempt to burgle a house without a big ol' mean dog.

This doesn't work with something like border protection, a migrant cannot pass on to the other United States next door that doesn't have a wall. Therefore, he'll continue attempting to enter.

You need to stop taking rhetoric analogy notes from Donald Trump.

Border Patrol has K9 units, so.

https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/alo ... ciplines-2

And this is relevant how?