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Will the government shutdown in three weeks?

Yes
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No
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:03 am

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Is it? You could just as easily point to the people who didn't put the wall funding in the budget. They knew Trump had the ability to veto the bill. Giving him deliberate reason to and expecting him not to makes this just as much their 'fault' as much as it is his.


The majority of people do not support the wall, so why should they put in the budget for a wall when it's really just an election rally cry of his, give him this and then what.. he'll start blathering on about locking up Hillary Clinton again and shut down the government if that's not done..

..it's his call, he asked for it.. he's not getting it and so he's shut down government as his petulant response.

It's his fault.

Remember her said it was the President's fault and the president should be fired, when the President was Obama.

Now he's had three shutdowns. What does that tell you?

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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:04 am

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I believe he said a week or so ago that thousands of people not getting paid have been calling him to say they prefer the wall to getting paid.

I wish I was making this up.

Has anyone checked to see if there's a toy trolley that runs through his room?
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“Many of those people that won’t be receiving a paycheck, many of those people agree 100 percent with what I’m doing,”

There, that's the quote.. I imagine he got this idea from the same voices in his head that told him all the former presidents were secretly telling him they support his idea, that many EU leaders called him to say how they couldn't believe they'd been allowed to take advantage of the US for so long before he came and how the Finnish president told him to rake forests.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:04 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I believe he said a week or so ago that thousands of people not getting paid have been calling him to say they prefer the wall to getting paid.

I wish I was making this up.

Has anyone checked to see if there's a toy trolley that runs through his room?
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Obviously not that one, it's not gold enough.
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Postby The Grims » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:04 am

Is Trump investing any of his own money in the wall - or is he not allowed to do so as president ?

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:05 am

Katganistan wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
The majority of people do not support the wall, so why should they put in the budget for a wall when it's really just an election rally cry of his, give him this and then what.. he'll start blathering on about locking up Hillary Clinton again and shut down the government if that's not done..

..it's his call, he asked for it.. he's not getting it and so he's shut down government as his petulant response.

It's his fault.

Remember her said it was the President's fault and the president should be fired, when the President was Obama.

Now he's had three shutdowns. What does that tell you?

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:10 am

The Grims wrote:Is Trump investing any of his own money in the wall - or is he not allowed to do so as president ?

As long at he doesn't have a conflict of interest he's allowed to use his money however he likes.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:10 am

New haven america wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Has anyone checked to see if there's a toy trolley that runs through his room?
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Obviously not that one, it's not gold enough.

And that one is the product of one of the kindest people on earth. I kinda feel bad associating the two.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:10 am

Katganistan wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
The majority of people do not support the wall, so why should they put in the budget for a wall when it's really just an election rally cry of his, give him this and then what.. he'll start blathering on about locking up Hillary Clinton again and shut down the government if that's not done..

..it's his call, he asked for it.. he's not getting it and so he's shut down government as his petulant response.

It's his fault.

Remember her said it was the President's fault and the president should be fired, when the President was Obama.

Now he's had three shutdowns. What does that tell you?


Honestly his tweets from that period are golden..

FACT – the reason why Americans have to worry about a government shutdown is because Obama refuses to pass a budget.

Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.

"@jj10471 @realDonaldTrump if you were in office this would of never happen #trump2016"
True!


..and then during a FOX & Friends interview at the time..

"If you say who gets fired, it always has to be the top. Problems start from the top, and they have to get solved from the top, and the president’s the leader, and he’s got to get everybody in a room, and he’s got to lead. And he doesn’t do that, he doesn’t like doing that, that’s not his strength."

Trump also said that further down in history "when they talk about the government shutdown, they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States, who the president was at that time. They’re not going to be talking about who was the head of the House, the head the Senate, who’s running things in Washington. So I really think the pressure is on the president."


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Postby Katganistan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:15 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:you know...I don't get why dems are surprised by this. America voted for a president who built his campaign around building a big fucking wall. So he wants to build a big fucking wall.

Nah, the popular vote, which is the population, did not elect Trump.
The electoral college did.

Big difference.

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Postby The Grims » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:17 am

New haven america wrote:
The Grims wrote:Is Trump investing any of his own money in the wall - or is he not allowed to do so as president ?

As long at he doesn't have a conflict of interest he's allowed to use his money however he likes.


So how much is he donating ?
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:18 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Wasn't Trump's election promise to build a wall without tax payers footing the bill?

Surprise. He lies.
How do you know?
Watch to see if his mouth is moving.
Or if he's typing furiously on Twitter.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:19 am

Katganistan wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:you know...I don't get why dems are surprised by this. America voted for a president who built his campaign around building a big fucking wall. So he wants to build a big fucking wall.

Nah, the popular vote, which is the population, did not elect Trump.
The electoral college did.

Big difference.


Then that ought to be fixed.

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:20 am

The Grims wrote:
New haven america wrote:As long at he doesn't have a conflict of interest he's allowed to use his money however he likes.


So how much is he donating ?

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:21 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Nah, the popular vote, which is the population, did not elect Trump.
The electoral college did.

Big difference.


Then that ought to be fixed.

Cue the people screaming about state's rights and the horror that is majority rule.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:27 am

New haven america wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Then that ought to be fixed.

Cue the people screaming about state's rights and the horror that is majority rule.

Don't remind people that the EC was formed to protect slavery, that'll really piss 'em off.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:28 am

New haven america wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Then that ought to be fixed.

Cue the people screaming about state's rights and the horror that is majority rule.


To be fair, this is what the rural population are most afraid of: the belief that the urban population will ignore or pay little attention to rural concerns.

And frankly, I can see some of their points.

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Postby Katganistan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:29 am

Myrensis wrote:So apparently Trump is a bit worried that his supporters might not be so enthusiastically behind him when they realize it means they're not getting their tax returns for the foreseeable future, and his lawyers are now trying to push the legally questionable idea that the government can recall furloughed IRS workers and have them work through the shutdown without pay to ensure that tax returns are sent out.

Oh.

So you mean the idea that his base would revolt if their checks don't come isn't so impossible.

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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:30 am

Kowani wrote:
New haven america wrote:Cue the people screaming about state's rights and the horror that is majority rule.

Don't remind people that the EC was formed to protect slavery, that'll really piss 'em off.

Protect slavery and make sure there's a failsafe incase the stupid general population makes a choice the government doesn't like, yes.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:31 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
New haven america wrote:Cue the people screaming about state's rights and the horror that is majority rule.


To be fair, this is what the rural population are most afraid of: the belief that the urban population will ignore or pay little attention to rural concerns.

And frankly, I can see some of their points.

This is the reason we have state and local governments.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:32 am

Katganistan wrote:
Myrensis wrote:So apparently Trump is a bit worried that his supporters might not be so enthusiastically behind him when they realize it means they're not getting their tax returns for the foreseeable future, and his lawyers are now trying to push the legally questionable idea that the government can recall furloughed IRS workers and have them work through the shutdown without pay to ensure that tax returns are sent out.

Oh.

So you mean the idea that his base would revolt if their checks don't come isn't so impossible.


Panem et circenses, it's a helluva powerful force.

One the panem stops coming, the populace will turn on whoever was providing it in the first place.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:32 am

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Ifreann wrote:They really are not. Obama was denied time for an address.


They must not have paid attention when licensing..

I believe they denied it on the grounds it was overtly political given it was about.. immigration.

And yet.
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Postby Katganistan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:34 am

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Kowani wrote:800,000 people without pay, food stamps are going t'crash soon, and the IRS can't return your money. How exactly is this good?

Working for the gubb'mint enables fascism, they deserve everything they get for relying on Big Brother instead of their own hard labour.

My tax return IS my money that I earned with my hard labor.
So is Social Security. They force us to pay into it and shit it away and raided the fund to tell us we won't get it and we should have planned better.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:10 am

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The USA has a president who believes Americans are merely extras in his "reality/drama/comedy show" on primetime HBO.


Then again, his opponents acted like two extraterrestrial wax statues trying to speak human.

So congratulations America, your politics have become...pathetic isn't even enough to describe that.

Become?

Oh boy.

Also I thought they where cardboard cutouts
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:11 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:If I had to choose between two people who were a little wooden during a televised speech and a delusional maniac...I don't feel like this is really that hard of a decision.


Orrr y'all could get a Dem with charisma, because believe it or not, you will not be attracting many with people who are often perceived as establishment puppets nowadays if they speak without tone or heart.

Someone get the crazy haired old Jew to rant and rave about Trump
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:15 am

Where’s the option for “I don’t give a shit about this ant more I want to get off this ride?”
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