Denmark Passes Law Requiring New Citizens Shake Hands

[El-Amin Caliphate]

>requiring an handshake during the ceremony
>"""so difficult"""

>allowing successful applicants to show respect during the ceremony in other ways
>"""so difficult"""

^This too

[New Bremerton]

El Amin is precisely the kind of fundamentalist Muslim who shouldn't be allowed into Denmark or any other non-Muslim country. He has been brutally honest about his views on handshaking, his lack of respect for other cultures and faiths besides his own, the "inerrancy" and 'immutability" of his religion and Holy Book, his views on gender equality and LGBT rights, and his willingness to wage all-out war on anyone who challenges his religious views and customs in any way, so far on this thread.

If he was Richard Spencer, he would be rightly denounced as a fascist. If he was Jerry Falwell, he would be rightly denounced as a theocrat. It is just as well he has no intention of living in Denmark.

The fact that certain non-Muslims in the West are prepared to welcome people like him into their countries and grant them the right to vote as citizens despite this is something that I find truly baffling.

I'd say the idea that people should only be allowed to vote if you personally approve of their views and opinions is pretty baffling too.

You would allow a certain type of foreigner to vote in your country, knowing full well that they hold abhorrent views and wouldn't hesitate to impose their hateful agenda via the ballot box? Suppose they were to say bigoted things about Jews or LGBT people? Would you still be willing to grant them citizenship even then? I would personally tell them to GTFO and stop threatening minorities.

If they are already born and bred citizens, then that's a slightly different matter.

[Geneviev]

As a certain non-Muslim in the West, Amin is the kind of person I'd want in my country. Denmark is wrong to make it so difficult for Muslims to become citizens.

>requiring an handshake during the ceremony
>"""so difficult"""

It is quite difficult to do something that you believe is wrong to do. It would be difficult for a Christian to be forced to sin as well.

As a certain non-Muslim in the West, Amin is the kind of person I'd want in my country. Denmark is wrong to make it so difficult for Muslims to become citizens.

Unfortunately I do not speak German. Thanks for the invitation though

You know, if you ever find yourself wanting to live in Denmark and they don't let you because of something as insignificant as a handshake, just know that Germany isn't that bad. You'd be much more welcome.

[Aellex]

>requiring an handshake during the ceremony
>"""so difficult"""

>allowing successful applicants to show respect during the ceremony in other ways
>"""so difficult"""

They aren't successful until they're accepted and they aren't accepted until they can do something as easy as shaking an hand.

[Vassenor]

I'd say the idea that people should only be allowed to vote if you personally approve of their views and opinions is pretty baffling too.

You would allow a certain type of foreigner to vote in your country, knowing full well that they hold abhorrent views and wouldn't hesitate to impose their hateful agenda via the ballot box? Suppose they were to say bigoted things about Jews or LGBT people? Would you still be willing to grant them citizenship even then? I would personally tell them to GTFO and stop threatening minorities.

If they are already born and bred citizens, then that's a slightly different matter.

So based on that logic when are we taking the vote away from conservative Christians?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'd say the idea that people should only be allowed to vote if you personally approve of their views and opinions is pretty baffling too.

You would allow a certain type of foreigner to vote in your country, knowing full well that they hold abhorrent views and wouldn't hesitate to impose their hateful agenda via the ballot box?

Well we let native-born citizens with the same hateful views vote. I don't see much of a difference.

Suppose they were to say bigoted things about Jews or LGBT people? Would you still be willing to grant them citizenship even then? I would personally tell them to GTFO and stop threatening minorities.

As long as they don't hurt anyone, I'd let them in.

If they are already born and bred citizens, then that's a slightly different matter.

No it's not.

>requiring an handshake during the ceremony
>"""so difficult"""

It is quite difficult to do something that you believe is wrong to do. It would be difficult for a Christian to be forced to sin as well.

Unfortunately I do not speak German. Thanks for the invitation though

You know, if you ever find yourself wanting to live in Denmark and they don't let you because of something as insignificant as a handshake, just know that Germany isn't that bad. You'd be much more welcome.

I personally don't find hand shaking the opposite sex haram, I just know this law is stupid.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

>allowing successful applicants to show respect during the ceremony in other ways
>"""so difficult"""

They aren't successful until they're accepted and they aren't accepted until they can do something as easy as shaking an hand.

For you, maybe. For me, I'd accept them.

[Vassenor]

>allowing successful applicants to show respect during the ceremony in other ways
>"""so difficult"""

They aren't successful until they're accepted and they aren't accepted until they can do something as easy as shaking an hand.

So you want to throw arbitrary roadblocks in the way of someone who has otherwise earned their citizenship because difference is triggering for you. Got it.

[Aellex]

So you want to throw arbitrary roadblocks in the way of someone who has otherwise earned their citizenship because difference is triggering for you. Got it.

>handshake
>arbitrary roadblock

See that as another test of social integration to make sure they're ready to be citizens rather than bitch and whine about it. :^)

[El-Amin Caliphate]

They aren't successful until they're accepted and they aren't accepted until they can do something as easy as shaking an hand.

So you want to throw arbitrary roadblocks in the way of someone who has otherwise earned their citizenship because difference is triggering for you. Got it.

For right-wingers to be telling people to stop acting like special snowflakes, they should be practicing what they preach.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

So you want to throw arbitrary roadblocks in the way of someone who has otherwise earned their citizenship because difference is triggering for you. Got it.

>handshake
>arbitrary roadblock

See that as another test of social integration to make sure they're ready to be citizens rather than b and whine about it. :^)

As oppossed to whining because someone doesn't want to shake your hand?

[Aellex]

For you, maybe. For me, I'd accept them.

You're an Islamist Communautarist so of course you would but that's irrelevant.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

For you, maybe. For me, I'd accept them.

You're an Islamist Communautarist so of course you would but that's irrelevant.

>Communautrist
How can I be something I don't even know the meaning to? And what makes my opinion irrelevant?

[Aellex]

As oppossed to whining because someone doesn't want to shake your hand?

Refusing to shake someone's hand is a show of disrespect worthy of getting angry over, indeed.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

As oppossed to whining because someone doesn't want to shake your hand?

Refusing to shake someone's hand is a show of disrespect worthy of getting angry over, indeed.

Yeah, if they don't accept it and leave it at that. Fortunately dozens of other greetings exist.
And personally I wouldn't get angry from not getting a handshake. Confused and a small thought of "Well that's kinda rude", but not angry.

[Hatterleigh]

That is straight up gangster

[Aellex]

>Communautrist
How can I be something I don't even know the meaning to? And what makes my opinion irrelevant?

"Proponent of identity politics" if you want a synonym.

You're an American Islamist talking about a law that's essentially a middle finger given to Islamist in an European country.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

>Communautrist
How can I be something I don't even know the meaning to? And what makes my opinion irrelevant?

"Proponent of identity politics" if you want a synonym.

You're an American Islamist talking about a law that's essentially a middle finger given to Islamist in an European country.

This law isn't really related to Islamism. Not shaking hands with the opposite sex is a common belief in the Ummah and outside it.

And idk about the identity politics. I don't really consider myself that.

[The Alma Mater]

You would allow a certain type of foreigner to vote in your country, knowing full well that they hold abhorrent views and wouldn't hesitate to impose their hateful agenda via the ballot box? Suppose they were to say bigoted things about Jews or LGBT people? Would you still be willing to grant them citizenship even then? I would personally tell them to GTFO and stop threatening minorities.

If they are already born and bred citizens, then that's a slightly different matter.

So based on that logic when are we taking the vote away from conservative Christians?

You mean conservative christians who are not born in the country itself ?
One hopes they never get it.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

So based on that logic when are we taking the vote away from conservative Christians?

You mean conservative christians who are not born in the country itself ?
One hopes they never get it.

Who is this "one"? Because it's not me.

[Aellex]

Refusing to shake someone's hand is a show of disrespect worthy of getting angry over, indeed.

Yeah, if they don't accept it and leave it at that. Fortunately dozens of other greetings exist.
And personally I wouldn't get angry from not getting a handshake. Confused and a small thought of "Well that's kinda rude", but not angry.

Shaking is the only form of formal greeting that is accepted tho. You ain't gonna do a check or "la bise" to your mayor.

I do would personally. Refusing a greeting is setting the tone for the rest of the conversation in a very bad fashion.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yeah, if they don't accept it and leave it at that. Fortunately dozens of other greetings exist.
And personally I wouldn't get angry from not getting a handshake. Confused and a small thought of "Well that's kinda rude", but not angry.

Shaking is the only form of formal greeting that is accepted tho.

No it's not.

You ain't gonna do a check or "la bise" to your mayor.

But you can do something else.

I do would personally. Refusing a greeting is setting the tone for the rest of the conversation in a very bad fashion.

Then calm down.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/greeting.htm
Formal greetings include saluting and bowing.

[Vassenor]

Yeah, if they don't accept it and leave it at that. Fortunately dozens of other greetings exist.
And personally I wouldn't get angry from not getting a handshake. Confused and a small thought of "Well that's kinda rude", but not angry.

Shaking is the only form of formal greeting that is accepted tho. You ain't gonna do a check or "la bise" to your mayor.

I do would personally. Refusing a greeting is setting the tone for the rest of the conversation in a very bad fashion.

So how is responding to an offered handshake with a different but obvious sign of respect refusing it?

[Aellex]

No it's not.

It is tho.

But you can do something else.

Nope you can't.

Then calm down.

Refusing an handshake is a slight and will be reacted by people as so.