Denmark Passes Law Requiring New Citizens Shake Hands

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Most people aren't going to pitch a fit if you respond to an offered handshake with a different but still obvious gesture of respect.

Like this

[Western Vale Confederacy]

"No u" is not a valid argument, please present me a more convincing point.

Neither was "Western country, Western etiquette" considering that there are dozens of different ways to greet people.

Also, I should've added more to my last point: national etiquette is not the same as religious etiquette. You can change the former, not the latter.

I think it is quite blatantly obvious that religious etiquette can also change, as evidenced by the existence of Reform Judaism.

Religions are not eternal and unchanging, they shift and change just like everything else.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Neither was "Western country, Western etiquette" considering that there are dozens of different ways to greet people.

Also, I should've added more to my last point: national etiquette is not the same as religious etiquette. You can change the former, not the latter.

I think it is quite blatantly obvious that religious etiquette can also change, as evidenced by the existence of Reform Judaism.

Religions are not eternal and unchanging, they shift and change just like everything else.

Ok then lemme rephrase:
National etiquette is not the same as Islamic etiquette. You can change the former, you cannot change the latter.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I think it is quite blatantly obvious that religious etiquette can also change, as evidenced by the existence of Reform Judaism.

Religions are not eternal and unchanging, they shift and change just like everything else.

Ok then lemme rephrase:
National etiquette is not the same as Islamic etiquette. You can change the former, you cannot change the latter.

Islamic etiquette is still religious etiquette, and thus my point still stands...

Religious etiquette can change.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Ok then lemme rephrase:
National etiquette is not the same as Islamic etiquette. You can change the former, you cannot change the latter.

Islamic etiquette is still religious etiquette, and thus my point still stands...

Religious etiquette can change.

You can't change Al-Islam, that's haram. And even if someone did, the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah still exist to call them out on their falsehood.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Islamic etiquette is still religious etiquette, and thus my point still stands...

Religious etiquette can change.

You can't change Al-Islam, that's haram. And even if someone did, the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah still exist to call them out on their falsehood.

The Jews did it, the Christians did it, and inevitably, it will occur to Islam too.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

You can't change Al-Islam, that's haram. And even if someone did, the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah still exist to call them out on their falsehood.

The Jews did it, the Christians did it, and inevitably, it will occur to Islam too.

No it won't. The Holy Qur'an doesn't change.

[Diopolis]

You can't change Al-Islam, that's haram. And even if someone did, the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah still exist to call them out on their falsehood.

The Jews did it, the Christians did it, and inevitably, it will occur to Islam too.

The Christians never banned men and women shaking hands.

[Alvecia]

The Jews did it, the Christians did it, and inevitably, it will occur to Islam too.

No it won't. The Holy Qur'an doesn't change.

It will eventually. It won't be an overt change, but it'll be "studied" and "interpreted".
Hell, that happens now.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

The Jews did it, the Christians did it, and inevitably, it will occur to Islam too.

The Christians never banned men and women shaking hands.

They did forbid the consumption of meat for nearly two thirds of the year, something which 99.5% of all Christians do not follow anymore.

[Diopolis]

The Christians never banned men and women shaking hands.

They did forbid the consumption of meat for nearly two thirds of the year, something which 99.5% of all Christians do not follow anymore.

A little less than half actually, in the case of Western Christians. Today it's something like a fifth of the year for the strictest.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

No it won't. The Holy Qur'an doesn't change.

It will eventually. It won't be an overt change, but it'll be "studied" and "interpreted".
Heck, that happens now.

That's not changing the Holy Qur'an.

[New Bremerton]

El Amin is precisely the kind of fundamentalist Muslim who shouldn't be allowed into Denmark or any other non-Muslim country. He has been brutally honest about his views on handshaking, his lack of respect for other cultures and faiths besides his own, the "inerrancy" and 'immutability" of his religion and Holy Book, his views on gender equality and LGBT rights, and his willingness to wage all-out war on anyone who challenges his religious views and customs in any way, so far on this thread.

If he was Richard Spencer, he would be rightly denounced as a fascist. If he was Jerry Falwell, he would be rightly denounced as a theocrat. It is just as well he has no intention of living in Denmark.

The fact that certain non-Muslims in the West are prepared to welcome people like him into their countries and grant them the right to vote as citizens despite this is something that I find truly baffling.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

El Amin is precisely the kind of fundamentalist Muslim

I'm not fundamentalist.

who shouldn't be allowed into Denmark or any other non-Muslim country.

Born and raised in the US of A

He has been brutally honest about his views on handshaking

Actually I haven't really said much about my views on it.

his lack of respect for other cultures and faiths besides his own

Prove it

the "inerrancy" and 'immutability" of his religion and Holy Book

True.

his views on gender equality

This thread has nothing to do with gender equality.

and LGBT rights

Yeah, you can go through my post history on that.

and his willingness to wage all-out war on anyone who challenges his religious views and customs in any way, so far on this thread.

Show me where is said that.

[Alvecia]

It will eventually. It won't be an overt change, but it'll be "studied" and "interpreted".
Heck, that happens now.

That's not changing the Holy Qur'an.

It is, just not conventionally.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

That's not changing the Holy Qur'an.

It is, just not conventionally.

No, it's not. A changing interpretation isn't changing the words. When I said "the Holy Qur'an can't be changed", that's what I'm taking about.

[Alvecia]

It is, just not conventionally.

No, it's not. A changing interpretation isn't changing the words. When I said "the Holy Qur'an can't be changed", that's what I'm taking about.

A changed interpretation is a changed verse, a changed meaning, even if the words remain. And any future translations will be actually changed, to fit the new interpretation.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

No, it's not. A changing interpretation isn't changing the words. When I said "the Holy Qur'an can't be changed", that's what I'm taking about.

A changed interpretation is a changed verse, a changed meaning, even if the words remain. And any future translations will be actually changed, to fit the new interpretation.

You're still not changing the Holy Qur'an.

[Vassenor]

El Amin is precisely the kind of fundamentalist Muslim who shouldn't be allowed into Denmark or any other non-Muslim country. He has been brutally honest about his views on handshaking, his lack of respect for other cultures and faiths besides his own, the "inerrancy" and 'immutability" of his religion and Holy Book, his views on gender equality and LGBT rights, and his willingness to wage all-out war on anyone who challenges his religious views and customs in any way, so far on this thread.

If he was Richard Spencer, he would be rightly denounced as a fascist. If he was Jerry Falwell, he would be rightly denounced as a theocrat. It is just as well he has no intention of living in Denmark.

The fact that certain non-Muslims in the West are prepared to welcome people like him into their countries and grant them the right to vote as citizens despite this is something that I find truly baffling.

I'd say the idea that people should only be allowed to vote if you personally approve of their views and opinions is pretty baffling too.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

If he was Jerry Falwell, he would be rightly denounced as a theocrat.

I call myself a theocrat. An Islamist to be precise. And I wear that proudly.

[Geneviev]

El Amin is precisely the kind of fundamentalist Muslim who shouldn't be allowed into Denmark or any other non-Muslim country. He has been brutally honest about his views on handshaking, his lack of respect for other cultures and faiths besides his own, the "inerrancy" and 'immutability" of his religion and Holy Book, his views on gender equality and LGBT rights, and his willingness to wage all-out war on anyone who challenges his religious views and customs in any way, so far on this thread.

If he was Richard Spencer, he would be rightly denounced as a fascist. If he was Jerry Falwell, he would be rightly denounced as a theocrat. It is just as well he has no intention of living in Denmark.

The fact that certain non-Muslims in the West are prepared to welcome people like him into their countries and grant them the right to vote as citizens despite this is something that I find truly baffling.

As a certain non-Muslim in the West, Amin is the kind of person I'd want in my country. Denmark is wrong to make it so difficult for Muslims to become citizens.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

El Amin is precisely the kind of fundamentalist Muslim who shouldn't be allowed into Denmark or any other non-Muslim country. He has been brutally honest about his views on handshaking, his lack of respect for other cultures and faiths besides his own, the "inerrancy" and 'immutability" of his religion and Holy Book, his views on gender equality and LGBT rights, and his willingness to wage all-out war on anyone who challenges his religious views and customs in any way, so far on this thread.

If he was Richard Spencer, he would be rightly denounced as a fascist. If he was Jerry Falwell, he would be rightly denounced as a theocrat. It is just as well he has no intention of living in Denmark.

The fact that certain non-Muslims in the West are prepared to welcome people like him into their countries and grant them the right to vote as citizens despite this is something that I find truly baffling.

As a certain non-Muslim in the West, Amin is the kind of person I'd want in my country. Denmark is wrong to make it so difficult for Muslims to become citizens.

Unfortunately I do not speak German. Thanks for the invitation though

[Aellex]

El Amin is precisely the kind of fundamentalist Muslim who shouldn't be allowed into Denmark or any other non-Muslim country. He has been brutally honest about his views on handshaking, his lack of respect for other cultures and faiths besides his own, the "inerrancy" and 'immutability" of his religion and Holy Book, his views on gender equality and LGBT rights, and his willingness to wage all-out war on anyone who challenges his religious views and customs in any way, so far on this thread.

If he was Richard Spencer, he would be rightly denounced as a fascist. If he was Jerry Falwell, he would be rightly denounced as a theocrat. It is just as well he has no intention of living in Denmark.

The fact that certain non-Muslims in the West are prepared to welcome people like him into their countries and grant them the right to vote as citizens despite this is something that I find truly baffling.

As a certain non-Muslim in the West, Amin is the kind of person I'd want in my country. Denmark is wrong to make it so difficult for Muslims to become citizens.

>requiring an handshake during the ceremony
>"""so difficult"""

[El-Amin Caliphate]

As a certain non-Muslim in the West, Amin is the kind of person I'd want in my country. Denmark is wrong to make it so difficult for Muslims to become citizens.

>requiring an handshake during the ceremony
>"""so difficult"""

For Muslims who believe it's a sin, yes, it would be difficult.

[Vassenor]

As a certain non-Muslim in the West, Amin is the kind of person I'd want in my country. Denmark is wrong to make it so difficult for Muslims to become citizens.

>requiring an handshake during the ceremony
>"""so difficult"""

>allowing successful applicants to show respect during the ceremony in other ways
>"""so difficult"""