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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:12 am

Jolthig wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Handshaking is not immodest.

It's a form of physical contact. Yes, it may be brief, and yes, it conveys to both parties on whom the person they're shaking hands with is. But since shaking hands also requires a lot of eye contact, this goes against the principles of Islamic modesty to always be on one's guard.

While one may have enough restraint in most cases to not act on their desires, however, in their minds, they may think sexual things about that person of the opposite sex. Islam also strives to eliminate impure thoughts as one must be pure in all aspects - mind, soul, and physical body.

Islamic modesty is fucking stupid.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:12 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Izaakia wrote:

Oh, I though you meant "relations" as in non-romantic. Yes, those are haram. Being with the opposite sex is mostly haram unless it's with good intentions, and even then there are parameters.

Good intentions such as if you have to talk to them about something important like a job interview or cashier or if they're your boss or supervisor. Or you can hang with the opposite gender so as long as a family member is accompanying them.

But outside of those, there is no reason in islam.
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Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:13 am

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Kaggeceria wrote:Sure, but if you work or go to school or pretty much leave the house at any point then you will end spending time with women. Coworkers, classmates, friends, friends of friends, etc.

It's kind of hard to avoid. Its must more beneficial to simply learn some level of self-control.

People can't be prevented from developing thoughts, they just learn to live with them, but it is better for them not to develop in the first place.

I find it better to socialize and learn self-control then to shut oneself away.

You're a former incel. You should know better than anyone else that avoiding socialization is bad.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:13 am

Kaggeceria wrote:
Jolthig wrote:It's a form of physical contact. Yes, it may be brief, and yes, it conveys to both parties on whom the person they're shaking hands with is. But since shaking hands also requires a lot of eye contact, this goes against the principles of Islamic modesty to always be on one's guard.

While one may have enough restraint in most cases to not act on their desires, however, in their minds, they may think sexual things about that person of the opposite sex. Islam also strives to eliminate impure thoughts as one must be pure in all aspects - mind, soul, and physical body.

Islamic modesty is fucking stupid.

Not to me or Amin or even our Christian friend, Muscovite.

And we think the same of Denmarks law.
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Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:14 am

Jolthig wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Islamic modesty is fucking stupid.

Not to me or Amin or even our Christian friend, Muscovite.

And we think the same of Denmarks law.

I don't particularly care.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:14 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Well if it's haram then you shouldn't be disobeying the commands of Shari'ah. Also, when a large amount of something is haram, even a small amount is forbidden.

And this is why Sharia is incompatable with Western culture

I don't care.
Kaggeceria wrote:and should be outlawed.

No it shouldn't.

Anyways, I gotta go. Assalamu 'Alaikum wa RaHmatullahi wa Barakatuhu. May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah SWT be upon you.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:15 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:And this is why Sharia is incompatable with Western culture

I don't care.
Kaggeceria wrote:and should be outlawed.

No it shouldn't.

Anyways, I gotta go. Assalamu 'Alaikum wa RaHmatullahi wa Barakatuhu. May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah SWT be upon you.

Allah is not merciful.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:15 am

Kaggeceria wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Not to me or Amin or even our Christian friend, Muscovite.

And we think the same of Denmarks law.

I don't particular care.

Okay then.
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“Und Mirza”

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Postby Izaakia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:16 am

Btw, merry Christmas everyone.
XOXOX (if hugs and kisses are allowed)
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:16 am

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I don't care.

No it shouldn't.

Anyways, I gotta go. Assalamu 'Alaikum wa RaHmatullahi wa Barakatuhu. May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah SWT be upon you.

Allah is not merciful.

I mean, you coulda just said "And upon you too" or something similar, but ok.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:17 am

Kaggeceria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I don't care.

No it shouldn't.

Anyways, I gotta go. Assalamu 'Alaikum wa RaHmatullahi wa Barakatuhu. May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah SWT be upon you.

Allah is not merciful.

Now you're just ridiculing.

I will also say peace as there is no profit for both of us to continue to indulge in this useless discussion between us.

Have a good day, man, and I'll see you in another discussion at some other time or so. No hard feelings.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:17 am

Izaakia wrote:Btw, merry Christmas everyone.
XOXOX (if hugs and kisses are allowed)

*salutes *

Happy holidays
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:17 am

Izaakia wrote:Btw, merry Christmas everyone.
XOXOX (if hugs and kisses are allowed)

Happy Holidays
XOXOXOX
(Also, if handshaking is haram, then obvs those would be haram as well)
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Postby Izaakia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:21 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Izaakia wrote:Btw, merry Christmas everyone.
XOXOX (if hugs and kisses are allowed)

Happy Holidays
XOXOXOX
(Also, if handshaking is haram, then obvs those would be haram as well)

Hehe, I know, was just messing with yah.

Btw, do you guys have like a Muslim Christmas kinda thing? Like the Jewish have hannukah.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:21 am

Izaakia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Happy Holidays
XOXOXOX
(Also, if handshaking is haram, then obvs those would be haram as well)

Hehe, I know, was just messing with yah.

Btw, do you guys have like a Muslim Christmas kinda thing? Like the Jewish have hannukah.

Eid.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:22 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Allah is not merciful.

I mean, you coulda just said "And upon you too" or something similar, but ok.

I liked my response better.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:23 am

Jolthig wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:Allah is not merciful.

Now you're just ridiculing.

I will also say peace as there is no profit for both of us to continue to indulge in this useless discussion between us.

Have a good day, man, and I'll see you in another discussion at some other time or so. No hard feelings.

You too.
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Postby Izaakia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:26 am

Jolthig wrote:
Izaakia wrote:Hehe, I know, was just messing with yah.

Btw, do you guys have like a Muslim Christmas kinda thing? Like the Jewish have hannukah.

Eid.


I suppose winter solstice isn’t really a big thing so far south where most Muslims are from.

Anyway, have a good day everyone.
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:26 am

Izaakia wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Eid.


I suppose winter solstice isn’t really a big thing so far south where most Muslims are from.

Anyway, have a good day everyone.

You too.

You can check out the links in my sig as well for more info on islam.
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Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

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Postby Abyssal Shipyard » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:34 am

Just kick them out and have them go back to their countries. That way muslims get to live how they want and Danes get to live how they want. Homogeneous communities are the way to go since they form naturally amongst groups of people. Trying to force some stupid "melting pot" idea is why we have the shitshow we have now.

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Postby The Grims » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:37 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Izaakia wrote:Btw, merry Christmas everyone.
XOXOX (if hugs and kisses are allowed)

Happy Holidays
XOXOXOX
(Also, if handshaking is haram, then obvs those would be haram as well)

But one sees muslims kissing all the time ?
Male - male at least.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:39 am

The Grims wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Happy Holidays
XOXOXOX
(Also, if handshaking is haram, then obvs those would be haram as well)

But one sees muslims kissing all the time ?
Male - male at least.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure kissing the opposite sex is haram.
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Postby The Grims » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:42 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Grims wrote:But one sees muslims kissing all the time ?
Male - male at least.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure kissing the opposite sex is haram.

Why not male- male then ? Seems vastly more sexual than a handshake.

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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:47 am

The Grims wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure kissing the opposite sex is haram.

Why not male- male then ? Seems vastly more sexual than a handshake.

In Arab culture, there's a lot of affection shown when two people embrace one another. It's not romantic, but purely platonic. The Spanish also do this, taking it from the Umayyads.
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“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:51 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Izaakia wrote:If shaking a heads with a woman is bad because it can lead to impure thoughts, then logically, isn’t shaking hands with men a gateway to homosexuality?

Eh, not really.
Homosexual acts are haram in the 1st place so it doesn't really matter if they hold hands or not. But if that risk is a thing then the man/woman shouldn't shake hands with the same sex either.

So if unmarried sex is also haram, then what is wrong with shaking hands in all other cases?

Not sure what else there is with a married woman twice your age holding public office shaking your hand in the official capacity of affirming citizenship.
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