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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:47 pm

Markix wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Danish government: "HOLD ON A MINUTE SIR."

Muslim: "What?"

DG: "It's a custom here in Denmark... that upon the completion of the naturalisation ceremony the two parties... SHAKE HANDS (smiles maliciously). Its a gesture of goodwill."

M: "Well I'm not originally from Denmark-"

DG: "BUT YOU ARE... becoming a Citizen here (nods*). I'm afraid I shall have to insist."

M: "Insist? On what? That I shake your hand? Well then I'm afraid I must insist in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION."

DG: "You know what I think you are?"

M: "What you think I am? I would not presume to know."

DG: "... Well it doesn't matter. Because here in Denmark, if you don't shake hands, it doesn't count. Even after all that swearing in and paperwork and ceremony and everything... it don't mean SPIT. If YOU don't shake MY hand."

M: "So if I don't shake your hand, you'll just deport me? I don't think so."

DG: "Officers. If this man tries to leave right now arrest him."

M: "... ... You REALLY want me to shake your hand?"

DG: "I INSIST."

M: "Well if you insist..."

(starts war between the two communities)

...

^

basically, not the greatest idea from Denmark

Good for Denmark,most of the Muslim immigrants are lazy anyway and just want free money from Western countries.


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Postby Aellex » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:49 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:That's Quebec, who are effectively the Catalonia of Canada (i.e. constantly yelling they'll secede, but never actually doing so)...oh, and the independence movement is dying, with the autonomist movement becoming more prominent now.

I know it because I bloody live there.

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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:51 pm

Aellex wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:That's Quebec, who are effectively the Catalonia of Canada (i.e. constantly yelling they'll secede, but never actually doing so)...oh, and the independence movement is dying, with the autonomist movement becoming more prominent now.

I know it because I bloody live there.

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The Québec is still part of Canada is something that went by an hair's width tbf but yes, they've been going full autonomist for the last 20 or so years.
Not that it's going much against the point I was making.

Well, Vancouver is my evidence. I recall from a book I partially read a couple years ago. :p
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:56 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Aellex wrote:Being on the constant brink of secession ?


That's Quebec, who are effectively the Catalonia of Canada (i.e. constantly yelling they'll secede, but never actually doing so)...oh, and the independence movement is dying, with the autonomist movement becoming more prominent now.

I know it because I bloody live there.

So they basically want to be independent without having to pay for it?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:01 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
That's Quebec, who are effectively the Catalonia of Canada (i.e. constantly yelling they'll secede, but never actually doing so)...oh, and the independence movement is dying, with the autonomist movement becoming more prominent now.

I know it because I bloody live there.

So they basically want to be independent without having to pay for it?


That was literally the plan, I'm not even kidding.

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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:02 pm

Markix wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Danish government: "HOLD ON A MINUTE SIR."

Muslim: "What?"

DG: "It's a custom here in Denmark... that upon the completion of the naturalisation ceremony the two parties... SHAKE HANDS (smiles maliciously). Its a gesture of goodwill."

M: "Well I'm not originally from Denmark-"

DG: "BUT YOU ARE... becoming a Citizen here (nods*). I'm afraid I shall have to insist."

M: "Insist? On what? That I shake your hand? Well then I'm afraid I must insist in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION."

DG: "You know what I think you are?"

M: "What you think I am? I would not presume to know."

DG: "... Well it doesn't matter. Because here in Denmark, if you don't shake hands, it doesn't count. Even after all that swearing in and paperwork and ceremony and everything... it don't mean SPIT. If YOU don't shake MY hand."

M: "So if I don't shake your hand, you'll just deport me? I don't think so."

DG: "Officers. If this man tries to leave right now arrest him."

M: "... ... You REALLY want me to shake your hand?"

DG: "I INSIST."

M: "Well if you insist..."

(starts war between the two communities)

...

^

basically, not the greatest idea from Denmark

Good for Denmark,most of the Muslim immigrants are lazy anyway and just want free money from Western countries.

And you are hardworking, industrious, and have 9000 children, right?
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Postby Aellex » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:02 pm

Jolthig wrote:Well, Vancouver is my evidence. I recall from a book I partially read a couple years ago. :p

I'm ready to believe it can work well on the small scale but that kind of things usually don't go nearly as good on bigger one as history has proven.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:04 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Diopolis wrote:So they basically want to be independent without having to pay for it?


That was literally the plan, I'm not even kidding.

How is there any opposition from inside Quebec to this idea?
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Postby Olthar » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:23 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Olthar wrote:I never said that was the case?


Then it sounds like you're saying nothing at all.

Did you read my explanations for why some Muslims believe it to be haram? Here they are again:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Ok, just making sure.

Another thing about this is that it's not always whether there would be impure thoughts or arousal from shaking hands. As that Hadith says (I'm paraphrasing): "if a large amount of something is haram, then even a small part is haram.". There's also this ayah in the Holy Qur'an and this Hadith. Personally, I think that that Hadith has the best evidence condemning shaking hands with the opposite sex - that is, if you take the word "touch" to mean "any touching whatsoever".

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:The best reasoning I can come up with is because:
1: It's to cut off as much possible ways to sin as possible (if a large amount of something is haram, the small amount becomes haram as well)
2: It's the Sunnah of Rasulullah SAWS

Of course, there are many articles made by and videos of Muslim Islamic scholars that can explain it better than me.

For anyone who wants to know why hand shaking the might be haram, google "shaking hands with the opposite sex in Islam".

Yes, but when I tried to analyze what that said based on the meanings and contexts of the words contained within, you said I was wrong. So, either this statement uses made up linguistics (making it impossible for me to decipher), or it means nothing. I decided to be generous and assume you have enough intellectual integrity for it to be the second.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:30 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
That was literally the plan, I'm not even kidding.

How is there any opposition from inside Quebec to this idea?


Well, according to the 1995 Quebec referendum (the second and last referendum about whether Québec should become a sovereign country or not), the "No" (anti-independence) side won with 50.60% while the "Yes" (pro-independence) side trailed behind at 49.40%.

That was a difference of less than 55,000 votes.

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Postby Audioslavia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:31 pm

Markix wrote:Good for Denmark,most of the Muslim immigrants are lazy anyway and just want free money from Western countries.


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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:37 pm

Olthar wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Did you read my explanations for why some Muslims believe it to be haram? Here they are again:


For anyone who wants to know why hand shaking the might be haram, google "shaking hands with the opposite sex in Islam".

Yes, but when I tried to analyze what that said based on the meanings and contexts of the words contained within, you said I was wrong. So, either this statement uses made up linguistics (making it impossible for me to decipher), or it means nothing. I decided to be generous and assume you have enough intellectual integrity for it to be the second.

You asked if shaking hands was a threat, which no one said, and then cut out everything in my explanation except "if a large amount of something is haram then the small amount is haram as well" and made an exaggerated comparison question from that.

Please reread all of my explanation. If you still don't understand here are some links where Muslim Islamic scholars explain it:
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:05 pm

I can understand it. Handshaking is a fairly important part of western culture. I just think drawing the line here seems arbitrary.

More important things like trust in democracy and believing in equality of races and genders I think would be a more important cultural screening.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:06 pm

Denmare is a place ducking handshakes hahaha


Sorry, denmarks decision is stupid, so is 'm it shaking hands because if muhammad
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:14 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Denmare is a place ducking handshakes hahaha


Sorry, denmarks decision is stupid, so is 'm it shaking hands because if muhammad


It truly is a miracle if Muhammad's followers somehow managed to document him saying "lol handshakes bad".

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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:16 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Denmare is a place ducking handshakes hahaha


Sorry, denmarks decision is stupid, so is 'm it shaking hands because if muhammad


It truly is a miracle if Muhammad's followers somehow managed to document him saying "lol handshakes bad".

Well there's literally a science of hadith behind that lol
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Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Denmare is a place ducking handshakes hahaha


Sorry, denmarks decision is stupid, so is 'm it shaking hands because if muhammad


It truly is a miracle if Muhammad's followers somehow managed to document him saying "lol handshakes bad".

No one knows what he intended with technology handshakes okay
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:17 pm

Should not be doing this as mods will get mad tho it Christmas

I was still on topic, I said Muslim Denmark and Muhammad. You can't warn me, arch is cool cuz e knows history
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Postby Jolthig » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:40 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Should not be doing this as mods will get mad tho it Christmas

I was still on topic, I said Muslim Denmark and Muhammad. You can't warn me, arch is cool cuz e knows history

You ok, Hus? Lol
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:06 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Denmare is a place ducking handshakes hahaha


Sorry, denmarks decision is stupid, so is 'm it shaking hands because if muhammad


It truly is a miracle if Muhammad's followers somehow managed to document him saying "lol handshakes bad".

He didn't say it like that. There is a Hadith about him saying that being stabbed in the head with an iron needle is better than touching the hand of a non-mahram. It's authenticity is debsted, however. There's also another Hadith which states that the adultery of the hands is touch. The grade of that Hadith is Hasan-Sahih.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:23 pm

The phrase "adultery of the hands" is arguably the single most retarded thing I've read this month lol
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:23 pm

San Carlos Islands wrote:They should just ban all Muslims tbh.

Ah bit silly no? Especially considering there are several Muslim sects that are great at integration and are less radical
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:The phrase "adultery of the hands" is arguably the single most retarded thing I've read this month lol

“Me and a guy did naughty things”

“Oh what did you do?”

“We touched hands”
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