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Postby Thyrgga » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:42 pm

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There's hardly a difference.

Did you even read the links?


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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:42 pm

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So where is this myth about Muslims trying to colonise Europe coming from?


I do believe Gaddafi said something along the lines of Europe becoming a Muslim continent without firing a shot, and that europe should either accept Islam or declare war on it.

Whether you take Gaddafi as a reliable source I’ll leave to you.


Gaddafi was pretty reliably off his trolley, yes.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:43 pm

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Estanglia wrote:Likely far-right fearmongering, painting all immigrants as evil due to the actions of a few.


The immigrants aren't evil; people will naturally do this given the opportunity. Consider how Polish lands were colonized by German settlers over many centuries during the late middle ages.

Colonized or immigrated?
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So where is this myth about Muslims trying to colonise Europe coming from?


I do believe Gaddafi said something along the lines of Europe becoming a Muslim continent without firing a shot, and that europe should either accept Islam or declare war on it.

Whether you take Gaddafi as a reliable source I’ll leave to you.

I saw that quote as well.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:44 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Did you even read the links?


Wikipedia is the god of knowledge. If you disagree with its definitions, you're wrong.

Answer the question please.
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Postby Izaakia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:44 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Thyrgga wrote:
The immigrants aren't evil; people will naturally do this given the opportunity. Consider how Polish lands were colonized by German settlers over many centuries during the late middle ages.

Colonized or immigrated?
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I do believe Gaddafi said something along the lines of Europe becoming a Muslim continent without firing a shot, and that europe should either accept Islam or declare war on it.

Whether you take Gaddafi as a reliable source I’ll leave to you.

I saw that quote as well.


Well you can see the concern isn’t entirely unfounded, especially since Muslim nations seem to be somewhat sucepable to authoritarian regimes.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:45 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Izaakia wrote:
I do believe Gaddafi said something along the lines of Europe becoming a Muslim continent without firing a shot, and that europe should either accept Islam or declare war on it.

Whether you take Gaddafi as a reliable source I’ll leave to you.


Gaddafi was pretty reliably off his trolley, yes.


He really wasn't. He knew mass migration to Europe was going to happen and tried to blackmail the EU into paying him to stop it.
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Izaakia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Colonized or immigrated?

I saw that quote as well.


Well you can see the concern isn’t entirely unfounded, especially since Muslim nations seem to be somewhat sucepable to authoritarian regimes.

Concern of what? What are you talking about?
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Postby Thyrgga » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:48 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
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The immigrants aren't evil; people will naturally do this given the opportunity. Consider how Polish lands were colonized by German settlers over many centuries during the late middle ages.

Colonized or immigrated?


What's the difference? Germans physically put themselves in these lands and established German communities there. What I want to get across is that the lands became ethnic German and eventually were annexed by German states. You can decide on the morality of that, but that's what happened.

If Denmark sees this process occurring in its own case and wants to maintain its Danishness, the way to do that is to consider all the foreign ethnicities guests and not allow them to settle down permanently. After all, it would benefit the middle east if these people would return home and rebuild their countries and hopefully the US government will stop wasting taxpayers' money in pointless wars over there.

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Postby Thyrgga » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:50 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Izaakia wrote:
Well you can see the concern isn’t entirely unfounded, especially since Muslim nations seem to be somewhat sucepable to authoritarian regimes.

Concern of what? What are you talking about?


"Authoritarian regimes"... whatever. Muslim nations can run themselves however they like. Ideally, they should be left alone to decide their own destinies and form governments that work the best for their respective peoples, regardless of whether those look similar to western governments.

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Postby Izaakia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Izaakia wrote:
Well you can see the concern isn’t entirely unfounded, especially since Muslim nations seem to be somewhat sucepable to authoritarian regimes.

Concern of what? What are you talking about?


Basically we would like to remain outside the influence of Islamic law, and a large population of Muslims can use the democratic system to manoeuvre the law towards sharia.
A problem easily solved by maintaining sustainable rates of migration.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:52 pm

Thyrgga wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Colonized or immigrated?


What's the difference? Germans physically put themselves in these lands and established German communities there. What I want to get across is that the lands became ethnic German and eventually were annexed by German states. You can decide on the morality of that, but that's what happened.

Did German military forces annex Polish land or did German people just decide to come into Poland? That's what I'm asking.
Thyrgga wrote:If Denmark sees this process occurring in its own case and wants to maintain its Danishness, the way to do that is to consider all the foreign ethnicities guests and not allow them to settle down permanently. After all, it would benefit the middle east if these people would return home and rebuild their countries and hopefully the US government will stop wasting taxpayers' money in pointless wars over there.

True, but if mass immigration didn't work one way, it's not gonna work the other way. And I'm only agreeing with the "they could back to rebuild their countries" for the sake of rebuilding their home, I don't care about Denmark being Danish or not.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:53 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Did German military forces annex Polish land or did German people just decide to come into Poland? That's what I'm asking.


The latter and then the former on the basis that Germans lived there.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:55 pm

Izaakia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Concern of what? What are you talking about?


Basically we would like to remain outside the influence of Islamic law, and a large population of Muslims can use the democratic system to manoeuvre the law towards sharia.
A problem

What you just described isn't a problem.
Izaakia wrote:easily solved by maintaining sustainable rates of migration.

I take it we have different meaning of what "sustainable" enaltails. For me, it's "A country should let in as many immigrants and refugees as financially possible".
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Postby Thyrgga » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:55 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Did German military forces annex Polish land or did German people just decide to come into Poland? That's what I'm asking.


The latter and then the former on the basis that Germans lived there.


The Poles also invited the Knights.

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A handshake is one of the least arousing/erotic actions you can do with someone.

I dunno. There are some less arousing ones. Like filing taxes, shopping for furniture, and pretending to care about tile.
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Postby Estanglia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:57 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Izaakia wrote:
Basically we would like to remain outside the influence of Islamic law, and a large population of Muslims can use the democratic system to manoeuvre the law towards sharia.
A problem

What you just described isn't a problem.

To you.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:59 pm

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Thyrgga wrote:
There's hardly a difference.


This^

When the immigrating group is so wildly out of touch with the cultural standards of the place they're heading to and refuse to assimilate it starts to become apt to use colonization instead.

>How Texas became its own country.
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Postby Izaakia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:00 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Izaakia wrote:
Basically we would like to remain outside the influence of Islamic law, and a large population of Muslims can use the democratic system to manoeuvre the law towards sharia.
A problem

What you just described isn't a problem.
Izaakia wrote:easily solved by maintaining sustainable rates of migration.

I take it we have different meaning of what "sustainable" enaltails. For me, it's "A country should let in as many immigrants and refugees as financially possible".


It isn’t for you.

Sustainable should always be about the receiving nation, their infrastructure, economics, and culture, population density.

We have no responsibility to accept anyone we don’t want just because their homecountries aren’t as good as our green and pleasant land.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:01 pm

Diopolis wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:If your big hubaloo about shaking someones hand is you might get impure thoughts about it or aroused you are just fucking hopeless imo

A handshake is one of the least arousing/erotic actions you can do with someone.

I dunno. There are some less arousing ones. Like filing taxes, shopping for furniture, and pretending to care about tile.

Shopping for tables can get fucking wild tho
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Postby Thyrgga » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:02 pm

Estanglia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What you just described isn't a problem.

To you.


How would you feel if a large number of ethnic Danes/Germans/English/etc... decided to move to some Arab state like Syria and change the government to one that suits them? What if the government invited them in under some other pretenses?

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Postby Diopolis » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:03 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Diopolis wrote:I dunno. There are some less arousing ones. Like filing taxes, shopping for furniture, and pretending to care about tile.

Shopping for tables can get fucking wild tho

It is an opportunity for engaged couples to show their pain tolerance to one another.
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Postby Thyrgga » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:03 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This^

When the immigrating group is so wildly out of touch with the cultural standards of the place they're heading to and refuse to assimilate it starts to become apt to use colonization instead.

>How Texas became its own country.


This is another good example of how immigration and colonization aren't much different. Interestingly, it happened on a much faster timescale than the medieval Ostsiedlung.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:04 pm

Thyrgga wrote:
Estanglia wrote:To you.


How would you feel if a large number of ethnic Danes/Germans/English/etc... decided to move to some Arab state like Syria and change the government to one that suits them? What if the government invited them in under some other pretenses?

As long as they didn't force their kufr governments on us idc. As long as an Islamic government is in place in the Ummah I'm fine.

Also, Thrygga, in case you don't know, I'm a natural-born citizen of the United States.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:05 pm

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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:10 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Religious governments can fuck off and die in the past like they belong

They become much too fervent against a certain group of people.
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