Denmark Passes Law Requiring New Citizens Shake Hands

[The Alma Mater]

As if the euro-centric view of civiliziation is not wrong. Because it is the correct view. The civilization that conquered the world. The most advanced civilization too. Why should'nt the european civilization be considered THE waypoint for civilization.

Ah yes, the MIGHT MAKES RIGHT view of anthropology.

Otherwise known as "we're superior because we said so".

Well, if you want we can also compare how civilisations or populationgroups have benefitted mankind. Who invented the most useful things ? Who created the things that made life more fun ? Who developed the most medicines etc.

And then the Jews win Especially if we go per capita.

[Frievolk]

No. All that legislation tells me is whether or not a person is willing to compromise their prior culture/beliefs even so little as to merely pretend they can act like a civilized human being for 15 minutes.
If they can't, and if they openly protest against being civilized for only 15 minutes, after which they can do fuck-all for the rest of their stay in their new home, then that tells me "these people shouldn't be allowed near the people of my country."

Cute. Real fucking cute.

To refuse following local protocols where you're planning on living for the rest of your life is to lack the minimum of civility. Yes. I'm surprised you'd find it cute.

[Aellex]

It’s not false. That’s a reality for the overwhelming majority of people in the West.

I really doubt this.

Maybe you are just anti social.

Since when was shaking hands a marker for how social someone is?

Tbf, I don't think I've shook girls' hands much as it's something you do between men but here we do "la bise" to girls instead which you'd probably have even more issue with.

It's a pretty good indicator of sociability tbh because that's the first thing you're supposed to do everyday when you meet with a friend.

[Esternial]

On face value my opinion is not in favor of this law, but on the same hand we tend to be expected to adhere to certain cultural customs in other countries.

Especially Arab countries have some shit laws to force everyone to adhere to their customs.

[Aclion]

An important point: this is part of the process of becoming a citizen, not just immigrating. So we're not talking about a person saying "Hi i'd like to live in your country" but "Hi i'd like to join your nation". Given that, yes it is reasonable to expect them to adapt to the nations practices, not expect the nation to change to suit them.

[Rhonom]

This insistence some people have on forcing the anglo-centric view of what constitutes civilisation is getting pretty old.

As if the euro-centric view of civiliziation is not wrong. Because it is the correct view. The civilization that conquered the world. The most advanced civilization too. Why should'nt the european civilization be considered THE waypoint for civilization.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

This insistence some people have on forcing the anglo-centric view of what constitutes civilisation is getting pretty old.

Who is doing that ? I am certain that people who believe muslims should shake hands in Denmark if Danes consider that polite would also insist that a Dane in Saudi Arabia will not have a beer and pork BBQ during Ramadan/ insist that women remove their burkhas "because polite people show their faces when talking".

Local customs. Respect them

A Dane in Saudi should be able to that.

[Hrythingland]

Cute. Real fucking cute.

This insistence some people have on forcing the anglo-centric view of what constitutes civilisation is getting pretty old.

I have an anglo-centric view of the world because I am english. And I will have that view especially when it comes to people in my own country from elsewhere.

[Frievolk]

This insistence some people have on forcing the anglo-centric view of what constitutes civilisation is getting pretty old.

I have an anglo-centric view of the world because I am english. And I will have that view especially when it comes to people in my own country from elsewhere.

Yeah, but in this scenario, your Anglo-centric tendencies have to be removed from the equation. The topic of debate is Culture in Denmark, a non-Anglosphere country, which means your culture is irrelevant.

[Izaakia]

I have an anglo-centric view of the world because I am english. And I will have that view especially when it comes to people in my own country from elsewhere.

Yeah, but in this scenario, your Anglo-centric tendencies have to be removed from the equation. The topic of debate is Culture in Denmark, a non-Anglosphere country, which means your culture is irrelevant.

Dunno, Denmark is pretty similar to England, I mean, I live the danelaw part of England.

[Genivaria]

As if the euro-centric view of civiliziation is not wrong. Because it is the correct view. The civilization that conquered the world. The most advanced civilization too. Why should'nt the european civilization be considered THE waypoint for civilization.

Ugh, the very phrase 'the european civilization' makes the history buff in me vomit.
There's no such thing and has never been as 'the european civilization'.

[Jolthig]

Ugh, the very phrase 'the european civilization' makes the history buff in me vomit.
There's no such thing and has never been as 'the european civilization'.

True, you're correct. How about modern western civilization?

[Deamonopolis]

Ugh, the very phrase 'the european civilization' makes the history buff in me vomit.
There's no such thing and has never been as 'the european civilization'.

So the Enlightenment was, in addition to a European phenomenon, something African, or Polynesian? From my history 101 classes (which I followed with rather lacklustre interest) I do remember that the Enlightenment was a predominantly European event. As in, wholly European in terms of beginning at least.

[Jolthig]

Ugh, the very phrase 'the european civilization' makes the history buff in me vomit.
There's no such thing and has never been as 'the european civilization'.

So the Enlightenment was, in addition to a European phenomenon, something African, or Polynesian? From my history 101 classes (which I followed with rather lacklustre interest) I do remember that the Enlightenment was a predominantly European event. As in, wholly European in terms of beginning at least.

Which in turn came from inspiration from Greek philosophy.

[Genivaria]

Ugh, the very phrase 'the european civilization' makes the history buff in me vomit.
There's no such thing and has never been as 'the european civilization'.

So the Enlightenment was, in addition to a European phenomenon, something African, or Polynesian? From my history 101 classes (which I followed with rather lacklustre interest) I do remember that the Enlightenment was a predominantly European event. As in, wholly European in terms of beginning at least.

None of what you just said is relevant to what I said.

[Genivaria]

Ugh, the very phrase 'the european civilization' makes the history buff in me vomit.
There's no such thing and has never been as 'the european civilization'.

True, you're correct. How about modern western civilization?

An obvious euphemism for America.

[Izaakia]

Yall just being pedantic, you all belong to the english civilisation.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yall just being pedantic, you all belong to the english civilisation.

Nah I'm good fam

[Genivaria]

Yall just being pedantic, you all belong to the english civilisation.

That sir is a contradiction in terms.
Drinking tea instead of coffee, savages.

[Jolthig]

True, you're correct. How about modern western civilization?

An obvious euphemism for America.

Sure. I actually got several works by our founding fathers yesterday here in philly lol

[Novus America]

Who is doing that ? I am certain that people who believe muslims should shake hands in Denmark if Danes consider that polite would also insist that a Dane in Saudi Arabia will not have a beer and pork BBQ during Ramadan/ insist that women remove their burkhas "because polite people show their faces when talking".

Local customs. Respect them

A Dsne in Saudi should be able to that.

If they want to become a Saudi citizen they should follow Saudi naturalization law.
Though unless you are a Male Gulf Arab (women citizens are second class at best) it is nearly impossible (Gulf Arab States tend to be pretty much Apartheid).

The solution is of course to simply have zero desire to be a Saudi.
If you reject their societal beliefs, why would you want to be a citizen anyways?

[Hrythingland]

I have an anglo-centric view of the world because I am english. And I will have that view especially when it comes to people in my own country from elsewhere.

Yeah, but in this scenario, your Anglo-centric tendencies have to be removed from the equation. The topic of debate is Culture in Denmark, a non-Anglosphere country, which means your culture is irrelevant.

But the particular topic is serving as a point of discussion for the wider European approach to such things.

[Frievolk]

A Dsne in Saudi should be able to that.

If they want to become a Saudi citizen they should follow Saudi naturalization law.
Though unless you are a Male Gulf Arab (women citizens are second class at best) it is nearly impossible (Gulf Arab States tend to be pretty much Apartheid).

The solution is of course to simply have zero desire to be a Saudi.
If you reject their societal beliefs, why would you want to be a citizen anyways?

Relatively good state of life (if you ignore the desert, stupid ass religion, and lack of political rights I guess) if you're a guy?
Idk

[Frievolk]

Yeah, but in this scenario, your Anglo-centric tendencies have to be removed from the equation. The topic of debate is Culture in Denmark, a non-Anglosphere country, which means your culture is irrelevant.

But the particular topic is serving as a point of discussion for the wider European approach to such things.

Sure, in case of the wider European approach, one can argue that "shaking hands is basic civility in my country. IF you wanna become a citizen in my country, you've gotta be able to shake hands at least once when you're becoming a citizen", but there exist countries -even in Europe, I think?- where shaking hands isn't the primary method of greeting so idk,

[Izaakia]

Yall just being pedantic, you all belong to the english civilisation.

Nah I'm good fam

He says using our language.