by Shrillland » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:39 am
by Freezic Vast » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:46 am
by Purpelia » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:47 am
by Shrillland » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:37 am
Purpelia wrote:Genuine question. Is there actually enough people here from ES that this topic warrants discussion? I mean, the rest of us don't really get a say in how they vote (nor should we) and have no reason to care about it either.
by Shrillland » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:37 am
Freezic Vast wrote:Because of the severe lack of detail, I'm inclined to say Juan Carlos.
by Page » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:54 am
by Freezic Vast » Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:02 am
by Shrillland » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:04 pm
Page wrote:I generally hope for leftists to win elections, but I don't really know anything about politics in El Salvador so I don't have strong feelings about this either way. More important than the leftist winning is that the far-right loses, far too many countries have fallen to the authoritarian right in recent years.
by The New California Republic » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:46 pm
Purpelia wrote:Genuine question. Is there actually enough people here from ES that this topic warrants discussion? I mean, the rest of us don't really get a say in how they vote (nor should we) and have no reason to care about it either.
by Shrillland » Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:40 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Purpelia wrote:Genuine question. Is there actually enough people here from ES that this topic warrants discussion? I mean, the rest of us don't really get a say in how they vote (nor should we) and have no reason to care about it either.
I mean, there have been discussion threads about elections in various Latin American countries, and it is debatable whether there are enough people on NationStates from said countries to warrant many of the threads, but perhaps elections in El Salvador might merit more interest because of its relatively turbulent history?
by Shrillland » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:25 pm
by Diopolis » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:38 pm
by Shrillland » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:41 pm
Diopolis wrote:Juan Carlos could be a lot better, but he seems like he has a decent head on his shoulders. I don't trust left wingers and the others simply don't have enough information to make up my mind.
by Diopolis » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:22 pm
by Shrillland » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:50 am
Diopolis wrote:I've managed to skim the FMLN platform. There's some notes below. I did not read the whole thing, and I think there's a lot of El Salvador/Latin America specific context I missed, but it should at least help for those who don't know any Spanish. My main take away was that they're probably more similar to ARENA than they are different, but with left wing flavoring.Anyway, on the FMLN platform:
-It starts with the phrasing, no joke, "You have in your hands a platform of government for the next five years."(paraphrased) I doubt they're real communists, but it's interesting to note.
-Their economic platform promises 385,000 new jobs over five years through government investment. Beyond that, it's kind of vague- they want a higher minimum wage, favor equal pay for men and women, and have a vague plan to provide educational opportunities. They're also in favor of robust consumer protections. They specifically call out wanting a strong tourism sector. A lot of their economics is highly similar to what Juan Carlos is promising- a system of financing from the state for favored industries, strong emphasis on agriculture, etc.
- They're strongly pro-youth and pro-youth involvement in politics. Aside from a strong opposition to bullying and sponsoring youth involvement in politics, they're, again, highly similar to Juan Carlos. They definitely favor universal early childhood education. The biggest difference from ARENA that I can see is that they think university should be open and free. Whether they mean universal admission or this is just an anti-discrimination ordinance I couldn't tell.
- They, almost shockingly for what seems up to this point to be a fairly moderate left platform, favor gender quotas in government positions. "The new government should constitute itself half women, half men". They're generally highly pro-feminist. Favoring women in divorce seems to be a major part of their platform. They're also very pro-indigenous rights.
- They favor reparations to victims of the civil war.
- They're pro-sports and pro-government support for sports, and pro-freedom of religion. I don't really know what's controversial in El Salvador so I'm throwing these out there even though it seems like they're probably feel good planks they included to try to get their opponents on record opposing them.
- They talk tough on crime and anti-drug, but don't offer a lot of specific details. They're big on two specific progams- Yo Cambio(I change) and Servir a mi Gente(to serve my people) for reintegration. They're anti corruption and it looks pretty boilerplate.
- They have a focus on increasing the quality of healthcare. This contrasts with ARENA which focuses on increasing the availability. They're in favor of community integrated health teams- pretty common with poor latin american countries.
- They want to increase the welfare budget- not surprising for a left wing party. They talk about welfare being family oriented, but it looks to me like they're just trying to make the opposition oppose it. If you name a group, they want benefits for it- in addition to the aforementioned women's and indigenous people's benefits, they explicitly want disability, old age, and veterans benefits as separate planks in their platform.
- They're green, but if push comes to shove, they'll probably choose jobs every time. They specifically call out being pro-ocean.
- They're pretty globalist-internationalist. They want closer trade links, more open to the world, you name it. Very pro-transportation/infrastructure spending.
by Shrillland » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:29 am
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