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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:08 pm

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Sooooooooo? Any military regiment flags are not part of their country? :blink:


Not what I’m implying. Though we commonly call it the confederate flag, it never was the national flag of the Confederate States.


Oh, well then.

There you have it folks. Good job, Chernoslavia. You win... Absolutely nothing because nobody cares.

Also, gg on saying a Confederate flag isn't a Confederate flag.
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Postby Seangoli » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:09 pm

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Sooooooooo? Any military regiment flags are not part of their country? :blink:


Not what I’m implying. Though we commonly call it the confederate flag, it never was the national flag of the Confederate States.



Good fucking thing that's ot what the original damn point was. Being that the flag is A Confederate flag. Which it damn well is, because it was created by Confederates. The argument isn't that it is THE Confederate Flag, but rather that it is A Confederate flag, one that came into popular useage to represent the Confederacy even among Confederates and their supporters, even if it was never "officially" adopted as such.


This is pedantic bullshit that isn't even correct, to be blunt. The Confederates themselves wouldn't bat an eye if yoh stated that the Battle Flag was a Confederate Flag; in fact, they would say "damn right!", and proudly tell you how that flag is a Confederate flag.

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:11 pm

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Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual national flags of the CSA. The stars and bars, the stainless ,and the blood stained banner late in the war. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?


So being the actual official Confederate Naval Jack, that was adopted and used by the Confederate Navy as their official flag, means that it is not a Confederate flag.

Coolsies...


Show me evidence that it was ever the official flag of the CSA. If you can’t, then get lost.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:11 pm

You know what, maybe this is all a satire. This is the kind of thing the student in the OP would argue about.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:17 pm

The Rich Port wrote:You know what, maybe this is all a satire. This is the kind of thing the student in the OP would argue about.


Who was never wrong. Also, there’s later video where he said he didn’t mean that whites were the most superior.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:17 pm

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Liriena wrote:Was it used by the military forces of the Confederates? And is it used by people who sympathize with the Confederacy today? And can you please stop being so emotional over a stupid flag?


Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”

How is it not "a Confederate flag" when it was used by the military forces of that rogue state and by its contemporary sympathizers?
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:19 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:You know what, maybe this is all a satire. This is the kind of thing the student in the OP would argue about.


Who was never wrong.

Infallibility is for popes, not drunk STEM nerds trying to argue for the "superiority" of "Western" (dogwhistle for "white") civilization.

Chernoslavia wrote:Also, there’s later video where he said he didn’t mean that whites were the most superior.

That's almost worse. He's a useful idiot.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:20 pm

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The Rich Port wrote:You know what, maybe this is all a satire. This is the kind of thing the student in the OP would argue about.


Who was never wrong. Also, there’s later video where he said he didn’t mean that whites were the most superior.


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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:21 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
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So being the actual official Confederate Naval Jack, that was adopted and used by the Confederate Navy as their official flag, means that it is not a Confederate flag.

Coolsies...


Show me evidence that it was ever the official flag of the CSA. If you can’t, then get lost.

"a" =/= "the"

It was a battle flag used by the Confederacy in battle to represent its cause and it's a flag used by its contemporary sympathizers to represent its cause. It's not the national flag... which I never claimed it was.

You're not even arguing against a real mistake someone made.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:22 pm

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Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”

How is it not "a Confederate flag" when it was used by the military forces of that rogue state and by its contemporary sympathizers?


I am well aware that you never meant that it was the official national flag, but I get pretty OCD when it comes to the terms being used. I guess in your context, yes it is a confederate flag in that it was created and used by the confederate armies and Navy.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Seangoli » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:22 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
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So being the actual official Confederate Naval Jack, that was adopted and used by the Confederate Navy as their official flag, means that it is not a Confederate flag.

Coolsies...


Show me evidence that it was ever the official flag of the CSA. If you can’t, then get lost.



Not a single damn person in the entire thread has argued that. Not a single person's argument in rhe entire damn thread hinges on that. The original argument that started this is that the person was using an image that is, in the Modern day in particularly, representative of the Confederacy. Even historically. It was representative of the fucking Confederacy even though that specific flag was never officially the flag.

I have no idea why you have this absurd hang up. It literally has nothing to do nothing, proving no point aside from you erroneously being a pedant for no apparent reason to no apparent end.

It's like saying that the Marine Corp flag is not an American flag. Its not THE American flag, but it absolutely is AN American Flag, being as how it js solely used to represent the American Marine Corps. It belong to America, making it AN American flag. The Battle Flag belonged to the Confederacy, making it A Confederate flag.


Not a single damn person aside from you has even brought up for a moment that it was THE OFFICIAL Flag of the Confederacy. We know that, this is new information to nobody, and this point has jackshit to do with anything at all. It is being an annoying pendant whom is arguing to the wind, making no point at all and having no interest in actual discussion. Your entire side track is totally and utterly pointless, providing zero insight or purpose, serving only to heighten your own ego as you, erroneously, think you are teaching something that isn't already well known.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:23 pm

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Show me evidence that it was ever the official flag of the CSA. If you can’t, then get lost.



Not a single damn person in the entire thread has argued that. Not a single person's argument in rhe entire damn thread hinges on that. The original argument that started this is that the person was using an image that is, in the Modern day in particularly, representative of the Confederacy. Even historically. It was representative of the fucking Confederacy even though that specific flag was never officially the flag.

I have no idea why you have this absurd hang up. It literally has nothing to do nothing, proving no point aside from you erroneously being a pedant for no apparent reason to no apparent end.

It's like saying that the Marine Corp flag is not an American flag. Its not THE American flag, but it absolutely is AN American Flag, being as how it js solely used to represent the American Marine Corps. It belong to America, making it AN American flag. The Battle Flag belonged to the Confederacy, making it A Confederate flag.


Not a single damn person aside from you has even brought up for a moment that it was THE OFFICIAL Flag of the Confederacy. We fucking know that, and this point has jackshit to do with anything at all. It is being an annoying pendant whom is arguing to the wind, making no point having no interest inactual discussion. Your entire sode track is totally and utterly pointless, providing zero insight or purpose, serving only to heighten your own ego as you, erroneously, think you are teaching something that isn't already well fucking known.


Because if he admits he's being pedantic, he'll look silly.

You know, cuz being pedantic doesn't make him look silly. ᖗ◉ل͜◉ᖘ
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:25 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
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Not a single damn person in the entire thread has argued that. Not a single person's argument in rhe entire damn thread hinges on that. The original argument that started this is that the person was using an image that is, in the Modern day in particularly, representative of the Confederacy. Even historically. It was representative of the fucking Confederacy even though that specific flag was never officially the flag.

I have no idea why you have this absurd hang up. It literally has nothing to do nothing, proving no point aside from you erroneously being a pedant for no apparent reason to no apparent end.

It's like saying that the Marine Corp flag is not an American flag. Its not THE American flag, but it absolutely is AN American Flag, being as how it js solely used to represent the American Marine Corps. It belong to America, making it AN American flag. The Battle Flag belonged to the Confederacy, making it A Confederate flag.


Not a single damn person aside from you has even brought up for a moment that it was THE OFFICIAL Flag of the Confederacy. We fucking know that, and this point has jackshit to do with anything at all. It is being an annoying pendant whom is arguing to the wind, making no point having no interest inactual discussion. Your entire sode track is totally and utterly pointless, providing zero insight or purpose, serving only to heighten your own ego as you, erroneously, think you are teaching something that isn't already well fucking known.


Because if he admits he's being pedantic, he'll look silly.

You know, cuz being pedantic doesn't make him look silly. ᖗ◉ل͜◉ᖘ

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:26 pm

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Sooooooooo? Any military regiment flags are not part of their country? :blink:


Not what I’m implying. Though we commonly call it the confederate flag, it never was the national flag of the Confederate States.


Hmmmm? Sounds like more of an attempt to whitewash the imagery. That kind of a technical discussion belongs only in a history class and even then it's a stretch.

People see the Stars and Bars and think confederacy. They are not going to separate the army from the rebellion. They are the same. The effort to change it semantically only gets you ignored and only supported by people who celebrate the confederacy and try to tell people it wasn't about slaves, etc.

I have seen this before by people who try to make the SS regiments look better.

It was a flag of the confederacy; try to call it a "battle flag" is simply an attempt to justify flying it without the scorn it receives and well for that matter the scorn it deserves.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:26 pm

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Liriena wrote:How is it not "a Confederate flag" when it was used by the military forces of that rogue state and by its contemporary sympathizers?


I am well aware that you never meant that it was the official national flag, but I get pretty OCD when it comes to the terms being used. I guess in your context, yes it is a confederate flag in that it was created and used by the confederate armies and Navy.

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:27 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Seangoli wrote:

Not a single damn person in the entire thread has argued that. Not a single person's argument in rhe entire damn thread hinges on that. The original argument that started this is that the person was using an image that is, in the Modern day in particularly, representative of the Confederacy. Even historically. It was representative of the fucking Confederacy even though that specific flag was never officially the flag.

I have no idea why you have this absurd hang up. It literally has nothing to do nothing, proving no point aside from you erroneously being a pedant for no apparent reason to no apparent end.

It's like saying that the Marine Corp flag is not an American flag. Its not THE American flag, but it absolutely is AN American Flag, being as how it js solely used to represent the American Marine Corps. It belong to America, making it AN American flag. The Battle Flag belonged to the Confederacy, making it A Confederate flag.


Not a single damn person aside from you has even brought up for a moment that it was THE OFFICIAL Flag of the Confederacy. We fucking know that, and this point has jackshit to do with anything at all. It is being an annoying pendant whom is arguing to the wind, making no point having no interest inactual discussion. Your entire sode track is totally and utterly pointless, providing zero insight or purpose, serving only to heighten your own ego as you, erroneously, think you are teaching something that isn't already well fucking known.


Because if he admits he's being pedantic, he'll look silly.

You know, cuz being pedantic doesn't make him look silly. ᖗ◉ل͜◉ᖘ


I don’t think you know what that word means, for if you did you’d know it’d be very hypocritical to accuse someone of it on NSG.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:28 pm

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I am well aware that you never meant that it was the official national flag, but I get pretty OCD when it comes to the terms being used. I guess in your context, yes it is a confederate flag in that it was created and used by the confederate armies and Navy.

Finally.


Oh hush, commie.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Because if he admits he's being pedantic, he'll look silly.

You know, cuz being pedantic doesn't make him look silly. ᖗ◉ل͜◉ᖘ


I don’t think you know what that word means, for if you did you’d know it’d be very hypocritical to accuse someone of it on NSG.


From the best dictionary in the world, Urban Dictionary:

A state of mind which is about caring a lot about formalities, often more than necessary. One may be called pedantic when he/she points out corrections in unimportant details.


I think fussing over what is the "official" Confederate flag counts.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:31 pm

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I don’t think you know what that word means, for if you did you’d know it’d be very hypocritical to accuse someone of it on NSG.


From the best dictionary in the world, Urban Dictionary:

A state of mind which is about caring a lot about formalities, often more than necessary. One may be called pedantic when he/she points out corrections in unimportant details.


I think fussing over what is the "official" Confederate flag counts.


Now tell me what part of NS you’re in.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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From the best dictionary in the world, Urban Dictionary:



I think fussing over what is the "official" Confederate flag counts.


Now tell me what part of NS you’re in.


The one where a Confederate flag is a Confederate flag?
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:37 pm

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Now tell me what part of NS you’re in.


The one where a Confederate flag is a Confederate flag?


In this context sure.

But what I mean is we’re in NS General, where everyone argues excessively over the most trivial of things.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:37 pm

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So being the actual official Confederate Naval Jack, that was adopted and used by the Confederate Navy as their official flag, means that it is not a Confederate flag.

Coolsies...


Show me evidence that it was ever the official flag of the CSA. If you can’t, then get lost.


Not as a whole flag, but still, here you go.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:38 pm

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The one where a Confederate flag is a Confederate flag?


In this context sure.

But what I mean is we’re in NS General, where everyone argues excessively over the key trivial of things.


Except for... This thread. Where you're the only one arguing that "the" Confederate flag (as in, the one commonly referred to as THE Confederate flag, by both anti-Confederates and pro-Confederates) isn't "THE" Confederate flag.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:39 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
In this context sure.

But what I mean is we’re in NS General, where everyone argues excessively over the key trivial of things.


Except for... This thread. Where you're the only one arguing that "the" Confederate flag (as in, the one commonly referred to as THE Confederate flag, by both anti-Confederates and pro-Confederates) isn't "THE" Confederate flag.


Ok but I’m not talking about just this thread.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:40 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Except for... This thread. Where you're the only one arguing that "the" Confederate flag (as in, the one commonly referred to as THE Confederate flag, by both anti-Confederates and pro-Confederates) isn't "THE" Confederate flag.


Ok but I’m not talking about just this thread.


... Do YOU know where you are, Dorothy?
THOSE THAT SOW THORNS SHOULD NOT EXPECT FLOWERS
CONSERVATISM IS FEAR AND STAGNATION AS IDEOLOGY. ONLY MARCH FORWARD.

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