UC Student Gives Drunken Rant About White Pride

[Seangoli]

... That's not "NEVER" any of the Confederate flags. It was used by Confederate armies. And today, it's used by people like you that don't want the truth about the Confederacy being discussed openly.

1. ...and wrong again. It was never referred to as a confederate flag anywhere over 100 years ago. Only to idiots who want to associate anyone who has it as a racist.
2. Oh really now? Then please elaborate what truths “us people” are hiding.

...

So the Confederates adopting the image of the Battle flag into their official flags from 1863 oneards specifically because it was popular among confederate soldiers whom associated it with the Confederacy means it was never referred to as a Confederate flag 100 years ago or so ago.

Your logic is dizzying, to say the least.

[The Rich Port]

... That's not "NEVER" any of the Confederate flags. It was used by Confederate armies. And today, it's used by people like you that don't want the truth about the Confederacy being discussed openly.

1. ...and wrong again. It was never referred to as a confederate flag anywhere over 100 years ago. Only by idiots who want to associate anyone who has it as a racist.
2. Oh really now? Then please elaborate what truths “us people” are hiding.

... It was Robert E. Lee's fucking battle flag. He's not a fucking CHINESE commander.

That the Civil War was being fought over state rights.

Specifically, the state right to maintain the institution of slavery, which operated off the racist ideology of white supremacy.

[Liriena]

1. ...and wrong again. It was never referred to as a confederate flag anywhere over 100 years ago. Only to idiots who want to associate anyone who has it as a racist.
2. Oh really now? Then please elaborate what truths “us people” are hiding.

...

So the Confederates adopting the image of the Battle flag into their official flags from 1863 oneards specifically because it was popular among confederate soldiers whom associated it with the Confederacy means it was never referred to as a Confederate flag 100 years ago or so ago.

Your logic is dizzying, to say the least.

My man left NSG for two weeks and now he comes back red, mad and nude for a chance to get some juicy plausible deniability for contemporary Confederate sympathizers.

[Chernoslavia]

The banner displayed was NEVER any of the confederate flags. They were as you yourself have said, battle flags. If I have to show you proof of this then you like Gen are being willfully ignorant of history.

One should never accuse their opponent of something they’ve done themselves. That’s pathetic.

Both the official Second and Third national flags of the Confederacy incorporated the battle flag into their design, rather specifically because of how popular the image was in the confederacy.

To try to argue that image is somehow not intrinsically tied to representations of the Confederacy is just delusion, intentional or otherwise.

The flag that is being displayed isn’t any of the actual confederate flags however. You have a right to remain ignorant.

Show me where I said it wasn’t used by or tied to the confederacy. I’m simply saying that the terminology is incorrect. Like how anti gun people idiotically refer to a firearm magazine as “clips”. People will know what you mean but the wrong terminology is a bit annoying to some however minor it may be.

[Seangoli]

1. ...and wrong again. It was never referred to as a confederate flag anywhere over 100 years ago. Only by idiots who want to associate anyone who has it as a racist.
2. Oh really now? Then please elaborate what truths “us people” are hiding.

... It was Robert E. Lee's fucking battle flag. He's not a fucking CHINESE commander.

That the Civil War was being fought over state rights.

Specifically, the state right to maintain the institution of slavery, which operated off the racist ideology of white supremacy.

The logic is confounding. A flag created entirely by Confederates for the sole useage of Confederates to represent Confederates that later became so popular in useage that it was incorporated into the offical flag of the Confederacy is somehow... not in any way a Confederate flag.

I really can't wrap my head aroudnd this one.

[Chernoslavia]

1. ...and wrong again. It was never referred to as a confederate flag anywhere over 100 years ago. Only by idiots who want to associate anyone who has it as a racist.
2. Oh really now? Then please elaborate what truths “us people” are hiding.

... It was Robert E. Lee's fucking battle flag. He's not a fucking CHINESE commander.

That the Civil War was being fought over state rights.

Specifically, the state right to maintain the institution of slavery, which operated off the racist ideology of white supremacy.

1. And what’s your fucking point? You’re still using the wrong terminology period. Keep crying.
2. So point where I argued against this, I’ll wait.

[Liriena]

... It was Robert E. Lee's fucking battle flag. He's not a fucking CHINESE commander.

That the Civil War was being fought over state rights.

Specifically, the state right to maintain the institution of slavery, which operated off the racist ideology of white supremacy.

The logic is confounding. A flag created entirely by Confederates for the sole useage of Confederates to represent Confederates that later became so popular in useage that it was incorporated into the offical flag of the Confederacy is somehow... not in any way a Confederate flag.

I really can't wrap my head aroudnd this one.

He's applying the "it's only really a thing if it's in its name" logic. Y'know, the same logic that gave us unforgettable hits like "nazis were socialists because it's in their party's naaaaaaame!!!!!".

A true masterclass in understanding history.

[The Rich Port]

... It was Robert E. Lee's fucking battle flag. He's not a fucking CHINESE commander.

That the Civil War was being fought over state rights.

Specifically, the state right to maintain the institution of slavery, which operated off the racist ideology of white supremacy.

The logic is confounding. A flag created entirely by Confederates for the sole useage of Confederates to represent Confederates that later became so popular in useage that it was incorporated into the offical flag of the Confederacy is somehow... not in any way a Confederate flag.

I really can't wrap my head aroudnd this one.

Well you see, Seangoli. Robert E. Lee was actually not fighting for the Confederacy, but for the fucking Soviet Union, turns out. Whodathunkit. What a heel turn.

[Seangoli]

Both the official Second and Third national flags of the Confederacy incorporated the battle flag into their design, rather specifically because of how popular the image was in the confederacy.

To try to argue that image is somehow not intrinsically tied to representations of the Confederacy is just delusion, intentional or otherwise.

The flag that is being displayed isn’t any of the actual confederate flags however. You have a right to remain ignorant.

Show me where I said it wasn’t used by or tied to the confederacy. I’m simply saying that the terminology is incorrect. Like how anti gun people idiotically refer to a firearm magazine as “clips”. People will know what you mean but the wrong terminology is a bit annoying to some however minor it may be.

It is absolutely, 100% a Confederate flag. There is nothing wrong with saying it is a Confederate flag. It was developed solely by Confederates to represent other Confederates. It useage became so popular that even those who support the Confederacy adopted it to represent support for the Confederacy, both durong and after the war.

How in the nine hells is this not a Confederate Flag? Its like argung that the Marine Corp. flag is not a United States flag.

[Liriena]

Keep crying.

This is the most corncobbed you've ever been. January must be doing a number on you.

[Chernoslavia]

... It was Robert E. Lee's fucking battle flag. He's not a fucking CHINESE commander.

That the Civil War was being fought over state rights.

Specifically, the state right to maintain the institution of slavery, which operated off the racist ideology of white supremacy.

The logic is confounding. A flag created entirely by Confederates for the sole useage of Confederates to represent Confederates that later became so popular in useage that it was incorporated into the offical flag of the Confederacy is somehow... not in any way a Confederate flag.

I really can't wrap my head aroudnd this one.

The version I am referring to has never been any of the confederate flags, it was a battle flag, a banner. I am not going to keep going back with you people over this. Deny it all you want but you’re wrong. It would be been much better to refer to it as a Confederate battle flag.

[Liriena]

The logic is confounding. A flag created entirely by Confederates for the sole useage of Confederates to represent Confederates that later became so popular in useage that it was incorporated into the offical flag of the Confederacy is somehow... not in any way a Confederate flag.

I really can't wrap my head aroudnd this one.

The version I am referring to has never been any of the confederate flags, it was a battle flag, a banner. I am not going to keep going back with you people over this. Deny it all you want but you’re wrong.

Was it used by the military forces of the Confederates? And is it used by people who sympathize with the Confederacy today? And can you please stop being so emotional over a stupid flag?

[The Rich Port]

The logic is confounding. A flag created entirely by Confederates for the sole useage of Confederates to represent Confederates that later became so popular in useage that it was incorporated into the offical flag of the Confederacy is somehow... not in any way a Confederate flag.

I really can't wrap my head aroudnd this one.

The version I am referring to has never been any of the confederate flags, it was a battle flag, a banner. I am not going to keep going back with you people over this. Deny it all you want but you’re wrong. It would be been much better to refer to it as a Confederate battle flag.

Yeah, OK, we're wrong.

[Chernoslavia]

Keep crying.

This is the most corncobbed you've ever been. January must be doing a number on you.

And now you’re back to calling the kettle black again.

[The Black Forrest]

The logic is confounding. A flag created entirely by Confederates for the sole useage of Confederates to represent Confederates that later became so popular in useage that it was incorporated into the offical flag of the Confederacy is somehow... not in any way a Confederate flag.

I really can't wrap my head aroudnd this one.

The version I am referring to has never been any of the confederate flags, it was a battle flag, a banner. I am not going to keep going back with you people over this. Deny it all you want but you’re wrong. It would be been much better to refer to it as a Confederate battle flag.

Ahhhhh? A flag created and used by the confederates is not a confederate flag? Sorry I took my logic pills today.

[The Rich Port]

The version I am referring to has never been any of the confederate flags, it was a battle flag, a banner. I am not going to keep going back with you people over this. Deny it all you want but you’re wrong. It would be been much better to refer to it as a Confederate battle flag.

Ahhhhh? A flag created and used by the confederates is not a confederate flag? Sorry I took my logic pills today.

No it's the fucking Kuomingtang Confederate flag. What are you, a PEDANT?

[Seangoli]

The logic is confounding. A flag created entirely by Confederates for the sole useage of Confederates to represent Confederates that later became so popular in useage that it was incorporated into the offical flag of the Confederacy is somehow... not in any way a Confederate flag.

I really can't wrap my head aroudnd this one.

The version I am referring to has never been any of the confederate flags, it was a battle flag, a banner. I am not going to keep going back with you people over this. Deny it all you want but you’re wrong. It would be been much better to refer to it as a Confederate battle flag.

Good god, the pedantic bullshit hoops you are jumping through.


Both Robert E. Lee and Beauragard officially adopted the flag as theor army's official flag. The flag was also the official Naval Jack for the Confederate Navy, adopted in 1863. Making it an officially recognized Confeserate flag that thenfucking Confederate government recognized as an official flag for a branch of the damn Confederacy.

It was the actual official flag used by multiple groups in the Confederacy, and was far from "just" a battle flag. Its iconography was officially recognized as being integral to Confederate identity, particularly at the time the Confederacy existed.

[Chernoslavia]

The version I am referring to has never been any of the confederate flags, it was a battle flag, a banner. I am not going to keep going back with you people over this. Deny it all you want but you’re wrong.

Was it used by the military forces of the Confederates? And is it used by people who sympathize with the Confederacy today? And can you please stop being so emotional over a stupid flag?

Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual national flags of the CSA. The stars and bars, the stainless ,and the blood stained banner late in the war. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?

[Uiiop]

Was it used by the military forces of the Confederates? And is it used by people who sympathize with the Confederacy today? And can you please stop being so emotional over a stupid flag?

Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual flags of the CSA. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?

Going nuh uh over a definition isn't good argumentation.
To be blunt you need to prove that this distinction matters.
Why does it matters that a flag widely used in a shithole state is not an official flag but an official naval flag. What does that change in the flag's meaning?

[The Rich Port]

Was it used by the military forces of the Confederates? And is it used by people who sympathize with the Confederacy today? And can you please stop being so emotional over a stupid flag?

Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual flags of the CSA. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?

Yeah, we sure got told off.

It's not a Confederate flag.

kek i'm just pretending to agree with him.

[The Black Forrest]

Was it used by the military forces of the Confederates? And is it used by people who sympathize with the Confederacy today? And can you please stop being so emotional over a stupid flag?

Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual flags of the CSA. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?

Sooooooooo? Any military regiment flags are not part of their country?

[The Rich Port]

Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual flags of the CSA. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?

Sooooooooo? Any military regiment flags are not part of their country?

No, see, I get it now.

It's not the AMERICAN Confederacy.

It's a DANUBIAN Confederate flag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... er_Austria

Our fucking mistake, amirite.

[Chernoslavia]

Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual flags of the CSA. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?

Sooooooooo? Any military regiment flags are not part of their country?

Not what I’m implying. Though we commonly call it the confederate flag, it never was the national flag of the Confederate States.

[Seangoli]

Was it used by the military forces of the Confederates? And is it used by people who sympathize with the Confederacy today? And can you please stop being so emotional over a stupid flag?

Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual national flags of the CSA. The stars and bars, the stainless ,and the blood stained banner late in the war. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?

So being the actual official Confederate Naval Jack, that was adopted and used by the Confederate Navy as their official flag, means that it is not a Confederate flag.

Coolsies...

[Chernoslavia]

Irrelevant. It’s not “a confederate flag”, that’s used to refer to the actual flags of the CSA. And can you stop getting butthurt over being corrected?

Yeah, we sure got told off.

It's not a Confederate flag.

kek i'm just pretending to agree with him.

You have a right to be ignorant.

And why the fuck are you using white fonts?