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Postby Loben » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Yes because i love losing money.


Yeah its their fault they aren't getting paid and might not have enough money.


pretty much, i'd serve an eviction notice and attract a better class of tenant.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Loben wrote:
wtf i love landlords and the IRS now.


Putting people on the street because a heartless president choose to shutdown the government is a good thing. Anyone with a heart would say i'll the rent payment slide or take less. The IRS probubly would care less.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:00 pm

Loben wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah its their fault they aren't getting paid and might not have enough money.


pretty much, i'd serve an eviction notice and attract a better class of tenant.

Well then you are a truly heartless person

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Postby Loben » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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pretty much, i'd serve an eviction notice and attract a better class of tenant.

Well then you are a truly heartless person


Coming from you ill take as a compliment and fucking run with it.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:42 pm

Loben wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Well then you are a truly heartless person


Coming from you ill take as a compliment and fucking run with it.

Im sorry you think that's a compliment. To say you would throw someone out on the street through no fault of their own is truly a heartless thing to say.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:44 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Putting people on the street because a heartless president choose to shutdown the government is a good thing. Anyone with a heart would say i'll the rent payment slide or take less. The IRS probubly would care less.

Supply and demand > feelings

Yeah lets punish people for something they cannot control.

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Postby Myrensis » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:50 pm



If I weren't generally opposed to the idea of another Great Depression, I'd suggest that Trump should go personally and use all of his amazing charisma, negotiating skills, and business acumen to convince the markets that everything is going to be fine.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Supply and demand > feelings

Yeah lets punish people for something they cannot control.

Working for a government you know can shut down at all implies you accept it as a risk.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:56 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah lets punish people for something they cannot control.

Working for a government you know can shut down at all implies you accept it as a risk.


Im sorry I have a heart and dont think someone ought to be punished for something they had no say in.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Working for a government you know can shut down at all implies you accept it as a risk.


Im sorry I have a heart and dont think someone ought to be punished for something they had no say in.

They had plenty of say when signing their contracts.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:02 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Im sorry I have a heart and dont think someone ought to be punished for something they had no say in.

They had plenty of say when signing their contracts.


a government shutdown and not getting paid and as a result not having money to pay rent and others things isn't something anyone should be punished for. They are not choosing to be short money.

That would be a heartless landlord. I could see the IRS totally garnishing wages or hounding people for unpaid taxes. Its likely a fair number of them have no heart.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:They had plenty of say when signing their contracts.


a government shutdown and not getting paid and as a result not having money to pay rent and others things isn't something anyone should be punished for. They are not choosing to be short money.

That would be a heartless landlord. I could see the IRS totally garnishing wages or hounding people for unpaid taxes. Its likely a fair number of them have no heart.

Try to avoid this.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:34 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
a government shutdown and not getting paid and as a result not having money to pay rent and others things isn't something anyone should be punished for. They are not choosing to be short money.

That would be a heartless landlord. I could see the IRS totally garnishing wages or hounding people for unpaid taxes. Its likely a fair number of them have no heart.

Try to avoid this.


San Lumen avoiding the use of emotional appeal?

Yeah, you'll have better luck winning the lottery.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:06 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah lets punish people for something they cannot control.

Working for a government you know can shut down at all implies you accept it as a risk.

That is bullshit. The normal functioning of a government does not involve shutdowns. It’s like you are hit by a car crossing the road, but the driver will not pay damages because ‘you accepted the risk by crossing the road’.
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Postby Mardla » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:30 am

Vassenor wrote:
Mardla wrote:If you count incidence rather than quantity, sure.


Let's see your data then.

Given that mine came from the horse's mouth.

Mexican TCOs transport the majority of illicit drugs into the United States across the SWB using a wide array of smuggling techniques. The most common method
employed by these TCOs involves transporting illicit drugs through U.S. ports of entry (POEs) in passenger vehicles with concealed compartments or commingled with legitimate goods on tractor trailers. Additionally, Mexican TCOs transport illicit drugs, such as methamphetamine and cocaine, dissolved in liquid solutions, across the SWB. Once across the border, Mexican TCOs coordinate for illicit drug shipments to be divided into smaller shipments and sent to distribution points throughout the United States.

Well then it appears you're right, but much definitely comes over without going through ports of entry.

JTF-W led the initiative to implement a standardized operational planning process across the SWB Corridors. This process was aligned with the overarching DHS Operational Planning Guidance and the DHS Campaign Plan for Securing the U.S. Southern Border and Approaches. Through this process, JTF-W is able to articulate how strategic goals are being implemented tactically, through named operations, targeting prioritized TCOs. An example of this collaboration was Operation OPTAR. In Arizona this past year, DHS Components from the JTF-W Arizona Corridor jointly planned and executed an operation targeting heroin smuggling through the POE. This joint effort resulted in the seizure of almost 5,000 kilograms of drugs, including heroin, cocaine, marijuana and methamphetamines bound for the United States and12,000 rounds of ammunition and approximately $80,000 bound for Mexico.


https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/04/04/wri ... tee-border
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:57 am

Mardla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Let's see your data then.

Given that mine came from the horse's mouth.


Well then it appears you're right, but much definitely comes over without going through ports of entry.

JTF-W led the initiative to implement a standardized operational planning process across the SWB Corridors. This process was aligned with the overarching DHS Operational Planning Guidance and the DHS Campaign Plan for Securing the U.S. Southern Border and Approaches. Through this process, JTF-W is able to articulate how strategic goals are being implemented tactically, through named operations, targeting prioritized TCOs. An example of this collaboration was Operation OPTAR. In Arizona this past year, DHS Components from the JTF-W Arizona Corridor jointly planned and executed an operation targeting heroin smuggling through the POE. This joint effort resulted in the seizure of almost 5,000 kilograms of drugs, including heroin, cocaine, marijuana and methamphetamines bound for the United States and12,000 rounds of ammunition and approximately $80,000 bound for Mexico.


https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/04/04/wri ... tee-border

Umm your own citation is talking about POEs.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:29 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Working for a government you know can shut down at all implies you accept it as a risk.

That is bullshit. The normal functioning of a government does not involve shutdowns. It’s like you are hit by a car crossing the road, but the driver will not pay damages because ‘you accepted the risk by crossing the road’.

This ^

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Postby Telconi » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:That is bullshit. The normal functioning of a government does not involve shutdowns. It’s like you are hit by a car crossing the road, but the driver will not pay damages because ‘you accepted the risk by crossing the road’.

This ^


The normal functioning of ours does.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:01 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:This ^


The normal functioning of ours does.

Well it should not and government workers ought to not be penalized for it. Some of them have children. A heartless landlord or IRS should not throw them ought into the street because a awful president wants a racist ineffective wall.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:05 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
The normal functioning of ours does.

Well it should not and government workers ought to not be penalized for it. Some of them have children. A heartless landlord or IRS should not throw them ought into the street because a awful president wants a racist ineffective wall.


-shrug-

Yeah, the Landlord should instead not have income, because he or she can't have children right?

Hey, they could just slap some wall funds in there and end the shutdown today.
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Postby Aellex » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:06 am

Loben wrote:
San Lumen wrote:This is Trump's shutdown and he alone owns it . Democrats dont have to do anything. They should not give him one penny for his wall. Maybe eventually his cult like base will wake up when all planes are grounded from ATC going on strike but they will likely still blame the Democrats or maybe Obama. Trump can literally do no wrong in their view.

It would be nice to see landlords and especially the IRS cut people slack because they aren't getting paid but its likely they dont have the heart especially the IRS.


wtf i love landlords and the IRS now.

Haven't you been loving the IRS since the thot-audit tho? :p
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:07 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Well it should not and government workers ought to not be penalized for it. Some of them have children. A heartless landlord or IRS should not throw them ought into the street because a awful president wants a racist ineffective wall.


-shrug-

Yeah, the Landlord should instead not have income, because he or she can't have children right?

Hey, they could just slap some wall funds in there and end the shutdown today.


Yeah lets punish children because mommy or daddy isnt getting paid

The wall does not have the votes. Neither party wants it.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:10 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
-shrug-

Yeah, the Landlord should instead not have income, because he or she can't have children right?

Hey, they could just slap some wall funds in there and end the shutdown today.


Yeah lets punish children because mommy or daddy isnt getting paid

The wall does not have the votes. Neither party wants it.


And how would we not """punish children"""
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:11 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah lets punish children because mommy or daddy isnt getting paid

The wall does not have the votes. Neither party wants it.


And how would we not """punish children"""

By having a heart.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:12 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And how would we not """punish children"""

By having a heart.


That's a meaningless statement...
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