MAGAThread XV: Because Another

[Mardla]

Most heroin is definitely not bought online, and no, it is absolutely not easy to cook high grade meth, especially in large quantities without being detected.

I never said anything about it being high quality, but meth labs are a dime a dozen. Whilst most isn't bought online it's very easy to get fentanyl in about 5 minutes with the power of the internet and that's only going to become more common. A wall is a piss poor way of stopping drug usage.

Trust me, no one is getting cartel rich from garage drug labs. No only is quantity a major issue, but helicopters can detect emissions from such labs, and the state confiscates the property.

[Vassenor]

Most drug smuggling occurs through legal ports of entry.

If you count incidence rather than quantity, sure.

Let's see your data then.

Given that mine came from the horse's mouth.

Mexican TCOs transport the majority of illicit drugs into the United States across the SWB using a wide array of smuggling techniques. The most common method
employed by these TCOs involves transporting illicit drugs through U.S. ports of entry (POEs) in passenger vehicles with concealed compartments or commingled with legitimate goods on tractor trailers. Additionally, Mexican TCOs transport illicit drugs, such as methamphetamine and cocaine, dissolved in liquid solutions, across the SWB. Once across the border, Mexican TCOs coordinate for illicit drug shipments to be divided into smaller shipments and sent to distribution points throughout the United States.

[Tarsonis]

This is the most idiotic discussion I’ve seen on NSG and that’s saying something.... I’d like to play.


If Mexico were annexed by the US, whites would still be a larger group by about 4 million people.

In our new 450 million people country, that’s a little under 1%

About 9/10 of U.S. Hispanics are demographically censused as white, which is the whole basis of your point.

Nope, those numbers are counting Hispanics as non-whites. Counting them as whites it becomes more stilted toward white.

[Corrian]

Which it would do a poor job of, given most people here illegally are visa overstays. I'm all for border security but an actual wall is stupid in all but the most high traffic areas.

Pretty sure most heroin and meth don't get here through overstays.

Do you know what a slingshot or catapult is? You can still get that over.

[San Lumen]

its probably a dead horse by now, but what function would a wall even have?

Keeping people out.

Have you never heard of a plane or ship? And you want to end visas? Are you serious?

Great way to collapse the economy

[Duhon]

Trump has affirmed: government isn't opening until he gets his border wall.

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Trump has affirmed: government isn't opening until he gets his border wall.

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

If the Democrats cave in to Trump's demands, then they will also lose their credibility as a party.

[Duhon]

It is true. There are 270 million whiite Americana and 110 Mexicans.

Yes, whites make up 76.9% of the American population. That is, if you count 95% of Hispanics as white. Factoring out Hispanics, means whites comprise 61.3% of the population.

You guys really give two thousand infinity tons of bullshit about whose skin has more melanin, don't you?

[Duhon]

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

If the Democrats cave in to Trump's demands, then they will also lose their credibility as a party.

They have to -- Trump won't give in, as he doesn't give a shit about governing in the first place, but wants his choir to praise him without stopping. The rest just want to govern, or at least reestablish a functioning government, even with a fucking manbaby and his bloody wall attached.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

If the Democrats cave in to Trump's demands, then they will also lose their credibility as a party.

They have to -- Trump won't give in, as he doesn't give a shit about governing in the first place, but wants his choir to praise him without stopping. The rest just want to govern, or at least reestablish a functioning government, even with a fucking manbaby and his bloody wall attached.

And take a massive dump on what is effectively their last bastion of credibility?

Questionable, especially in such a polarized America.

[Corrian]

Trump has affirmed: government isn't opening until he gets his border wall.

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Let's not be over dramatic here.

[Duhon]

They have to -- Trump won't give in, as he doesn't give a shit about governing in the first place, but wants his choir to praise him without stopping. The rest just want to govern, or at least reestablish a functioning government, even with a fucking manbaby and his bloody wall attached.

And take a massive dump on what is effectively their last bastion of credibility?

Questionable, especially in such a polarized America.

Which is more important, credibility or having a remotely functional government?

As it is, Democrats won't be able to secure a veto-proof majority to ensure passage of a budget plan that doesn't include a wall, and Trump being a fucking dick with no intention to govern save where his narcissism is served by it will allow him to inflict as much pain as possible. You think any decent person will just stand by and be hyperpartisan?

[Duhon]

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Let's not be over dramatic here.

This shutdown won't end on Thursday, or the next week, or the week after that. Or if it does end early on, it'll be because Democrats would've caved in rather than allow that fucking dick with no sense of duty to grind government to a halt.

[San Lumen]

Let's not be over dramatic here.

This shutdown won't end on Thursday, or the next week, or the week after that. Or if it does end early on, it'll be because Democrats would've caved in rather than allow that fucking dick with no sense of duty to grind government to a halt.

Keep it closed. They should not vote to give one dime to the wall. Let trump shut down the economy. Even many republicans don’t want the wall

[Luminesa]

Let's not be over dramatic here.

This shutdown won't end on Thursday, or the next week, or the week after that. Or if it does end early on, it'll be because Democrats would've caved in rather than allow that fucking dick with no sense of duty to grind government to a halt.

It'll eventually end. Either people will realize the GoFundMe for the wall is a scam, or they'll give this dude the money and they'll realize then that it's a scam. Or someone will give.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Trump has affirmed: government isn't opening until he gets his border wall.

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Damn, this reads like the opening to an action movie.

[Tarsonis]

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Damn, this reads like the opening to an action movie.

Or the history of the Great Wall of China

[San Lumen]

This shutdown won't end on Thursday, or the next week, or the week after that. Or if it does end early on, it'll be because Democrats would've caved in rather than allow that fucking dick with no sense of duty to grind government to a halt.

It'll eventually end. Either people will realize the GoFundMe for the wall is a scam, or they'll give this dude the money and they'll realize then that it's a scam. Or someone will give.

No democrats should not cave. Trump started it let him finish it

[West Leas Oros 2]

Damn, this reads like the opening to an action movie.

Or the history of the Great Wall of China

It also reminds me of a dystopian novel a la 1984, except a bit more lazily written.

[Northern Davincia]

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

If the Democrats cave in to Trump's demands, then they will also lose their credibility as a party.

More than they already have?

[San Lumen]

If the Democrats cave in to Trump's demands, then they will also lose their credibility as a party.

More than they already have?

The government should stay closed until Trump gives up on his stupid wall. Not one penny should go to it

[Dogmeat]

Or the history of the Great Wall of China

It also reminds me of a dystopian novel a la 1984, except a bit more lazily written.

It was a day in Spring-ish, and the clocks struck noon.

[Northern Davincia]

Trump has affirmed: government isn't opening until he gets his border wall.

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

I thought the main criticism is that the wall won't work. Are you lamenting the wall possibly working too well?

More than they already have?

The government should stay closed until Trump gives up on his stupid wall. Not one penny should go to it

I quite like the idea of the government staying closed forever.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I thought the main criticism is that the wall won't work. Are you lamenting the wall possibly working too well?

You will find that not all opponents of the wall are a hive mind who have the same arguments for disliking it.

[San Lumen]

And Democrats will cave and Trump will have his Fortress America, ready to gun down every human being and every butterfly on sight.

What a wonderfully bloody Christmas message -- a wall, built with the bones and strengthened with the blood of countless innocents.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

I thought the main criticism is that the wall won't work. Are you lamenting the wall possibly working too well?

The government should stay closed until Trump gives up on his stupid wall. Not one penny should go to it

I quite like the idea of the government staying closed forever.

Enjoy all planes being grounded when ATC goes on strike or there is a huge accident at a factory or environmental disaster because no one checked safety regulations. And that’s just the beginning. Maybe then his cult like following will wake up