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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:38 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
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Just need to draw enough Indies away from him as to make his re-election unlikely. Trump himself is helping in this cause by only pandering to the Republican base and not really doing any outreach or attempting to use conciliatory language.


Trump isn’t going to pick any body up but the Democrats are wasting no time driving indies right to him


Hard to say for now, but I don't think the Indies will go to Trump so much as they'll look around and go "well fuck" and as we move farther away from the report, they'll inch back as the political stage calms itself down in the coming months.

And while the party itself may (or may not) be alienating them, that doesn't necessarily mean their presidential candidates are. Considering the prominence of split ticket voting in recent cycles, I think the electorate is intelligent enough to distinguish between the two.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:46 pm



What if they want statehood?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:54 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Just need to draw enough Indies away from him as to make his re-election unlikely. Trump himself is helping in this cause by only pandering to the Republican base and not really doing any outreach or attempting to use conciliatory language.


Trump isn’t going to pick any body up but the Democrats are wasting no time driving indies right to him

Is this based on polling or the usual use of 'independents' and 'moderates' as a way to bolster personal opinions with no real substance behind it?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:15 pm

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Just give them independence already.


What if they want statehood?

Statehood is the best option.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:19 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
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What if they want statehood?

Statehood is the best option.


I've no problem with them being the 51st state. donnie won't like it though. Probably more then a few repubs as well.
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Postby Bahktar » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:12 am

Puerto Rico certainly deserves to have a binding referendum on statehood that would make Congress issue resolution to accept Puerto Rico as the 51st state.

Either way, I would say it's clear that the Barr Report should be taken with a grain of salt and that the actual reports needs to be released to the public for a full picture of what happened, which would also go a way of restoring faith in the US government.

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Postby Confederate States of German America » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:13 am

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:20 am

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Just give them independence already.


Agreed.


Even though what they democratically voted for was statehood?
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:21 am

Vassenor wrote:
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Agreed.


Even though what they democratically voted for was statehood?


You're not the one normally worried about what people democratically vote for, why now?

Fits your views huh?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:23 am

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:
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Even though what they democratically voted for was statehood?


You're not the one normally worried about what people democratically vote for, why now?

Fits your views huh?


Oh hey, a random attempt at a NO U rather than actually addressing the point.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:35 am

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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:45 am



I knew this was going to backfire eventually.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:51 am



I thought Trump just signed an EO saying it was a bad thing and not allowed.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:53 am

Vassenor wrote:
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I thought no-platforming was a perfectly fine thing?


I thought Trump just signed an EO saying it was a bad thing and not allowed.


No no, he said it was bad when done to his side.

Ya know, the thing you're doing right now.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:11 am

Also I see that the standard response is once again to try and NO U rather than actually discuss the points made.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:20 am

Vassenor wrote:Also I see that the standard response is once again to try and NO U rather than actually discuss the points made.


People do love to call out hypocrisy and you are brimming with it.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:28 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also I see that the standard response is once again to try and NO U rather than actually discuss the points made.


People do love to call out hypocrisy and you are brimming with it.


You mind actually demonstrating that then?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:37 am

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:18 am


So the 1st Amendment is optional when the federal government no-platforms people you want shut up then?
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:40 am

Gormwood wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I thought no-platforming was a perfectly fine thing?

So the 1st Amendment is optional when the federal government no-platforms people you want shut up then?


No. Trumps wrong here. But it is amusing to see those who actively call for the deplatforming of their ideological opponents, get upset over being the target of calls for deplatforming. It's almost like we've been warning the left of that this whole time, and they still haven't figured it out yet.
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Postby Myrensis » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:43 am

Please let's not indulge the attempt to equate dumb college students with no office or political power or influence shouting down or rejecting speakers on their campuses with the President of the United States telling the major media outlets that if they want access to his campaign they better blacklist people who hurt his widdle feefees.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:46 am

Valrifell wrote:
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Just give them independence already.


What if they want statehood?


What if the rest of America doesn't want them to have statehood? We have a say in this too you know.
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