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Postby Ifreann » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:20 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You seem to be doing a lot of extrapolation from that sentence.


Just seeing where this will inevitably go.

Just speculating, wildly, based on...did Maxine Waters even say that?
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:23 am

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Tarsonis wrote:
Just seeing where this will inevitably go.

Just speculating, wildly, based on...did Maxine Waters even say that?

The Internet seems to be obsessed with the meme that Democrats will fail spectacularly at anything they try even as simple as pouring milk over cereal.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Just seeing where this will inevitably go.

Just speculating, wildly, based on...did Maxine Waters even say that?


Yes it is speculation. I'm predicting what will happen. We'll see if I'm right or not.

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Postby Zapato » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:32 am

Tarsonis wrote:Maxine Waters doubling down, "This isn't the end of anything." So unsatisfied with the 2 year long investigation run by Mueller, Democrats are going to launch their own, no doubt completely objective and non-partisan, investigation into Trump.


Surrendering 2020 early it seems.

Wait, did the Bengazi hearings lead to Republicans surrendering 2016?


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Postby Vassenor » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:41 am

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Ifreann wrote:Just speculating, wildly, based on...did Maxine Waters even say that?

The Internet seems to be obsessed with the meme that Democrats will fail spectacularly at anything they try even as simple as pouring milk over cereal.


The Democratic Party just existing has supposedly guaranteed Trump's 2020 victory.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:44 am

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Ifreann wrote:Just speculating, wildly, based on...did Maxine Waters even say that?

The Internet seems to be obsessed with the meme that Democrats will fail spectacularly at anything they try even as simple as pouring milk over cereal.


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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:59 am

quote="Gormwood";p="35484087"]
Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Maxine Waters doubling down, "This isn't the end of anything." So unsatisfied with the 2 year long investigation run by Mueller, Democrats are going to launch their own, no doubt completely objective and non-partisan, investigation into Trump.


Surrendering 2020 early it seems.

You seem to be doing a lot of extrapolation from that sentence.

It's not like an AG picked by Trump with a written history of denouncing the special counsel as well as burying a previous scandal in the watch of a Republican President would have any reason to try and muffle the resulting report, right?[/quote]

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Postby Gormwood » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:10 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Gormwood wrote:It's not like an AG picked by Trump with a written history of denouncing the special counsel as well as burying a previous scandal in the watch of a Republican President would have any reason to try and muffle the resulting report, right?


I love the smell of desperation in the morning

Lot more desperate than impeaching a President over lying about an affair after a special counsel investigation into a real estate deal turned up nothing as well as multiple hearings on a consulate attack that turned up nothing also I take it?
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:15 am

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Tarsonis wrote:
I love the smell of desperation in the morning

Lot more desperate than impeaching a President over lying about an affair after a special counsel investigation into a real estate deal turned up nothing as well as multiple hearings on a consulate attack that turned up nothing also I take it?


It is. Spent two years on this, staking a considerable part of the platform on it, and now that it didn’t go their favor, Democrats are desperate to spin this anyway they can. There’s no evidence that Barr is lying, and considering the report will inevitably go public, it’d be quite ill advised for him to lie.

Occupy Democrats is desperately trying to spin this as “fixed,” and I’m seeing that narrative parroted on far left social media,but the reality it the investigation flopped.
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:16 am



So, uh, just a reminder that Trump's a shitty president and no amount of investigations will help his re-election chances.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:16 am

Valrifell wrote:


So, uh, just a reminder that Trump's a shitty president and no amount of investigations will help his re-election chances.


I imagine that’s what y’all thought this time in 2015
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:17 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Lot more desperate than impeaching a President over lying about an affair after a special counsel investigation into a real estate deal turned up nothing as well as multiple hearings on a consulate attack that turned up nothing also I take it?


It is. Spent two years on this, staking a considerable part of the platform on it, and now that it didn’t go their favor, Democrats are desperate to spin this anyway they can. There’s no evidence that Barr is lying, and considering the report will inevitably go public, it’d be quite ill advised for him to lie.

Occupy Democrats is desperately trying to spin this as “fixed,” and I’m seeing that narrative parroted on far left social media,but the reality it the investigation flopped.

Apart from all the people sent to prison for their crimes, of course.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:18 am

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Medwind wrote:typical leftwinger : anti freespeech.


There is no free speech on NationStates.


There’s plenty, the general rule of thumb is don’t attack players. Keep to that rule and you can get away with saying quite a lot.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:18 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
It is. Spent two years on this, staking a considerable part of the platform on it, and now that it didn’t go their favor, Democrats are desperate to spin this anyway they can. There’s no evidence that Barr is lying, and considering the report will inevitably go public, it’d be quite ill advised for him to lie.

Occupy Democrats is desperately trying to spin this as “fixed,” and I’m seeing that narrative parroted on far left social media,but the reality it the investigation flopped.

Apart from all the people sent to prison for their crimes, of course.


Small consolidation I guess.
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Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
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Postby Ism » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:20 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
It is. Spent two years on this, staking a considerable part of the platform on it, and now that it didn’t go their favor, Democrats are desperate to spin this anyway they can. There’s no evidence that Barr is lying, and considering the report will inevitably go public, it’d be quite ill advised for him to lie.

Occupy Democrats is desperately trying to spin this as “fixed,” and I’m seeing that narrative parroted on far left social media,but the reality it the investigation flopped.

Apart from all the people sent to prison for their crimes, of course.


Only the Trump administration/campaign could be investigated, have that investigation result in multiple felony convictions and then have said investigation unironically dismissed as a flop.

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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:23 am

Ism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Apart from all the people sent to prison for their crimes, of course.


Only the Trump administration/campaign could be investigated, have that investigation result in multiple felony convictions and then have said investigation unironically dismissed as a flop.


Considering
A. They went to prison for crimes not related to the election.
B. The left would likely be willing to trade all those convictions for something on Trump.
C. Trump gets to solidify his base and act like he’s completely exonerated.

Yeah it’s a political flop.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:25 am

Vassenor wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The Internet seems to be obsessed with the meme that Democrats will fail spectacularly at anything they try even as simple as pouring milk over cereal.


The Democratic Party just existing has supposedly guaranteed Trump's 2020 victory.


I think you underestimate how colossally this is a fail for the democrats
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:26 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Ism wrote:
Only the Trump administration/campaign could be investigated, have that investigation result in multiple felony convictions and then have said investigation unironically dismissed as a flop.


Considering
A. They went to prison for crimes not related to the election.
B. The left would likely be willing to trade all those convictions for something on Trump.
C. Trump gets to solidify his base and act like he’s completely exonerated.

Yeah it’s a political flop.

Convicting actual criminals for actual crimes is a partisan issue now.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:26 am

Zapato wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Maxine Waters doubling down, "This isn't the end of anything." So unsatisfied with the 2 year long investigation run by Mueller, Democrats are going to launch their own, no doubt completely objective and non-partisan, investigation into Trump.


Surrendering 2020 early it seems.

Wait, did the Bengazi hearings lead to Republicans surrendering 2016?



That’s a fair point but I’d argue the conditions are different
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:28 am

Ism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Apart from all the people sent to prison for their crimes, of course.


Only the Trump administration/campaign could be investigated, have that investigation result in multiple felony convictions and then have said investigation unironically dismissed as a flop.

Multiple associates convicted or pleaded over lying about contact with Russia despite no evidence of collusion as well as various financial crimes while Trump himself is not directly implicated. Little wonder there's rumors that SDNY might be treating the Trump Organization as a RICO investigation.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:30 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
So, uh, just a reminder that Trump's a shitty president and no amount of investigations will help his re-election chances.


I imagine that’s what y’all thought this time in 2015


Previous electoral evidence also indicates he's a weaker incumbent than most and than as your presenting.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:31 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Zapato wrote:Wait, did the Bengazi hearings lead to Republicans surrendering 2016?



That’s a fair point but I’d argue the conditions are different


You're right, we might find something on Trump.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:32 am

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Not surprising Trump would nominate someone to a position they’re entirely unqualified for.

There was a SNL skit about that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u-w5wbu7GBE
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