MAGAThread XV: Because Another

[Thuzbekistan]

So that's a no, you're not here to contribute anything mature and rational. And possibly never were.

Dude, you just don't want to accept the facts. The world dosen't work the way you want, you can't just *BELIEVE* the collusion into reality. I mean, just what EXACTLY are you debating here?

This is a discussion thread for all things trump. Currently, the topic of discussion is Mueller and his report and how much it exonerates or exposes the president.

[Medwind]

Double posting, but fuck it. *Sees MAGA thread* *Goes to most recent page* *Sees not one good thing said about Trump, leftists bashing him, rhinos bashing him, "moron this, scandal that, indictment this, bully that, economy is collapsing, sky is falling, (and bunch of pics of Satan as well, for some reason, maybe leftists supporting their god idk)" Lmao, what should I have expected from this liberal cesspit of a site.

Bruh, did you have to hit every branch on the way down the stupid tree? Rhinos is a horrible name for moderate Republicans too. It's like the tea party just said "ah screw it. Those guys that compromise to keep the government running like good politicians? Screw them." And the devil thing was a joke. No one said the economy was collapsing . Everyone just happens to think the man is really dumb.

Nonsense, people here really do think the economy is failing, are you not reading this? Satan is not a joke. And yes your right, Rhino isn't a good name for them, scum is what I prefer, personally.


Edit: I thought Rhino would be more PC for this crowd.

[Thuzbekistan]

That's not the topic of this thread or I'd laugh more.

Yeah & I'll be laughing too one day m8.

Very Christian of you to laugh at the prospect of your fellow man burning forever in hell.

Ah but oh well.

[Thuzbekistan]

Bruh, did you have to hit every branch on the way down the stupid tree? Rhinos is a horrible name for moderate Republicans too. It's like the tea party just said "ah screw it. Those guys that compromise to keep the government running like good politicians? Screw them." And the devil thing was a joke. No one said the economy was collapsing . Everyone just happens to think the man is really dumb.

Nonsense, people here really do think the economy is failing, are you not reading this? Satan is not a joke. And yes your right, Rhino isn't a good name for them, scum is what I prefer, personally.


Edit: I thought Rhino would be more PC for this crowd.

The term is RINO (Republicans in name only) but I'll leave you be, mate

[Medwind]

Yeah & I'll be laughing too one day m8.

Very Christian of you to laugh at the prospect of your fellow man burning forever in hell.

Ah but oh well.

It isn't, I'm not a good Christian dude. When I tried to give a bit of warning you told me how funny you think it is. It's insulting to me. Shit is real whether you like it or not. And, yes, I probably will laugh at you a bit for your stupidity if I make it in.

[Bombadil]

Bruh, did you have to hit every branch on the way down the stupid tree? Rhinos is a horrible name for moderate Republicans too. It's like the tea party just said "ah screw it. Those guys that compromise to keep the government running like good politicians? Screw them." And the devil thing was a joke. No one said the economy was collapsing . Everyone just happens to think the man is really dumb.

Nonsense, people here really do think the economy is failing, are you not reading this? Satan is not a joke. And yes your right, Rhino isn't a good name for them, scum is what I prefer, personally.

At what point are you going to refute the economic indicators with evidence. Even if not, care to refute why throwing up tariffs, lowering taxes while ballooning the deficit is good economic strategy?

Failing that.. why Satan is real, and whether or not he's better than Trump?

[Medwind]

Nonsense, people here really do think the economy is failing, are you not reading this? Satan is not a joke. And yes your right, Rhino isn't a good name for them, scum is what I prefer, personally.


Edit: I thought Rhino would be more PC for this crowd.

The term is RINO (Republicans in name only) but I'll leave you be, mate

Ah, yes, semantics, sooo important, thank you m8.

[Medwind]

Nonsense, people here really do think the economy is failing, are you not reading this? Satan is not a joke. And yes your right, Rhino isn't a good name for them, scum is what I prefer, personally.

At what point are you going to refute the economic indicators with evidence. Even if not, care to refute why throwing up tariffs, lowering taxes while ballooning the deficit is good economic strategy?

Failing that.. why Satan is real, and whether or not he's better than Trump?

Lowering taxes = increased growth, tariffs = us saying fuck Globalism big pluses in my book, I'm sick of relying on foreign goods, I'm sick of American producers not being able to compete with foreign sweat shops. Tired of you guys talking about your Lord & savior so much, you don't even realize it.

[Thuzbekistan]

At what point are you going to refute the economic indicators with evidence. Even if not, care to refute why throwing up tariffs, lowering taxes while ballooning the deficit is good economic strategy?

Failing that.. why Satan is real, and whether or not he's better than Trump?

Lowering taxes = increased growth, tariffs = us saying fuck Globalism big pluses in my book, I'm sick of relying on foreign goods, I'm sick of American producers not being able to compete with foreign sweat shops. Tired of you guys talking about your Lord & savior so much, you don't even realize it.

We dont actually rely on foreign goods. We make them overseas because it is cheaper to do so. These are American companies doing that. By allowing this, we ultimately make things better for the consumer with cheaper products. This also gives our economy the room and incentive it needs to adapt and become more competitive.

[Bombadil]

At what point are you going to refute the economic indicators with evidence. Even if not, care to refute why throwing up tariffs, lowering taxes while ballooning the deficit is good economic strategy?

Failing that.. why Satan is real, and whether or not he's better than Trump?

Lowering taxes = increased growth, tariffs = us saying fuck Globalism big pluses in my book, I'm sick of relying on foreign goods, I'm sick of American producers not being able to compete with foreign sweat shops. Tired of you guys talking about your Lord & savior so much, you don't even realize it.

At least Bush took 8 years to crash the economy.. Trump's achieving it in under 4..

Satan plays a mean violin.

[RiderSyl]

At what point are you going to refute the economic indicators with evidence. Even if not, care to refute why throwing up tariffs, lowering taxes while ballooning the deficit is good economic strategy?

Failing that.. why Satan is real, and whether or not he's better than Trump?

Lowering taxes = increased growth, tariffs = us saying fuck Globalism big pluses in my book, I'm sick of relying on foreign goods, I'm sick of American producers not being able to compete with foreign sweat shops. Tired of you guys talking about your Lord & savior so much, you don't even realize it.

You're using feels over facts. Check the deficit.

[Medwind]

Lowering taxes = increased growth, tariffs = us saying fuck Globalism big pluses in my book, I'm sick of relying on foreign goods, I'm sick of American producers not being able to compete with foreign sweat shops. Tired of you guys talking about your Lord & savior so much, you don't even realize it.

We dont actually rely on foreign goods. We make them overseas because it is cheaper to do so. These are American companies doing that. By allowing this, we ultimately make things better for the consumer with cheaper products. This also gives our economy the room and incentive it needs to adapt and become more competitive.

We do rely on foreign goods, not just imported, but as you said, produced by foreigners. How is that American? Btw, you could have just told me I was invading your safe space dude, I would have left, reporting me and fallaciously accusing me of trolling is bs. These are my honest opinions, trolling is used to intentionally bait people, which was not the case, you just got upset about someone saying something you didn't agree with. I would have stopped just to avoid the hassel, typical leftwinger : anti freespeech.

I'm done now, have fun in your echo chamber.
Don't reply to me, I won't write back.

[RiderSyl]

typical leftwinger : anti freespeech.

There is no free speech on NationStates.

[Thuzbekistan]

It can be contributed to, or negatively affected by governmental policies, mainly taxes, and government spending.
Edit: oc this is a very simplified view, much more goes into it.

But somehow as if by magic Trump can only be responsible for the boom and not the bust.

If trump gets a second term, he will get the responsibility for the bust. If hes out of office, the next president will be in much the same position Hoover was in.

Edit: can you believe it's been 11 years since the great recession started? Time bloody flies

[Autumn Wind]

Satan plays a mean violin.

I’m pretty sure the song said fiddle, but ok.

[Bombadil]

Satan plays a mean violin.

I’m pretty sure the song said fiddle, but ok.

Pfft..

One night, in the year 1713 I dreamed I had made a pact with the devil for my soul. Everything went as I wished: my new servant anticipated my every desire. Among other things, I gave him my violin to see if he could play. How great was my astonishment on hearing a sonata so wonderful and so beautiful, played with such great art and intelligence, as I had never even conceived in my boldest flights of fantasy. I felt enraptured, transported, enchanted: my breath failed me, and I awoke. I immediately grasped my violin in order to retain, in part at least, the impression of my dream. In vain! The music which I at this time composed is indeed the best that I ever wrote, and I still call it the "Devil's Trill", but the difference between it and that which so moved me is so great that I would have destroyed my instrument and have said farewell to music forever if it had been possible for me to live without the enjoyment it affords me

Know ye not of Violin Sonata in G minor by Tartini?

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Nor did I until I googled to justify my post..

[Knask]

At what point are you going to refute the economic indicators with evidence. Even if not, care to refute why throwing up tariffs, lowering taxes while ballooning the deficit is good economic strategy?

Failing that.. why Satan is real, and whether or not he's better than Trump?

Lowering taxes = increased growth, tariffs = us saying fuck Globalism big pluses in my book, I'm sick of relying on foreign goods, I'm sick of American producers not being able to compete with foreign sweat shops. Tired of you guys talking about your Lord & savior so much, you don't even realize it.

Man, this anti-capitalist behavior is borderline un-american.

[Zurkerx]

Perhaps innocence of direct collusion with Russia will be all he has left to cling to..

The market action on Monday was a response to the biggest losses in US shares since the beginning of January on Friday when the Dow Jones sank 1.8%, the S&P 500 was off 1.9 percent and the Nasdaq dropped 2.5%.

Concerns about the health of the world economy heightened last week after remarks by the US Federal Reserve indicated that it would not raise interest rates this year. The comments confirmed to analysts that the Fed has backflipped on its hawkish policy of the past year when it hiked rates four times and is now more pessimistic about the outlook for the US economy.

Adding to the fears of a more widespread global downturn, manufacturing output data from Germany on Friday showed a contraction for the third straight month.

In response, US 10-year treasury yields slipped below the three-month rate for the first time since 2007 as nervous investors ploughed their money into the safe haven of bonds rather than riskier assets such as shares.

This so-called inversion of the of the bond yield curve – where long-term rates fall below short-term – has predicted every recession for the past 60 years. It is a function of bond markets that the return, or yield, falls when the price of the bond rises.

Yeah, it's not a good sign. My dad, who's a banker, said that's not a good sign either. I suspect we'll see a recession within 18-36 months if this progresses. Now, is Trump fully to blame? No, of course not; economies go through natural cycles and are forces that can't be entirely controlled. However, one's policies can either create growth, extend economic growth, speed up a recession, or prolong a recession. In Trump's case, I would argue the lowering of the income and corporate taxes and deregulation has extended the economic growth we're currently having, prolonging the inevitable recession that's bound to strike us. However, the ballooning deficit, increased spending, and trade wars/tariffs are catching up.

In the end, economics is a balancing act; it's main goal is to find equilibrium and try to find equal stable ground as best as possible.

[Valrifell]

Considering the economy is arguably the only thing buoying the president (and inarguably a significant factor) it doesn't bode well that the economy looks to be slowing down, particularly when it looks as though the real "fun" starts towards the beginning of campaign season.

I also don't think the GOP economoc philosophy is well equipped to adequately deal with recession, so he'll probably make everything worse somehow.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Considering the economy is arguably the only thing buoying the president (and inarguably a significant factor) it doesn't bode well that the economy looks to be slowing down, particularly when it looks as though the real "fun" starts towards the beginning of campaign season.

I also don't think the GOP economoc philosophy is well equipped to adequately deal with recession, so he'll probably make everything worse somehow.

He is.

Economic booms require heightened taxation in order to stop the economic engine from overheating. A big boom means a big drop afterwards, so a responsible politician would increase taxes during a boom. This brings in a lot of tax revenue, which can be used to build infrastructure and invest in the economy during an economic bust. The taxes can also be lowered, which leaves individual households more to spend, lowering the impact the bust has.

Trump is doing the opposite, almost as if he is trying to make it worse. He lowered taxes during a boom, meaning the economic engine will overheat faster. When the bust inevitably happens, the taxes have nowhere to go but up, and the government will have no money to invest in the economy. The Trump Boom will be followed by a horrendous Trump Bust. Deregulation has only helped to increase those chances.

[Tarsonis]

Maxine Waters doubling down, "This isn't the end of anything." So unsatisfied with the 2 year long investigation run by Mueller, Democrats are going to launch their own, no doubt completely objective and non-partisan, investigation into Trump.


Surrendering 2020 early it seems.

[Proctopeo]

Maxine Waters doubling down, "This isn't the end of anything." So unsatisfied with the 2 year long investigation run by Mueller, Democrats are going to launch their own, no doubt completely objective and non-partisan, investigation into Trump.


Surrendering 2020 early it seems.

"recent DNC-funded investigation suggests Donald Trump did 9/11"

[Ifreann]

Maxine Waters doubling down, "This isn't the end of anything." So unsatisfied with the 2 year long investigation run by Mueller, Democrats are going to launch their own, no doubt completely objective and non-partisan, investigation into Trump.


Surrendering 2020 early it seems.

You seem to be doing a lot of extrapolation from that sentence.

[Gormwood]

Maxine Waters doubling down, "This isn't the end of anything." So unsatisfied with the 2 year long investigation run by Mueller, Democrats are going to launch their own, no doubt completely objective and non-partisan, investigation into Trump.


Surrendering 2020 early it seems.

You seem to be doing a lot of extrapolation from that sentence.

It's not like an AG picked by Trump with a written history of denouncing the special counsel as well as burying a previous scandal in the watch of a Republican President would have any reason to try and muffle the resulting report, right?

[Tarsonis]

Maxine Waters doubling down, "This isn't the end of anything." So unsatisfied with the 2 year long investigation run by Mueller, Democrats are going to launch their own, no doubt completely objective and non-partisan, investigation into Trump.


Surrendering 2020 early it seems.

You seem to be doing a lot of extrapolation from that sentence.

Just seeing where this will inevitably go. Democrats are going to keep investing, and the republicans actually have ammunition now to paint the investigations as partisan motivated. By 2020 the republicans will be able to run the table. Trumps primary challenge is going to fizzle. Kasich is out for good. Weld’s exploratory committee is gonna fade.

Trump will be the Candiate in 2020, and all he has to do is roll over whichever democrat gets the nomination, as tearing down the institutions of the United States for partisan gain. Corruption, pre-lude to socialism, hell could even paint them as the true fascists.


What the Democrats are doing, at least as how I suspect the Republicans will spin it, is showing that their abandoning all pretense of good faith or good will and are purely engaged in abuse of power.