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Postby Confederate States of German America » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:01 pm

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Except we're not talking about that, we're talking about global reaction to a change in domestic immigration policy. With regards to the specifics of the matter, you're very much out of step with the times; 63% of French say there is too many foreigners in their nation, 38% of Germans list immigration as their biggest concern and it tops the list of total concerns. It's no longer just the United States or nations like Poland.

Rather I was talking about responding to chickenshit xenophobia with fratboy glee as a matter of policy, but whatever makes you feel better about it.


And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:04 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Rather I was talking about responding to chickenshit xenophobia with fratboy glee as a matter of policy, but whatever makes you feel better about it.


And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.

I'm sure fascists in the 1930s thought the same thing.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:21 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.

I'm sure fascists in the 1930s thought the same thing.


I've yet to see you offer a rebuttal, which is telling.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:22 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.

I'm sure fascists in the 1930s thought the same thing.


I'm sure communists in the 1980s thought the same thing.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:23 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Rather I was talking about responding to chickenshit xenophobia with fratboy glee as a matter of policy, but whatever makes you feel better about it.


And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.


I didn't know the US, the UK and Brazil was "international standard".
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:24 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.


I didn't know the US, the UK and Brazil was "international standard".


Include all of East Asia, good portions of mainland Europe, Australia, the Middle East and probably other places to that list.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:24 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.


I didn't know the US, the UK and Brazil was "international standard".


And also Russia, China, the Middle East, and Japan.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:24 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.


I didn't know the US, the UK and Brazil was "international standard".


How convenient of you to forget Europe’s rising far-right movements.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:25 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I didn't know the US, the UK and Brazil was "international standard".


How convenient of you to forget Europe’s rising far-right movements.


Or the fact that most of Asia, Africa, and the Middle East are incredibly xenophobic.

That's a majority of the world's population right there.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:25 pm

>> when an increasingly globalized world is cited as evidence of xenophobia

lol, okay.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:25 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I didn't know the US, the UK and Brazil was "international standard".


And also Russia, China, the Middle East, and Japan.


So we're up to maybe a dozen countries out of around 200.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:27 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm sure fascists in the 1930s thought the same thing.


I've yet to see you offer a rebuttal, which is telling.

We still in that thousand year Reich? The fact that an idea was temporarily popular didn't turn out to be the standard? Two polls that don't really excuse an approach to foreign policy that sounds like it's followed by someone smashing a beer can on their head? Yeah, this is a winning argument. Really need to trot out the big guns for this one.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:28 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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And also Russia, China, the Middle East, and Japan.


So we're up to maybe a dozen countries out of around 200.


Only raw number of countries count?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:28 pm

Telconi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So we're up to maybe a dozen countries out of around 200.


Only raw number of countries count?


Yeah, that's a weird metric.

I mean I guess Vanuatu is tolerant, but like, cool.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:29 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
And as I just pointed out, xenophobia is now the international standard. It must really suck to know the verdict of history is not what you thought it would be.


I didn't know the US, the UK and Brazil was "international standard".


Confederate States of German America wrote:Except we're not talking about that, we're talking about global reaction to a change in domestic immigration policy. With regards to the specifics of the matter, you're very much out of step with the times; 63% of French say there is too many foreigners in their nation, 38% of Germans list immigration as their biggest concern and it tops the list of total concerns. It's no longer just the United States or nations like Poland.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:29 pm

Telconi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So we're up to maybe a dozen countries out of around 200.


Only raw number of countries count?


If you're trying to establish something as a standard, it kind of is.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:30 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Only raw number of countries count?


If you're trying to establish something as a standard, it kind of is.

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:55 pm



But CM, other people are doing it! That means my shitty views are justified and I can be smug and dunk on the liberals!
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:13 pm

Julian Raven, the artist behind the painted 8-foot tall, 14-foot wide portrait of President Donald Trump that was seen at CPAC 2019, is suing the Smithsonian for not displaying his mammoth artwork, claiming it’s a violation of his First Amendment rights.

The artist has been involved for years in an ongoing legal battle to get this bad (and I do mean bad) boy on the wall of a Smithsonian museum. He lost a case in D.C.’s U.S. District Court, but he’s apparently planning on taking the matter as far as he has to in order to get his portrait placed, “I have this incredible, unprecedented case that may go all the way to the Supreme Court.” Yikes.

The painting, which is titled, “Unafraid & Unashamed,” all began as an idea Raven had in 2015 when he saw Trump campaigning for president on TV. He said, “I just had the words go through my mind: ‘unafraid and unashamed.’ The image in my mind was this soaring flagpole, a U.S. flag pole falling to the ground. Right before it falls to the ground, an eagle swoops in and snatches it.” Also, it’s set in space.


So far the rights of The Smithsonian to refuse paintings on the grounds ‘it’s not very good’ have been upheld.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:14 pm

Bombadil wrote:Julian Raven, the artist behind the painted 8-foot tall, 14-foot wide portrait of President Donald Trump that was seen at CPAC 2019, is suing the Smithsonian for not displaying his mammoth artwork, claiming it’s a violation of his First Amendment rights.

The artist has been involved for years in an ongoing legal battle to get this bad (and I do mean bad) boy on the wall of a Smithsonian museum. He lost a case in D.C.’s U.S. District Court, but he’s apparently planning on taking the matter as far as he has to in order to get his portrait placed, “I have this incredible, unprecedented case that may go all the way to the Supreme Court.” Yikes.

The painting, which is titled, “Unafraid & Unashamed,” all began as an idea Raven had in 2015 when he saw Trump campaigning for president on TV. He said, “I just had the words go through my mind: ‘unafraid and unashamed.’ The image in my mind was this soaring flagpole, a U.S. flag pole falling to the ground. Right before it falls to the ground, an eagle swoops in and snatches it.” Also, it’s set in space.


So far the rights of The Smithsonian to refuse paintings on the grounds ‘it’s not very good’ have been upheld.

Clearly it is the liberals who are entitled participation trophy shits.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:28 pm

Bombadil wrote:Julian Raven, the artist behind the painted 8-foot tall, 14-foot wide portrait of President Donald Trump that was seen at CPAC 2019, is suing the Smithsonian for not displaying his mammoth artwork, claiming it’s a violation of his First Amendment rights.

The artist has been involved for years in an ongoing legal battle to get this bad (and I do mean bad) boy on the wall of a Smithsonian museum. He lost a case in D.C.’s U.S. District Court, but he’s apparently planning on taking the matter as far as he has to in order to get his portrait placed, “I have this incredible, unprecedented case that may go all the way to the Supreme Court.” Yikes.

The painting, which is titled, “Unafraid & Unashamed,” all began as an idea Raven had in 2015 when he saw Trump campaigning for president on TV. He said, “I just had the words go through my mind: ‘unafraid and unashamed.’ The image in my mind was this soaring flagpole, a U.S. flag pole falling to the ground. Right before it falls to the ground, an eagle swoops in and snatches it.” Also, it’s set in space.


So far the rights of The Smithsonian to refuse paintings on the grounds ‘it’s not very good’ have been upheld.


People still pretending that 1A requires institutions give them a platform?
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:32 pm

Bombadil wrote:Julian Raven, the artist behind the painted 8-foot tall, 14-foot wide portrait of President Donald Trump that was seen at CPAC 2019, is suing the Smithsonian for not displaying his mammoth artwork, claiming it’s a violation of his First Amendment rights.

The artist has been involved for years in an ongoing legal battle to get this bad (and I do mean bad) boy on the wall of a Smithsonian museum. He lost a case in D.C.’s U.S. District Court, but he’s apparently planning on taking the matter as far as he has to in order to get his portrait placed, “I have this incredible, unprecedented case that may go all the way to the Supreme Court.” Yikes.

The painting, which is titled, “Unafraid & Unashamed,” all began as an idea Raven had in 2015 when he saw Trump campaigning for president on TV. He said, “I just had the words go through my mind: ‘unafraid and unashamed.’ The image in my mind was this soaring flagpole, a U.S. flag pole falling to the ground. Right before it falls to the ground, an eagle swoops in and snatches it.” Also, it’s set in space.


So far the rights of The Smithsonian to refuse paintings on the grounds ‘it’s not very good’ have been upheld.


This is beyond stupid.

And I hate that part of me believes SCOTUS has a nonzero chance of agreeing with this guy.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:40 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
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It is your duty to pay taxes for your representation. Those taxes should be raised for everyone to make an even better America.


Tell me what portion of a persons income do you think you can fairly lay claim to, where's the limit?


Not up to me to decide.

But to improve America higher taxes to match the higher output is the most logical thing to do.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:41 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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Tell me what portion of a persons income do you think you can fairly lay claim to, where's the limit?


Not up to me to decide.

But to improve America higher taxes to match the higher output is the most logical thing to do.


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