MAGAThread XV: Because Another

[Valrifell]

Then you must have noticed that a lot in Trump, right? I mean, have you heard him in speeches? Even when he makes a perfectly understandable slip of the tongue he has to pretend like he meant it.

For someone who touts your education level so much, you really are shit at making deflections; they not teach rhetoric at your school?

Are you insecure about your education or something?

[Farnhamia]

For someone who touts your education level so much, you really are shit at making deflections; they not teach rhetoric at your school?

Are you insecure about your education or something?

Knock it off.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Nothing what you underlined means that Trump thinks 6G doesn't exist yet. He talks about them in the same sense. So, does he think that 5G hasn't been invented yet? or that 5G has?

1. 'Even 6G' doesn't mean anything
2. He could literally have either said 'right now' or 'as soon as possible', because 5G requires infrastructure to build.
3. Online shopping is also the future while it already exists. It's a phrase. Again, because those sentences pertain to both 5G and 6G, either he thinks both have yet to be invented, or both do not exist.

'Even' is the operative word here and if you refuse to recognise it you're just being deliberately obtuse for no reason whatsoever other than own the fash

"I want solar and even fusion power" does not mean you want fusion power right now.

Your example entirely depends on context. The only thing you can infer from your sentence is that someone wants solar and fusion power, and that fusion power is apparently harder to achieve.

"I want to increase sales taxes and even impose a 70% tax on the wealthiest Americans" does not indicate any preference between the two, other than that the second one is apparently viewed as more outlandish than the first one.

We were talking about a Trump tweet.

You said you somehow immediately sniff out when someone tries to cover up a fuck-up.

And I tell you that Trump is notoriously bad at that.

And I am deflecting?

Yes. Again, does your school not teach Rhetoric or are you just really bad at this?

When talking about the habits of a person, talking about the habits of that person is not deflection. I am still talking about the exact same topic.

[Amuaplye]

Are you insecure about your education or something?

Knock it off.

Scared me for a bit. Thought I was the one getting the warning until I read the quote.

[Valrifell]

Knock it off.

Scared me for a bit. Thought I was the one getting the warning until I read the quote.

No, just me.

[Confederate States of German America]

When talking about the habits of a person, talking about the habits of that person is not deflection. I am still talking about the exact same topic.

Except we're not talking about the same person and any reading of context would show that.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

When talking about the habits of a person, talking about the habits of that person is not deflection. I am still talking about the exact same topic.

Except we're not talking about the same person and any reading of context would show that.

So, what were you talking about in response to my post about Trump?

[Confederate States of German America]

Except we're not talking about the same person and any reading of context would show that.

So, what were you talking about in response to my post about Trump?

That you were deflecting with regards to the exact wording when called on it.

[Cannot think of a name]

So, what were you talking about in response to my post about Trump?

That you were deflecting with regards to the exact wording when called on it.

Jesus christ, dude. I know you dodged the mod slap for someone doing essentially the same thing but do you have a fucking relevant point to this or are you just going to needle the dude for six more pages?

[Bombadil]

I've no issue with Trump's 5G tweet but he doesn't do anything unless prompted and I wonder what prompted him on this. Personally I think it's nothing to do with the technology but a prelude to his China deal. Currently it's assumed Huawei is ahead on 5G and clearly he's pre-empting the fact he doesn't want to place restrictions on Huawei given he says he wants open competition.

I suspect it's mostly to appease his base for what will be a relatively limited trade deal with China.

[Cannot think of a name]

I've no issue with Trump's 5G tweet but he doesn't do anything unless prompted and I wonder what prompted him on this. Personally I think it's nothing to do with the technology but a prelude to his China deal. Currently it's assumed Huawei is ahead on 5G and clearly he's pre-empting the fact he doesn't want to place restrictions on Huawei given he says he wants open competition.

I suspect it's mostly to appease his base for what will be a relatively limited trade deal with China.

That makes a disturbing amount of sense.

[Bombadil]

Witness how FOX news turns the government shutdown into a massive win for government employees..

A furloughed National Park Service employee who purchased a lottery ticket just days before the government was partially shut down last year has come forward to claim her $29.5 million winnings, officials said Wednesday.

Judith Miller, who works at Fort Wadsworth in Staten Island, N.Y., as a park ranger, and her children were revealed as the winners of “the largest Pick-6 jackpot” in more than a decade, the New Jersey Lottery said in a news release.

Link

She might never have purchased that ticket if not for the idea she'd be going unpaid for a while.

God bless Trump!

[Confederate States of German America]

That you were deflecting with regards to the exact wording when called on it.

Jesus christ, dude. I know you dodged the mod slap for someone doing essentially the same thing but do you have a fucking relevant point to this or are you just going to needle the dude for six more pages?

Do tell.

[Neu Leonstein]

In which chapter of 'The Art of the Deal' does it say "embarrass your negotiator in front of the foreign delegation to the point where they laugh at the situation, while also undermining the thing that's been negotiated for the past few days"?

[Fartsniffage]

In which chapter of 'The Art of the Deal' does it say "embarrass your negotiator in front of the foreign delegation to the point where they laugh at the situation, while also undermining the thing that's been negotiated for the past few days"?

...He's a fucking idiot.

[Liriena]

In which chapter of 'The Art of the Deal' does it say "embarrass your negotiator in front of the foreign delegation to the point where they laugh at the situation, while also undermining the thing that's been negotiated for the past few days"?

I sure love that the most powerful man in the world is a know-nothing anti-intellectual who speaks about policy like a particularly arrogant toddler does.

[Conserative Morality]

In which chapter of 'The Art of the Deal' does it say "embarrass your negotiator in front of the foreign delegation to the point where they laugh at the situation, while also undermining the thing that's been negotiated for the past few days"?

I sure love that the most powerful man in the world is a know-nothing anti-intellectual who speaks about policy like a particularly arrogant toddler does.

That's why his base loves him.

[Liriena]

I sure love that the most powerful man in the world is a know-nothing anti-intellectual who speaks about policy like a particularly arrogant toddler does.

That's why his base loves him.

I do get the appeal. On the surface, it's easy to interpret it as a show of strength and practical, down-to-earth know-how, which I know appeals to a set of people who share that emotional state of needing to feel strong and project strength.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

That's why his base loves him.

I do get the appeal. On the surface, it's easy to interpret it as a show of strength and practical, down-to-earth know-how, which I know appeals to a set of people who share that emotional state of needing to feel strong and project strength.

He is a populist, which I like, but he populism’d completely wrong.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I do get the appeal. On the surface, it's easy to interpret it as a show of strength and practical, down-to-earth know-how, which I know appeals to a set of people who share that emotional state of needing to feel strong and project strength.

He is a populist, which I like, but he populism’d completely wrong.

Populism here meaning that he lied to the country in order to get elected, while never meaning to accomplish any of those goals.

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I do get the appeal. On the surface, it's easy to interpret it as a show of strength and practical, down-to-earth know-how, which I know appeals to a set of people who share that emotional state of needing to feel strong and project strength.

He is a populist, which I like, but he populism’d completely wrong.

He's a populist in his words, but not in his actions. He hasn't done even one damn thing to improve the lives of the disillusioned white people who helped elect him. He hasn't given them health care, he hasn't raised their wages, and in fact he has taken money from their pockets to give it to the ruling class.

You know why Trump focuses on so much on immigration? So he can trick Americans with no upward mobility into thinking they have something. You can't afford to go to the doctor, you will never get out of debt, your town is still economically stagnant and afflicted by opioid dependency, but you're an American, and that makes you wealthy. And you won't have to share the wealth of your citizenship with foreigners, because I'm going to build a wall. He's tricked people into thinking they're not being screwed over by the rich by selling them their own nationality and promising that outsiders will never get their hands on it.

And as for the swamp... What is the swamp if not Goldman Sachs, if not the military industrial complex, if not the Saudi aristocrats who leech American taxpayers' money? The great irony is that Trump serves the same masters Hillary would have served if she won.

[Valrifell]

I do get the appeal. On the surface, it's easy to interpret it as a show of strength and practical, down-to-earth know-how, which I know appeals to a set of people who share that emotional state of needing to feel strong and project strength.

He is a populist, which I like, but he populism’d completely wrong.

You can't populism wrong since populism is more of a rhetorical strategy than an ideology.

He is most definitively a populist.

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He is a populist, which I like, but he populism’d completely wrong.

You can't populism wrong since populism is more of a rhetorical strategy than an ideology.

He is most definitively a populist.

Populism is an ideology, but the content of populist ideology varies depending on the place and time. In present day America, a populist platform would include such things as legalizing cannabis, leaving Afghanistan, Medicare for All, and raising taxes on the ultra-rich. These are things a strong majority of Americans support. Populism is to appeal to people by promising to do the things they want done.

Further, a real populist would not do the bidding of the elites that a great majority of Americans hold in contempt.

[Valrifell]

You can't populism wrong since populism is more of a rhetorical strategy than an ideology.

He is most definitively a populist.

Populism is an ideology, but the content of populist ideology varies depending on the place and time.

These are quite literally mutually exclusive positions to hold.

It can't be an ideology (which almost by definition is self-consistent over time) and vary depending on the place and time.

A Marxist from 1920 would agree with a Marxist from 2019, so Marxism is an ideology. A Populist from 1920 and a Populist from 2019 would probably disagree, but they would have similar talking points and sound practically the same.

[Internationalist Bastard]

So apparently we’re not letting clinics talk about abortions now