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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:57 am

Vassenor wrote:
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Keeping the dems out of power is a good thing in and of itself.


Without mentioning guns or immigration, explain why.


This is about as stupid as asking someone to explain why keeping the GOP out of power is good without mentioning abortion or LGBT rights.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:02 am

Vassenor wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Keeping the dems out of power is a good thing in and of itself.


Without mentioning guns or immigration, explain why.


Their dismal understanding of the economy and their current shift to the far left.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:05 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Without mentioning guns or immigration, explain why.


Their dismal understanding of the economy and their current shift to the far left.


This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:06 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Their dismal understanding of the economy and their current shift to the far left.


This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.


At least the masks are off and they are proudly embracing the fact that they are commies these days.
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Postby Duhon » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:08 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.


At least the masks are off and they are proudly embracing the fact that they are commies these days.


To be against Trump is to be for communism. I mean what lol.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:10 am

Duhon wrote:
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At least the masks are off and they are proudly embracing the fact that they are commies these days.


To be against Trump is to be for communism. I mean what lol.


It's hardly a stranger statement than your usual "Trump is literally Adolf reborn!" diatribes, and when not insignificant portions of the party label themselves socialist it's not even super out of place.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:13 am

Duhon wrote:
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At least the masks are off and they are proudly embracing the fact that they are commies these days.


To be against Trump is to be for communism. I mean what lol.


Their commie leanings far predate Trump. :roll:
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Postby Duhon » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:24 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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To be against Trump is to be for communism. I mean what lol.


It's hardly a stranger statement than your usual "Trump is literally Adolf reborn!" diatribes, and when not insignificant portions of the party label themselves socialist it's not even super out of place.


I'm comparing Trump's authoritarianism to sHitler's, mind. I'm aware at this point in time that he's a dick to everyone.

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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:39 am

Duhon wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's hardly a stranger statement than your usual "Trump is literally Adolf reborn!" diatribes, and when not insignificant portions of the party label themselves socialist it's not even super out of place.


I'm comparing Trump's authoritarianism to sHitler's, mind. I'm aware at this point in time that he's a dick to everyone.


Too bad he's not been a dick to everyone. He's been quite good to the nation as a whole, and to people in general.

Of course, he has been a dick to quite a few, but from what I've seen, they have been deserving of it.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:42 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Without mentioning guns or immigration, explain why.


Their dismal understanding of the economy and their current shift to the far left.


You say that while Trumps terrifs would only end up harming American manufacturers and consumers.

"Far left" by American standards is normal center left just about anywhere else.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:44 am

Duhon wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
At least the masks are off and they are proudly embracing the fact that they are commies these days.


To be against Trump is to be for communism. I mean what lol.


You have to remember we're supposed to believe that treating people like actual human beings is bad now.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:45 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Their dismal understanding of the economy and their current shift to the far left.


You ssy that while Trumps terrifs would only end up harming American manufacturers and consumers.

"Far left" by American standards is normal center left just about anywhere else.


But Trump is supposed to be the greatest economic genius in the history of ever. He said so and everything.

(Just ignore the fact he lied about finishing top of his class and stuff because that must be fake because Trump can never ever ever be wrong about anything.)
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:46 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Their dismal understanding of the economy and their current shift to the far left.


You ssy that while Trumps terrifs would only end up harming American manufacturers and consumers.

"Far left" by American standards is normal center left just about anywhere else.


First, no one here cares what anywhere else defines us as.

Second, the tariffs against China are just leveling the playing field. The one against Mexico is punishment for their support of illegal aliens invading the U.S. Both can be avoided by most people and corporations by buying American.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
You ssy that while Trumps terrifs would only end up harming American manufacturers and consumers.

"Far left" by American standards is normal center left just about anywhere else.


But Trump is supposed to be the greatest economic genius in the history of ever. He said so and everything.

(Just ignore the fact he lied about finishing top of his class and stuff because that must be fake because Trump can never ever ever be wrong about anything.)


Only an idiot thinks he can never be wrong. Even as a supporter, I think Trump has been wrong on occasion.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:48 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Their dismal understanding of the economy and their current shift to the far left.


This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.


It's because they understand that there is no negotiating with Congress Republicans though. Obama tried many times to negotiate with them, implemented a rightwing think tank's proposal on healthcare, nominated the most centrist judge for the Supreme Court and yet McConnell and the rest of the Republicans simply stonewalled everything and called him a communist. Meanwhile people are dying because they have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for lifesaving medication, when around 70% of Americans can't stump up enough savings for a 500 dollar emergency.

That's why a lot of democrats aren't tolerating any candidate who proclaims themselves a moderate.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:54 am

Big Jim P wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
You ssy that while Trumps terrifs would only end up harming American manufacturers and consumers.

"Far left" by American standards is normal center left just about anywhere else.


First, no one here cares what anywhere else defines us as.

Second, the tariffs against China are just leveling the playing field. The one against Mexico is punishment for their support of illegal aliens invading the U.S. Both can be avoided by most people and corporations by buying American.


America is a vast land with millions of people so I think saying "no one cares" wouldn't make sense. Statistically what you said is at the very least improbable.

Again, not buying cheeper resources at the same quality would only harm manufacturers and consumers.

There would be less products and more expensive products.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:59 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
First, no one here cares what anywhere else defines us as.

Second, the tariffs against China are just leveling the playing field. The one against Mexico is punishment for their support of illegal aliens invading the U.S. Both can be avoided by most people and corporations by buying American.


America is a vast land with millions of people so I think saying "no one cares" wouldn't make sense. Statistically what you said is at the very least improbable.

Again, not buying cheeper resources at the same quality would only harm manufacturers and consumers.

There would be less products and more expensive products.


But they'd be made in American and blind nationalism can fix all problems. :roll:
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:02 am

Chan Island wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.


It's because they understand that there is no negotiating with Congress Republicans though. Obama tried many times to negotiate with them, implemented a rightwing think tank's proposal on healthcare, nominated the most centrist judge for the Supreme Court and yet McConnell and the rest of the Republicans simply stonewalled everything and called him a communist. Meanwhile people are dying because they have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for lifesaving medication, when around 70% of Americans can't stump up enough savings for a 500 dollar emergency.

That's why a lot of democrats aren't tolerating any candidate who proclaims themselves a moderate.


People don't really seem to realize that Republicans have kinda been defining "moderate" and the American political center since Reagan, I see no reason to continue putting up with that paradigm.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:14 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
First, no one here cares what anywhere else defines us as.

Second, the tariffs against China are just leveling the playing field. The one against Mexico is punishment for their support of illegal aliens invading the U.S. Both can be avoided by most people and corporations by buying American.


America is a vast land with millions of people so I think saying "no one cares" wouldn't make sense. Statistically what you said is at the very least improbable.

Again, not buying cheeper resources at the same quality would only harm manufacturers and consumers.

There would be less products and more expensive products.


The only real reason foreign imports are cheaper is Chinas habit of subsidizing the dumping of products on America.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
America is a vast land with millions of people so I think saying "no one cares" wouldn't make sense. Statistically what you said is at the very least improbable.

Again, not buying cheeper resources at the same quality would only harm manufacturers and consumers.

There would be less products and more expensive products.


But they'd be made in American and blind nationalism can fix all problems. :roll:


Wise Nationalism does work though. There is nothing wrong with taking care of ones own.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:00 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Their dismal understanding of the economy and their current shift to the far left.


This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.

Thank God. America needs a hard left turn
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:05 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.

Thank God. America needs a hard left turn


180 degrees off.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:22 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.

Thank God. America needs a hard left turn


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:23 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This one really can't be understated imo. Just earlier tonight I saw a clip where a bunch of Dems were speaking in California and they booed John Hickenlooper for saying it would be a good thing to be moderate and not dive into the extremes.

Spooky times we be living in.

Thank God. America needs a hard left turn


It'll be interesting to see what happens if nothing else.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:37 am

Big Jim P wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
America is a vast land with millions of people so I think saying "no one cares" wouldn't make sense. Statistically what you said is at the very least improbable.

Again, not buying cheeper resources at the same quality would only harm manufacturers and consumers.

There would be less products and more expensive products.


The only real reason foreign imports are cheaper is Chinas habit of subsidizing the dumping of products on America.



So again, beacuse there cheaper people would have less products to sell and the price would go up for exactly the same quality of goods if every major corporation decided to buy American.

Also there would be a material shortage very quickly.

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