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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 28, 2019 6:20 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:Take. A. Chill. Pill. Duhon.

Nah, he's right. Trump is promoting an attitude of federal law being more of a suggestion when it comes to his allies and supporters, and that's pretty fucking bad.

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Postby Tinhampton » Tue May 28, 2019 6:29 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:In which case, then... :P

In the post I attempted to poke fun at - with unsurprisingly little success - you list four predicates about Chinese finances (if they can all be so broadly categorised):
  • The Democratic Party is being paid off by Beijing.
  • These "donations" from PR China are intended to disrupt and weaken the USA and its administration.
  • Beijing is also paying off Mexican cartels.
  • These cartels are attempting to place the USA into a state of heightened crime rate and bankruptcy.
Please provide PROOF AND SOURCES for each of these four assertations. If you cannot do so, then I will not continue this little discussion.

Please re-read the following before you denounce me as a Trump-hating commie bastard:

Beijing is not paying Mexicangangs- they are colluding through non financial means.

OK, so you claim that that is the case. We now have three core predicates - proposed by yourself, not by I - that can be checked against empirical data:
  • Beijing is paying off the Democratic Party.
  • These "donations" are intended to disrupt and weaken the USA and its government.
  • Beijing is also working with Mexican cartels to "destroy" the USA through increased crime rate and debt.

Can you find me proof for any one of those three predicates? I've put them in not-quite-extra-large font so that you know what you're meant to be looking for!

These three predicates stem from the claim that "Trump isn't colluding, but Dems are." We know for a fact that Trump was effectively exonerated by Mueller, therefore you have asserted three predicates involving Democrat collusion with PR China. Mueller could back up his assertations (or lack thereof); I await your effort at doing the same.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 6:36 am

Ifreann wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:Take. A. Chill. Pill. Duhon.

Nah, he's right. Trump is promoting an attitude of federal law being more of a suggestion when it comes to his allies and supporters, and that's pretty fucking bad.

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Postby Chan Island » Tue May 28, 2019 8:04 am

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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 28, 2019 8:47 am

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:

It shouldn't be. Just like people denying the earth is round, they are willfully ignoring the truth.


Lots of things shouldn't be. But alas, here we are.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue May 28, 2019 8:51 am

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 28, 2019 8:51 am

*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Postby Telconi » Tue May 28, 2019 10:28 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Lots of things shouldn't be. But alas, here we are.


Never understood the celebration of being ignorant.


Acknowledging the existence of a thing is celebration?
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Postby Tobleste » Tue May 28, 2019 2:42 pm

The Rich Port wrote:At least he's being consistent for one, what with that ridiculous video the White House published about violent video games causing school shootings.


Guns don't kill people, pixellated guns kill people.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 28, 2019 2:53 pm

Tobleste wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:At least he's being consistent for one, what with that ridiculous video the White House published about violent video games causing school shootings.


Guns don't kill people, pixellated guns kill people.


Incorrect, shootings cause video games.
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Chan Island
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Postby Chan Island » Tue May 28, 2019 2:56 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
Guns don't kill people, pixellated guns kill people.


Incorrect, shootings cause video games.


False. Video games cause guns.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue May 28, 2019 3:32 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
Guns don't kill people, pixellated guns kill people.


Incorrect, shootings cause video games.

That is technically true.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue May 28, 2019 3:37 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Incorrect, shootings cause video games.


False. Video games cause guns.


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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 8:11 pm

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue May 28, 2019 8:18 pm

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Postby Galloism » Tue May 28, 2019 8:19 pm


For shame - someone made the gif but included no captions.

Who is this deviant?
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Postby Duhon » Tue May 28, 2019 8:20 pm



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Postby Duhon » Tue May 28, 2019 8:23 pm



In retrospect, that Mike Diva vid was inspiring, not least for the suffering cut short, so so soon.

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Postby Bombadil » Tue May 28, 2019 8:26 pm

Duhon wrote:


In retrospect, that Mike Diva vid was inspiring, not least for the suffering cut short, so so soon.


It's all merely a step on the long journey to Idiocracy.
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Duhon
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Postby Duhon » Tue May 28, 2019 8:27 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Duhon wrote:
In retrospect, that Mike Diva vid was inspiring, not least for the suffering cut short, so so soon.


It's all merely a step on the long journey to Idiocracy.


No one could possibly be an idiot if all of us are dead.

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Postby New haven america » Tue May 28, 2019 8:29 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:At least he's being consistent for one, what with that ridiculous video the White House published about violent video games causing school shootings.

They still banging that stupid ass drum? FFS

The only time they're gonna stop banging that drum is when video games don't exist anymore.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 28, 2019 8:33 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:They still banging that stupid ass drum? FFS

The only time they're gonna stop banging that drum is when video games don't exist anymore.

Then they'll blame board games and role playing games.
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