MAGAThread XV: Because Another

[Thermodolia]

I wouldn’t call ATC non-essential.

And yes even essential government employees like the TSA, ATC, Coast Gaurd, and others do not get paid during a shutdown. They hope that they will get backpay.

Most ATC'ers are paid by through the states, or by private airports. ATC in this case would most certainly only mean federal ATC'ers on military bases.

Not quite. ATC is paid by the federal government not the states. ATC on military bases is shockingly military ATC and not civilian.

[Thermodolia]

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates JFK, is a self-supporting corporate agency. That sounds to me non-federal. With that, they're getting paid.

Air Traffic Controllers being one of the most actively unionized jobtitles, I would expect a strike if they really weren't getting paid. This hasn't seemed to happen.

During a shutdown they aren’t paid, they keep working because we always back pay them. And I’m guessing you don’t know about the ATC strike in the 80s?

PANY&NJ Operates everything but ATC. ATC is run by the FAA and is paid by them not the states. https://www.faa.gov/jobs/career_fields/ ... n_careers/

[Thermodolia]

Stop trade from flowing

How are they going to do that?

The coasts guards job is to keep trade flowing. They patrol the waters, break ice, and make sure waterways are open. They could just stop doing all of that.

[San Lumen]

How are they going to do that?

The coasts guards job is to keep trade flowing. They patrol the waters, break ice, and make sure waterways are open. They could just stop doing all of that.

And what would that accomplish?

[Thermodolia]

The coasts guards job is to keep trade flowing. They patrol the waters, break ice, and make sure waterways are open. They could just stop doing all of that.

And what would that accomplish?

Well it would get the government’s attention and there would be a lot of pressure from companies to end the shutdown

[San Lumen]

And what would that accomplish?

Well it would get the government’s attention and there would be a lot of pressure from companies to end the shutdown

And risk losing their jobs?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1OQ09P

Free market strikes again.

[Thermodolia]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-huawei-tech-exclusive/exclusive-white-house-mulls-new-year-executive-order-to-bar-huawei-zte-purchases-idUSKCN1OQ09P

Free market strikes again.

Good. Let’s hope Trump doesn’t fuck this one up

[Knask]

“You haven’t gotten one in more than 10 years — more than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one.”

“They said: ‘You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3 percent. We could make it 2 percent. We could make it 4 percent.’ I said: ‘No. Make it 10 percent. Make it more than 10 percent.’

Trump shows why he's the best president yet again: He flies to Iraq to tell the troops that they will have a pay raise of more than 10 percent. If that isn't showing respect and admiration for the troops, what is?

Trump authorized pay raise amounting to 2.6 percent

[San Lumen]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4157701121

Plus Trump also said that most of the Federal Workers not getting paid are Democrats and why dont the Democrats in Congress care about that?

Every time i think he can sink no lower he does.

[Juristonia]

Another part of the Steele dossier possibly got some confirmation.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/ ... ussia.html

Could be a big one, if true.

[San Lumen]

Another part of the Steele dossier possibly got some confirmation.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/ ... ussia.html

Could be a big one, if true.

I am beginning to have serious doubts he finishes his term especially if Democrats in Congress get his tax returns. There is obviously something in there he's trying to hind hence why he refuses to release them

[Corrian]

Well, let's hope your irrational fear of guns goes away, because there is now a non-zero chance of the US setting itself alight.

I am baffled by individuals who hate the government and support gun control. Guns fix bad government when supplied in great quantity.

The "I need guns in case of government tyranny" crowd mostly supports the most tyrannic government in a while, so...

[Corrian]

While visiting troops in Iraq, Trump said that the US was no longer going to be fighting for other countries without reimbursement.

So, I guess Trump is going to try and make Iraq pay for being invaded by America.

Good luck with that and what a stupid thing for him to say. I can't believe anyone in the military supports him.

His support in the military was way lower than support for Mattis, so now that Mattis is gone, I wouldn't be shocked if his support in the military is dropping because people are pissed.

[Big Jim P]

The people losing the paychecks (temporarily. They get their back-pay when the government is restarted) are non-essential personnel. There should be no non-essential personnel or non-essential government functions in the firs place.

I wouldn’t call ATC non-essential.

And yes even essential government employees like the TSA, ATC, Coast Gaurd, and others do not get paid during a shutdown. They hope that they will get backpay.

Are they part of the 25% of the government not yet funded or the 75% that has already been funded?

[San Lumen]

I wouldn’t call ATC non-essential.

And yes even essential government employees like the TSA, ATC, Coast Gaurd, and others do not get paid during a shutdown. They hope that they will get backpay.

Are they part of the 25% of the government not yet funded or the 75% that has already been funded?

They are part of the 25 percent not funded

[Corrian]

“You haven’t gotten one in more than 10 years — more than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one.”

“They said: ‘You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3 percent. We could make it 2 percent. We could make it 4 percent.’ I said: ‘No. Make it 10 percent. Make it more than 10 percent.’

Trump shows why he's the best president yet again: He flies to Iraq to tell the troops that they will have a pay raise of more than 10 percent. If that isn't showing respect and admiration for the troops, what is?

Trump authorized pay raise amounting to 2.6 percent

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but his claim is pants on fire inaccurate as military pay has been increased every year since 1983 (Which didn't increase because of a glitch), and even in your post, which again I can't tell if you're being sarcastic because I don't know you, he doesn't even fucking change it b 10% so he breaks that claim anyway by only increasing it by 2.6%. So if you ARE claiming he is the best seriously, that's an interesting thing to claim he is the best at when he can't even follow through with his comments.

[Corrian]

Also it looks like Cohen was in Prague, despite claims to the contrary back in the day, around 2016.

[Zurkerx]

Also it looks like Cohen was in Prague, despite claims to the contrary back in the day, around 2016.

I'm wary of the source in this case, given not much is known nor have I have heard much about it. However, if this is true, then it's a big bombshell on Trump. But I'll wait for what Mueller has to say, if Trump allows it to come out that is...

[San Lumen]

Also it looks like Cohen was in Prague, despite claims to the contrary back in the day, around 2016.

I'm wary of the source in this case, given not much is known nor have I have heard much about it. However, if this is true, then it's a big bombshell on Trump. But I'll wait for what Mueller has to say, if Trump allows it to come out that is...

Democrats can simply subpoena the report. Thats why this last election was so consequential.

[Vassenor]

Also it looks like Trump may have blown OPSEC and potentially PERSEC on a special operations deployment in Iraq.

[San Lumen]

Also it looks like Trump may have blown OPSEC and potentially PERSEC on a special operations deployment in Iraq.

Wasn't there a whole court case involving the outing a CiA agent by the name of Valerie Plame during the Bush years? This sounds very similar.

[Cannot think of a name]

Also it looks like Trump may have blown OPSEC and potentially PERSEC on a special operations deployment in Iraq.

Wasn't there a whole court case involving the outing a CiA agent by the name of Valerie Plame during the Bush years? This sounds very similar.

That was a vindictive act meant to attack a political opponent, this was a bumbling moron who doesn't listen to anyone doing something fucking stupid without realizing it.

[Ifreann]

Also it looks like Trump may have blown OPSEC and potentially PERSEC on a special operations deployment in Iraq.

The smartest President. The best brain.

[Maineiacs]

Wasn't there a whole court case involving the outing a CiA agent by the name of Valerie Plame during the Bush years? This sounds very similar.

That was a vindictive act meant to attack a political opponent, this was a bumbling moron who doesn't listen to anyone doing something fucking stupid without realizing it.

My guess is he revealed it because his advisors told him not to before he went.