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Postby Valrifell » Thu May 30, 2019 5:11 pm

San Lumen may be wrong about organized labor, but let's not distract from the fact that Donald Trump, C list reality star, is still the president.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 30, 2019 5:13 pm

Valrifell wrote:San Lumen may be wrong about organized labor, but let's not distract from the fact that Donald Trump, C list reality star, is still the president.

Nicely done. You need a little more wrist action and you should tuck your hip in more when you pivot the thread. Otherwise, very nice.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 30, 2019 5:15 pm

Valrifell wrote:San Lumen may be wrong about organized labor, but let's not distract from the fact that Donald Trump, C list reality star, is still the president.

C list is giving him too much credit
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu May 30, 2019 5:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:San Lumen may be wrong about organized labor, but let's not distract from the fact that Donald Trump, C list reality star, is still the president.

C list is giving him too much credit


That's a bit harsh. He could have easily got a gig on I'm A Celebrity....

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu May 30, 2019 5:18 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Now donnie is talking about tariffs on Mexico for immigration.

I thank the farmers for their sacrifice.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/30/politics ... index.html

At this point, Trump is like the Oprah of tariffs.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu May 30, 2019 5:18 pm

Trump announces 5% tariffs on all imports from Mexico and will reach a permanent level of 25% by October if Mexico doesn't stop illegal immigration into the US

Now, Mexico has been slacking off at apprehensions at their own border since, well, the new government has come into power and I do think that does need to be addressed (I think the last stat I saw was in December of 2018 where Mexico apprehended 6000 people at their border?). But I don't think tariffs are going to work so well, especially since we get a decent amount of food. I can only see this hurting consumers on all fronts, especially if they go up to 25% and we get a decent amount of car parts from their too. I don't see Mexico backing down. Or worse, walking away from the trade deal they made with America and Canada.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 30, 2019 5:23 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Now donnie is talking about tariffs on Mexico for immigration.

I thank the farmers for their sacrifice.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/30/politics ... index.html

At this point, Trump is like the Oprah of tariffs.

You get a tariff, you get a tariff, everyone gets a tariff!!!!!

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 30, 2019 5:27 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Trump announces 5% tariffs on all imports from Mexico and will reach a permanent level of 25% by October if Mexico doesn't stop illegal immigration into the US

Now, Mexico has been slacking off at apprehensions at their own border since, well, the new government has come into power and I do think that does need to be addressed (I think the last stat I saw was in December of 2018 where Mexico apprehended 6000 people at their border?). But I don't think tariffs are going to work so well, especially since we get a decent amount of food. I can only see this hurting consumers on all fronts, especially if they go up to 25% and we get a decent amount of car parts from their too. I don't see Mexico backing down. Or worse, walking away from the trade deal they made with America and Canada.

I’m generally pro-tariffs. Yet this is not how you use them. We should be supporting Mexico not killing them. Canada is already in the pocket of the Chinese we don’t need Mexico there as well
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 30, 2019 5:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Trump announces 5% tariffs on all imports from Mexico and will reach a permanent level of 25% by October if Mexico doesn't stop illegal immigration into the US

Now, Mexico has been slacking off at apprehensions at their own border since, well, the new government has come into power and I do think that does need to be addressed (I think the last stat I saw was in December of 2018 where Mexico apprehended 6000 people at their border?). But I don't think tariffs are going to work so well, especially since we get a decent amount of food. I can only see this hurting consumers on all fronts, especially if they go up to 25% and we get a decent amount of car parts from their too. I don't see Mexico backing down. Or worse, walking away from the trade deal they made with America and Canada.

I’m generally pro-tariffs. Yet this is not how you use them. We should be supporting Mexico not killing them. Canada is already in the pocket of the Chinese we don’t need Mexico there as well

and it will end with a collapse of the US economy if he keeps this up. A trade war with China isn't winnable no matter how much you think it is.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 30, 2019 5:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’m generally pro-tariffs. Yet this is not how you use them. We should be supporting Mexico not killing them. Canada is already in the pocket of the Chinese we don’t need Mexico there as well

and it will end with a collapse of the US economy if he keeps this up. A trade war with China isn't winnable no matter how much you think it is.

Don't worry, his base will blame Obama and Hillary.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 30, 2019 5:31 pm

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and it will end with a collapse of the US economy if he keeps this up. A trade war with China isn't winnable no matter how much you think it is.

Don't worry, his base will blame Obama and Hillary.

of course. why blame themselves for supporting him

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Postby Valrifell » Thu May 30, 2019 5:36 pm

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and it will end with a collapse of the US economy if he keeps this up. A trade war with China isn't winnable no matter how much you think it is.

Don't worry, his base will blame Obama and Hillary.


Incorrect. They've moved on from requiring specific scapegoats, they've ascended to the level where Democrats and anyone left-of-center are collectively at fault.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 30, 2019 5:41 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Don't worry, his base will blame Obama and Hillary.


Incorrect. They've moved on from requiring specific scapegoats, they've ascended to the level where Democrats and anyone left-of-center are collectively at fault.

So "LOCK HER UP" is just a team chant now?
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Postby Trumpisslavia » Thu May 30, 2019 5:51 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Trump announces 5% tariffs on all imports from Mexico and will reach a permanent level of 25% by October if Mexico doesn't stop illegal immigration into the US

Now, Mexico has been slacking off at apprehensions at their own border since, well, the new government has come into power and I do think that does need to be addressed (I think the last stat I saw was in December of 2018 where Mexico apprehended 6000 people at their border?). But I don't think tariffs are going to work so well, especially since we get a decent amount of food. I can only see this hurting consumers on all fronts, especially if they go up to 25% and we get a decent amount of car parts from their too. I don't see Mexico backing down. Or worse, walking away from the trade deal they made with America and Canada.


One of the gazillion reasons why Trump should be impeached, or have we reached the infinite?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu May 30, 2019 5:53 pm

Trumpisslavia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Trump announces 5% tariffs on all imports from Mexico and will reach a permanent level of 25% by October if Mexico doesn't stop illegal immigration into the US

Now, Mexico has been slacking off at apprehensions at their own border since, well, the new government has come into power and I do think that does need to be addressed (I think the last stat I saw was in December of 2018 where Mexico apprehended 6000 people at their border?). But I don't think tariffs are going to work so well, especially since we get a decent amount of food. I can only see this hurting consumers on all fronts, especially if they go up to 25% and we get a decent amount of car parts from their too. I don't see Mexico backing down. Or worse, walking away from the trade deal they made with America and Canada.


One of the gazillion reasons why Trump should be impeached, or have we reached the infinite?


You can't impeach a President for doing something that's within their power.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu May 30, 2019 5:55 pm

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Trumpisslavia wrote:
One of the gazillion reasons why Trump should be impeached, or have we reached the infinite?


You can't impeach a President for doing something that's within their power.

There's obstruction, but the Republicans are determined to coddle him like a fetus at all costs.
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Postby Trumpisslavia » Thu May 30, 2019 5:57 pm

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Trumpisslavia wrote:
One of the gazillion reasons why Trump should be impeached, or have we reached the infinite?


You can't impeach a President for doing something that's within their power.


One need only use said power inappropriate to the customs and dignity of the office he holds (but not necessarily illegal) for Congress to launch impeachment proceedings -- see the Lewinsky brouhaha.
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Postby Proctopeo » Thu May 30, 2019 5:58 pm

There are probably better ways to pressure Mexico to actually run itself. Though a couple of them might violate international treaties...
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu May 30, 2019 5:58 pm

Trumpisslavia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You can't impeach a President for doing something that's within their power.


One need only use said power inappropriate to the customs and dignity of the office he holds (but not necessarily illegal) for Congress to launch impeachment proceedings -- see the Lewinsky brouhaha.


That's really not how it works.

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Postby Proctopeo » Thu May 30, 2019 6:00 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Trumpisslavia wrote:
One need only use said power inappropriate to the customs and dignity of the office he holds (but not necessarily illegal) for Congress to launch impeachment proceedings -- see the Lewinsky brouhaha.


That's really not how it works.

Tbh it would be probably about as spurious and about as successful as the impeachment of President Clinton was
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu May 30, 2019 6:01 pm

Proctopeo wrote:There are probably better ways to pressure Mexico to actually run itself. Though a couple of them might violate international treaties...


I'm kinda okay with Mexico not putting kids in cages...

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu May 30, 2019 6:02 pm

Proctopeo wrote:There are probably better ways to pressure Mexico to actually run itself. Though a couple of them might violate international treaties...

We could invade and annex northern Mexico.
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Postby Make Acirema Grateful Again » Thu May 30, 2019 6:02 pm

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Postby Proctopeo » Thu May 30, 2019 6:04 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:There are probably better ways to pressure Mexico to actually run itself. Though a couple of them might violate international treaties...


I'm kinda okay with Mexico not putting kids in cages...

qué

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:There are probably better ways to pressure Mexico to actually run itself. Though a couple of them might violate international treaties...

We could invade and annex northern Mexico.

I feel as if people might object to that. Still, fundamentally not a bad idea.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu May 30, 2019 6:06 pm

Proctopeo wrote:qué


I'm okay with Mexico taking a higher road than the US.

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