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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 4:48 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Indeed. All those conservatives who said we had to get Saddam are all about punishing the lies now.

Even then. You still have to prove Mueller lied in his investigation.

I take it you didn't watch the video in the post I was responding to.


You mean the WMD nonsense? Again conservatives were all about getting saddam. Are they going to saying "HOW DARE YOU!"

Which still begs the question. What on the report are lies?

Sorry. I am not seeing how that clip invalidates the report.
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 29, 2019 4:51 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:I take it you didn't watch the video in the post I was responding to.


You mean the WMD nonsense? Again conservatives were all about getting saddam. Are they not going to say "HOW DARE YOU!"

Which still begs the question. What on the report are lies?

Sorry. I am not seeing how that clip invalidates the report.

I mean, it explains why he chicken shit out of talking straight and saying that Trump needs to go down like the mob kingpin he fancies himself to be. He ultimately did what the administration wanted as much as he could - just like he did under the Bush administration.

Now that they turned on him, he's regretting whatever faustian deal he made when he made the report somewhat ambiguous.

And just like Iraq, the administration got what it wanted.

And here's the thing: we should have known.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 29, 2019 4:55 pm

It's amazing that Trump drops lies like he ran a mic emporium and yet the focus is on whether Mueller is telling the truth or not. It's amazing how people ignore what a fundamental crook Trump is.

"Oh look.. Mueller said according to evidence presented by Colin Powell that Saddam may be supplying weapons.." - seems nothing he says can ever be trusted again.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 5:04 pm

Bombadil wrote:It's amazing that Trump drops lies like he ran a mic emporium and yet the focus is on whether Mueller is telling the truth or not. It's amazing how people ignore what a fundamental crook Trump is.

"Oh look.. Mueller said according to evidence presented by Colin Powell that Saddam may be supplying weapons.." - seems nothing he says can ever be trusted again.


I was looking for whole testimony when you posted this. Never trust an edited version.......
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Wed May 29, 2019 5:11 pm

Bombadil wrote:It's amazing that Trump drops lies like he ran a mic emporium and yet the focus is on whether Mueller is telling the truth or not. It's amazing how people ignore what a fundamental crook Trump is.

"Oh look.. Mueller said according to evidence presented by Colin Powell that Saddam may be supplying weapons.." - seems nothing he says can ever be trusted again.

Everything Trump says is a lie in the alternate reality you live in where everything Trump says is automatically a lie.
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 29, 2019 5:12 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Bombadil wrote:It's amazing that Trump drops lies like he ran a mic emporium and yet the focus is on whether Mueller is telling the truth or not. It's amazing how people ignore what a fundamental crook Trump is.

"Oh look.. Mueller said according to evidence presented by Colin Powell that Saddam may be supplying weapons.." - seems nothing he says can ever be trusted again.

Everything Trump says is a lie in the alternate reality you live in where everything Trump says is automatically a lie.

I mean, on average, you'd be right more often to assume it's a lie than assume it's the truth.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 29, 2019 5:14 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Bombadil wrote:It's amazing that Trump drops lies like he ran a mic emporium and yet the focus is on whether Mueller is telling the truth or not. It's amazing how people ignore what a fundamental crook Trump is.

"Oh look.. Mueller said according to evidence presented by Colin Powell that Saddam may be supplying weapons.." - seems nothing he says can ever be trusted again.


I was looking for whole testimony when you posted this. Never trust an edited version.......


Well.. I mean the FBI are internal no, so I doubt they'd personally be collecting evidence and he'd only be going off other reports. Regardless, even if Mueller's nickname is Fibby McFibster he wouldn't come close to the astronomical scale of lying undertaken by Trump, it's just a massive stretch to find evidence of Mueller making a vague statement as if that clears Trump of any wrongdoing.

We know that Trump Jnr knowingly arranged a meeting with a foreign operative for intelligence. It beggars belief that his father wasn't also entirely aware. Most of his campaign team is indicted already. Throughout the campaign he was like 'share more emails Wiki!', and now apparently he has no idea what Wiki is or that it was receiving files from Russia..

It's all a joke really.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 29, 2019 5:15 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Bombadil wrote:It's amazing that Trump drops lies like he ran a mic emporium and yet the focus is on whether Mueller is telling the truth or not. It's amazing how people ignore what a fundamental crook Trump is.

"Oh look.. Mueller said according to evidence presented by Colin Powell that Saddam may be supplying weapons.." - seems nothing he says can ever be trusted again.

Everything Trump says is a lie in the alternate reality you live in where everything Trump says is automatically a lie.


What's amazing is he lies even when he doesn't have to and the proof he's lying is there for everyone to see.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 29, 2019 5:17 pm

Bombadil wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I was looking for whole testimony when you posted this. Never trust an edited version.......


Well.. I mean the FBI are internal no, so I doubt they'd personally be collecting evidence and he'd only be going off other reports. Regardless, even if Mueller's nickname is Fibby McFibster he wouldn't come close to the astronomical scale of lying undertaken by Trump, it's just a massive stretch to find evidence of Mueller making a vague statement as if that clears Trump of any wrongdoing.

We know that Trump Jnr knowingly arranged a meeting with a foreign operative for intelligence. It beggars belief that his father wasn't also entirely aware. Most of his campaign team is indicted already. Throughout the campaign he was like 'share more emails Wiki!', and now apparently he has no idea what Wiki is or that it was receiving files from Russia..

It's all a joke really.


I still vivdly remember when Colin Powell presented the powerpointed "evidence" about Iraqi WMD's to the UNSC in New York. I've watched it live on TV. He was telling BS (if not to say lied) and he knew it and so did everyone else in the room, and so I did.

I felt bad for him.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 29, 2019 5:19 pm

Nakena wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Well.. I mean the FBI are internal no, so I doubt they'd personally be collecting evidence and he'd only be going off other reports. Regardless, even if Mueller's nickname is Fibby McFibster he wouldn't come close to the astronomical scale of lying undertaken by Trump, it's just a massive stretch to find evidence of Mueller making a vague statement as if that clears Trump of any wrongdoing.

We know that Trump Jnr knowingly arranged a meeting with a foreign operative for intelligence. It beggars belief that his father wasn't also entirely aware. Most of his campaign team is indicted already. Throughout the campaign he was like 'share more emails Wiki!', and now apparently he has no idea what Wiki is or that it was receiving files from Russia..

It's all a joke really.


I still vivdly remember when Colin Powell presented the powerpointed "evidence" about Iraqi WMD's to the UNSC in New York. I've watched it live on TV. He was telling BS (if not to say lied) and he knew it and so did everyone else in the room, and so I did.

I felt bad for him.

So did I. It's that Army training, he's good at following orders, I guess.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 29, 2019 5:29 pm

Nakena wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Well.. I mean the FBI are internal no, so I doubt they'd personally be collecting evidence and he'd only be going off other reports. Regardless, even if Mueller's nickname is Fibby McFibster he wouldn't come close to the astronomical scale of lying undertaken by Trump, it's just a massive stretch to find evidence of Mueller making a vague statement as if that clears Trump of any wrongdoing.

We know that Trump Jnr knowingly arranged a meeting with a foreign operative for intelligence. It beggars belief that his father wasn't also entirely aware. Most of his campaign team is indicted already. Throughout the campaign he was like 'share more emails Wiki!', and now apparently he has no idea what Wiki is or that it was receiving files from Russia..

It's all a joke really.


I still vivdly remember when Colin Powell presented the powerpointed "evidence" about Iraqi WMD's to the UNSC in New York. I've watched it live on TV. He was telling BS (if not to say lied) and he knew it and so did everyone else in the room, and so I did.

I felt bad for him.


A lot of people didn't.. lord knows on these very boards the rage around Iraq was immense with people insisting Saddam was seconds away from launching a nuclear attack on the West.

However I'm sure in 15 years we'll have people saying they always knew Trump was a lying liar and never liked him at all.. much as apparently no one ever liked or voted for GWB..
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 29, 2019 5:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I still vivdly remember when Colin Powell presented the powerpointed "evidence" about Iraqi WMD's to the UNSC in New York. I've watched it live on TV. He was telling BS (if not to say lied) and he knew it and so did everyone else in the room, and so I did.

I felt bad for him.

So did I. It's that Army training, he's good at following orders, I guess.


He hadn much of a choice, it was a bad situation.

Bombadil wrote:
Nakena wrote:
I still vivdly remember when Colin Powell presented the powerpointed "evidence" about Iraqi WMD's to the UNSC in New York. I've watched it live on TV. He was telling BS (if not to say lied) and he knew it and so did everyone else in the room, and so I did.

I felt bad for him.


A lot of people didn't.. lord knows on these very boards the rage around Iraq was immense with people insisting Saddam was seconds away from launching a nuclear attack on the West.

However I'm sure in 15 years we'll have people saying they always knew Trump was a lying liar and never liked him at all.. much as apparently no one ever liked or voted for GWB..


Question is also what will people say about the opposition? Back under GWB they were complicit.

Which brings me to another interesting Interview with Professer Allan Lichtmann who had predicted Trump's victory in 2016 early on. Its a bit longer than the one before and he goes more into detail here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2gvC-gu7AQ

He argues that if the Democrats do not act and grow a spine. Trump will likely win again in 2020.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Wed May 29, 2019 5:38 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Gormwood wrote:https://youtu.be/MrJMdCbaUfY

Allan Lichtman, the man with the most called Presidential elections, is saying going for impeachment will give the Democrats the best chance at winning in 2020.


Not sure I agree with him on this one actually. I can certainly see why the prediction would be made but further motivating the GOP, which an attempted impeachment would without a doubt do, doesn't seem like the best call for the Dems. Just riding the wave and hoping the nominee can appeal to people in the Midwest again seems like a lot less risky plan.

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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 29, 2019 5:45 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Not sure I agree with him on this one actually. I can certainly see why the prediction would be made but further motivating the GOP, which an attempted impeachment would without a doubt do, doesn't seem like the best call for the Dems. Just riding the wave and hoping the nominee can appeal to people in the Midwest again seems like a lot less risky plan.

The best way for trump to leave office is by election. Make him a one term president, not a 3 year martyr


I agree, impeachment is futile.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 29, 2019 6:00 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:The best way for trump to leave office is by election. Make him a one term president, not a 3 year martyr


I agree, impeachment is futile.

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Wed May 29, 2019 6:02 pm

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Bombadil wrote:
I agree, impeachment is futile.

You will be assimi ... sorry, sorry, wrong fantasy.

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Postby NeoOasis » Wed May 29, 2019 6:22 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:The best way for trump to leave office is by election. Make him a one term president, not a 3 year martyr


No matter what happens, he'll be a martyr. He'll see to that himself.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Wed May 29, 2019 6:34 pm

NeoOasis wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:The best way for trump to leave office is by election. Make him a one term president, not a 3 year martyr


No matter what happens, he'll be a martyr. He'll see to that himself.

No need to actually justify that in his base's head or energize his base in a "who can out petty who" match
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 29, 2019 6:46 pm

NeoOasis wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:The best way for trump to leave office is by election. Make him a one term president, not a 3 year martyr


No matter what happens, he'll be a martyr. He'll see to that himself.


Yeah, the sad reality is that even if he loses he'll blame illegal voting such as the fictitious 3M illegal votes in California, he'll continue to tweet ferociously and the media will continue to pick it up and report on it.

It won't end soon.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed May 29, 2019 6:48 pm

Bombadil wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:
No matter what happens, he'll be a martyr. He'll see to that himself.


Yeah, the sad reality is that even if he loses he'll blame illegal voting such as the fictitious 3M illegal votes in California, he'll continue to tweet ferociously and the media will continue to pick it up and report on it.

It won't end soon.


He's in his 70's and eats junk food for every meal. It can't last that long.

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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 29, 2019 6:56 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Yeah, the sad reality is that even if he loses he'll blame illegal voting such as the fictitious 3M illegal votes in California, he'll continue to tweet ferociously and the media will continue to pick it up and report on it.

It won't end soon.


He's in his 70's and eats junk food for every meal. It can't last that long.


Nonsense, Trump dictated his health report stating he possessed "extraordinary physical strength and stamina" himself, so it must be true.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed May 29, 2019 7:24 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
He's in his 70's and eats junk food for every meal. It can't last that long.


Nonsense, Trump dictated his health report stating he possessed "extraordinary physical strength and stamina" himself, so it must be true.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 7:25 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Nonsense, Trump dictated his health report stating he possessed "extraordinary physical strength and stamina" himself, so it must be true.

What will hit first? Heart attack or impeachment?


Heart attack. He won't be impeached.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed May 29, 2019 7:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:What will hit first? Heart attack or impeachment?


Heart attack. He won't be impeached.

Heh.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 8:11 pm

Apprantly the USS John Mccain had to cover up it's name and the crew was given a day off (hats have the name) so donnie wouldn't have a trump tantrum in Japan.....

https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-hous ... sage_share
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