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Postby WhatsamattaU » Wed May 29, 2019 2:52 pm

Gormwood wrote:
WhatsamattaU wrote:If a prosecutor believes that the government can prove the commission of a crime, even if they are operating under a guideline that suggests they shouldn't indict a sitting President, they can certainly put forth the opinion that a crime was committed.

Regarding Obstruction of Justice, Mueller didn't have shit, couldn't prove shit and is saying that because he couldn't prove shit that there's evidence of shit.

Mueller saying Justice Department policy didn't allow him to charge Donnie with obstruction is now the same as him saying there is no evidence of obstruction now? You're pulling a lot of muscles trying to gloat too hard there.

Mueller misquoted the Dept of Justice Office of Legal Counsel. It's a fucking Guideline and a Suggestion. He didn't have the ammunition and would have been shooting blanks.

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Postby Nakena » Wed May 29, 2019 2:54 pm

Besides did Mueller yet found those WMD's alongside Trump collusion with Putin?

Tell me, I am eager to know.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 2:55 pm

WhatsamattaU wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Mueller saying Justice Department policy didn't allow him to charge Donnie with obstruction is now the same as him saying there is no evidence of obstruction now? You're pulling a lot of muscles trying to gloat too hard there.

Mueller misquoted the Dept of Justice Office of Legal Counsel. It's a fucking Guideline and a Suggestion. He didn't have the ammunition and would have been shooting blanks.


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Postby Gormwood » Wed May 29, 2019 2:57 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
WhatsamattaU wrote:Mueller misquoted the Dept of Justice Office of Legal Counsel. It's a fucking Guideline and a Suggestion. He didn't have the ammunition and would have been shooting blanks.


whodahwhatnow? Source?

Some guy on the internet knows way more about the investigation than the people actually working on the investigation. Fact.
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Postby Oldenfranck » Wed May 29, 2019 3:11 pm

Welp, time to throw up the old sign again

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Wed May 29, 2019 3:16 pm

Oldenfranck wrote:Welp, time to throw up the old sign again

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Lolz
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Postby Gormwood » Wed May 29, 2019 3:18 pm

Oldenfranck wrote:Welp, time to throw up the old sign again

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The sad thing is how he barely won despite Moore being a teenie grabber.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Wed May 29, 2019 3:22 pm

Scary thought, if a President Truly cannot be indicted for anything unless congress impeaches them, then if something bad happened to congress a President would essentially have absolute power to do whatever they want criminal wise.
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Postby Oldenfranck » Wed May 29, 2019 3:25 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Oldenfranck wrote:Welp, time to throw up the old sign again

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The sad thing is how he barely won despite Moore being a teenie grabber.


It's Talibama dude.

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Postby Gormwood » Wed May 29, 2019 3:25 pm

https://youtu.be/MrJMdCbaUfY

Allan Lichtman, the man with the most called Presidential elections, is saying going for impeachment will give the Democrats the best chance at winning in 2020.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 29, 2019 3:27 pm

Gormwood wrote:https://youtu.be/MrJMdCbaUfY

Allan Lichtman, the man with the most called Presidential elections, is saying going for impeachment will give the Democrats the best chance at winning in 2020.


Until the Democrats grow a spine. Or some balls.

Which, given how much they stick to the russia meme, probably, won't.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 29, 2019 3:32 pm

Gormwood wrote:https://youtu.be/MrJMdCbaUfY

Allan Lichtman, the man with the most called Presidential elections, is saying going for impeachment will give the Democrats the best chance at winning in 2020.


Not sure I agree with him on this one actually. I can certainly see why the prediction would be made but further motivating the GOP, which an attempted impeachment would without a doubt do, doesn't seem like the best call for the Dems. Just riding the wave and hoping the nominee can appeal to people in the Midwest again seems like a lot less risky plan.
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Postby Oldenfranck » Wed May 29, 2019 3:32 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Oldenfranck wrote:Welp, time to throw up the old sign again

(Image)

Lolz


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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Wed May 29, 2019 3:32 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:Scary thought, if a President Truly cannot be indicted for anything unless congress impeaches them, then if something bad happened to congress a President would essentially have absolute power to do whatever they want criminal wise.

So you're saying 548 people with secret-service protection details would just have to up and vanish in order for the prez to become king?

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Postby Gormwood » Wed May 29, 2019 3:37 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:So you're saying 548 people with secret-service protection details would just have to up and vanish in order for the prez to become king?

Thanos is an even bigger asshole than I thought.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 29, 2019 3:48 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:Scary thought, if a President Truly cannot be indicted for anything unless congress impeaches them, then if something bad happened to congress a President would essentially have absolute power to do whatever they want criminal wise.

So you're saying 548 people with secret-service protection details would just have to up and vanish in order for the prez to become king?

>>>EXECUTE ORDER 66<<<

The Secret Service doesn't protect Congress.
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Postby Galloism » Wed May 29, 2019 3:52 pm

Nakena wrote:Besides did Mueller yet found those WMD's alongside Trump collusion with Putin?

Tell me, I am eager to know.

But I was assured that Mueller was an honest, trustworthy, upstanding individual that would never sell us a bill of goods ever. By everyone.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 4:17 pm

Nakena wrote:Besides did Mueller yet found those WMD's alongside Trump collusion with Putin?

Tell me, I am eager to know.


The right is using that? :rofl:
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed May 29, 2019 4:21 pm

WhatsamattaU wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Mueller saying Justice Department policy didn't allow him to charge Donnie with obstruction is now the same as him saying there is no evidence of obstruction now? You're pulling a lot of muscles trying to gloat too hard there.

Mueller misquoted the Dept of Justice Office of Legal Counsel. It's a fucking Guideline and a Suggestion. He didn't have the ammunition and would have been shooting blanks.

A guideline is not a suggestion. A guideline is legally binding in cases of criminal investigation.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 4:32 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nakena wrote:Besides did Mueller yet found those WMD's alongside Trump collusion with Putin?

Tell me, I am eager to know.

But I was assured that Mueller was an honest, trustworthy, upstanding individual that would never sell us a bill of goods ever. By everyone.


Who said that?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 29, 2019 4:33 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:But I was assured that Mueller was an honest, trustworthy, upstanding individual that would never sell us a bill of goods ever. By everyone.


Who said that?


Quite literally everyone.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 4:36 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Who said that?


Quite literally everyone.


Who said would never sell us a bill of goods ever?

Even then I will not listen to a conservative over that Mueller clip as it is the astronomical form of hypocrisy.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Galloism » Wed May 29, 2019 4:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:But I was assured that Mueller was an honest, trustworthy, upstanding individual that would never sell us a bill of goods ever. By everyone.


Who said that?

Quite a few people said things to that effect.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said Mueller has “sterling credentials and is above reproach.”

Even House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) ― who just last week dismissed the need for an independent investigation, telling Fox News “I don’t think that’s a good idea” ― suddenly had a change of tone. Responding to Wednesday’s news, Ryan said his “priority has been to ensure thorough and independent investigations are allowed to follow the facts wherever they may lead.”

Mueller’s appointment, Ryan added, is “consistent with that goal, and I welcome his role at the Department of Justice.”

...

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she was “pleased” to see the Justice Department answer Democrats’ demands, and called Mueller “a respected public servant of the highest integrity.” However, she stressed that the Trump administration must give Mueller the appropriate resources and independence.

“A special prosecutor is the first step, but it cannot be the last,” Pelosi said in a statement. “Director Mueller will still be in the chain of command under the Trump-appointed leadership of the Justice Department. He cannot take the place of a truly independent, outside commission that is completely free from the Trump Administration’s meddling. A special prosecutor does not negate the need for vigorous Congressional investigations either.”

...

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who joined Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) last week in calling on Rosenstein to either appoint a special prosector or resign, said Mueller’s appointment is “a good first step to get to the bottom of the many questions we have about Russian interference in our election and possible ties to the president.”

“Bob was a fine U.S. attorney, a great FBI director and there’s no better person who could be asked to perform this function,” Feinstein said in a statement. “He is respected, he is talented and he has the knowledge and ability to do the right thing.”

In a post on Twitter, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said Mueller has “impeccable credentials” and “should be widely accepted.”


Oh what a difference two years makes.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 29, 2019 4:41 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Who said that?

Quite a few people said things to that effect.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said Mueller has “sterling credentials and is above reproach.”

Even House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) ― who just last week dismissed the need for an independent investigation, telling Fox News “I don’t think that’s a good idea” ― suddenly had a change of tone. Responding to Wednesday’s news, Ryan said his “priority has been to ensure thorough and independent investigations are allowed to follow the facts wherever they may lead.”

Mueller’s appointment, Ryan added, is “consistent with that goal, and I welcome his role at the Department of Justice.”

...

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she was “pleased” to see the Justice Department answer Democrats’ demands, and called Mueller “a respected public servant of the highest integrity.” However, she stressed that the Trump administration must give Mueller the appropriate resources and independence.

“A special prosecutor is the first step, but it cannot be the last,” Pelosi said in a statement. “Director Mueller will still be in the chain of command under the Trump-appointed leadership of the Justice Department. He cannot take the place of a truly independent, outside commission that is completely free from the Trump Administration’s meddling. A special prosecutor does not negate the need for vigorous Congressional investigations either.”

...

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who joined Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) last week in calling on Rosenstein to either appoint a special prosector or resign, said Mueller’s appointment is “a good first step to get to the bottom of the many questions we have about Russian interference in our election and possible ties to the president.”

“Bob was a fine U.S. attorney, a great FBI director and there’s no better person who could be asked to perform this function,” Feinstein said in a statement. “He is respected, he is talented and he has the knowledge and ability to do the right thing.”

In a post on Twitter, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said Mueller has “impeccable credentials” and “should be widely accepted.”


Oh what a difference two years makes.


Indeed. All those conservatives who said we had to get Saddam are all about punishing the lies now.

Even then. You still have to prove Mueller lied in his investigation.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Galloism » Wed May 29, 2019 4:43 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Indeed. All those conservatives who said we had to get Saddam are all about punishing the lies now.

Even then. You still have to prove Mueller lied in his investigation.

I take it you didn't watch the video in the post I was responding to.
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