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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 21, 2019 11:03 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Or if Garland doesn't recuse himself, it's easy grounds for appeal.

Garland is just the chief of the court, it’s unlikely that he’ll even hear the case as three judges are selected at random and there’s definitely more than four judges on the court


Granted, that's a rather legit concern. Trump is going to use every dirty trick in the book.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue May 21, 2019 11:04 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Or if Garland doesn't recuse himself, it's easy grounds for appeal.


Then it's a good thing he hasn't been public about any feelings he might have.

He took his demotion on the chin, and he's not at all affected by it.

Works for businessmen denying conflicts of interest in regulation.


No, he works in the DC Court of Appeals.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 21, 2019 11:29 am

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Valrifell wrote:
In what way? Trump, personally, had nothing to do with Garland being snubbed. If this were McConnell, then I can see an issue, but I don't think he has a vendetta against the whole GOP.


"I really hope Merrick Garland has an extensive record of either showing disdain for Trump or of Trump and the Repubs shitting all over Garland."

If such a record is demonstrable, then its grounds for a conflict of interest appeal.


*shrugs* Why is that a concern? Are you ok with Kav?

Judges normally don't make their politics known.

The only way he should recuse himself is if he had involvement in the investigations.
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Postby Telconi » Tue May 21, 2019 12:33 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Or if Garland doesn't recuse himself, it's easy grounds for appeal.


Then it's a good thing he hasn't been public about any feelings he might have.

He took his demotion on the chin, and he's not at all affected by it.

Works for businessmen denying conflicts of interest in regulation.


When did he get demoted? And was it on Trump's orders?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue May 21, 2019 12:39 pm

I heard Donald Trump used to hang out at Tavern on the Green in Manhattan back in the 1980s.
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Tue May 21, 2019 12:39 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Or if Garland doesn't recuse himself, it's easy grounds for appeal.


In what way? Trump, personally, had nothing to do with Garland being snubbed. If this were McConnell, then I can see an issue, but I don't think he has a vendetta against the whole GOP.


You're entirely correct. There are zero grounds for a recusal.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue May 21, 2019 12:42 pm

Trump has also been known to visit the 21 Club, Jean-Georges, and The Polo Bar.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 21, 2019 12:51 pm

On the verge of going to war w/Iran, women/girls being forced to carry pregnancies from men who raped them, 400+ days of kids being ripped from their asylum-seeking parents, I’d like to give a big shoutout to everyone who couldn’t vote for the “lesser of two evils.”
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Tue May 21, 2019 12:53 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:Trump has also been known to visit the 21 Club, Jean-Georges, and The Polo Bar.


Where he probably got dusted to the eyeballs.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 21, 2019 12:54 pm

Vassenor wrote:
On the verge of going to war w/Iran, women/girls being forced to carry pregnancies from men who raped them, 400+ days of kids being ripped from their asylum-seeking parents, I’d like to give a big shoutout to everyone who couldn’t vote for the “lesser of two evils.”


Word, Johnson really did deserve more votes.

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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Tue May 21, 2019 1:00 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:


Word, Johnson really did deserve more votes.


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Postby Duhon » Tue May 21, 2019 1:07 pm

Vassenor wrote:
On the verge of going to war w/Iran, women/girls being forced to carry pregnancies from men who raped them, 400+ days of kids being ripped from their asylum-seeking parents, I’d like to give a big shoutout to everyone who couldn’t vote for the “lesser of two evils.”


Didn't say making America great again wouldn't come with sacrifices. I mean, Tezcatlipoca needs help in maintaining his universe... oh, you mean Trump?

Same shit.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 21, 2019 1:18 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:


Word, Johnson really did deserve more votes.


Well? The problem was the majority of people didn't have an opinion on him. He did well for a third party guy. He lasted longer then were most of the third party guys fade. He was in a downward trend by the time the debates happened. A couple policy gaffes, not knowing basic facts on the Syrian war or not being able to name a foreign leader he admired didn't help.

Was he simply a protest vote?

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Postby Gormwood » Tue May 21, 2019 1:32 pm

Vassenor wrote:
On the verge of going to war w/Iran, women/girls being forced to carry pregnancies from men who raped them, 400+ days of kids being ripped from their asylum-seeking parents, I’d like to give a big shoutout to everyone who couldn’t vote for the “lesser of two evils.”

Remember who was the one that was supposed to drag America into a war and be constantly investigated. *nod*
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 21, 2019 1:33 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Word, Johnson really did deserve more votes.


Well? The problem was the majority of people didn't have an opinion on him. He did well for a third party guy. He lasted longer then were most of the third party guys fade. He was in a downward trend by the time the debates happened. A couple policy gaffes, not knowing basic facts on the Syrian war or not being able to name a foreign leader he admired didn't help.

Was he simply a protest vote?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... y-johnson/


It wasn't a protest vote for me at least, I well and truly wanted a third party (with an actual party structure, not like Ross Perot) to hit the 5% mark to try and become more competitive or at least raise the issue of election reform to more people. It's a damn shame it didn't happen.

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Postby Telconi » Tue May 21, 2019 2:53 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Well? The problem was the majority of people didn't have an opinion on him. He did well for a third party guy. He lasted longer then were most of the third party guys fade. He was in a downward trend by the time the debates happened. A couple policy gaffes, not knowing basic facts on the Syrian war or not being able to name a foreign leader he admired didn't help.

Was he simply a protest vote?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... y-johnson/


It wasn't a protest vote for me at least, I well and truly wanted a third party (with an actual party structure, not like Ross Perot) to hit the 5% mark to try and become more competitive or at least raise the issue of election reform to more people. It's a damn shame it didn't happen.


While I understand the desire to see third parties emboldened, and it was a large part of my vote. I would still say it was a protest vote on my part, I don't care for the Libertarian party's laissez-faire economics, and really can't say I consider their policies superior to the Republicans all told.
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Postby Galloism » Tue May 21, 2019 2:56 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Vassenor wrote:

Remember who was the one that was supposed to drag America into a war and be constantly investigated. *nod*

Well at least there's no new war yet.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue May 21, 2019 2:59 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Well? The problem was the majority of people didn't have an opinion on him. He did well for a third party guy. He lasted longer then were most of the third party guys fade. He was in a downward trend by the time the debates happened. A couple policy gaffes, not knowing basic facts on the Syrian war or not being able to name a foreign leader he admired didn't help.

Was he simply a protest vote?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... y-johnson/


It wasn't a protest vote for me at least, I well and truly wanted a third party (with an actual party structure, not like Ross Perot) to hit the 5% mark to try and become more competitive or at least raise the issue of election reform to more people. It's a damn shame it didn't happen.


What about everything else that was wrong with Gary Johnson.

It's a reason to encourage the Democrats to make electoral reform, not to throw your weight behind a man who I can barely string memories around beyond he had an affinity for tacky jeans.
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 21, 2019 3:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Well? The problem was the majority of people didn't have an opinion on him. He did well for a third party guy. He lasted longer then were most of the third party guys fade. He was in a downward trend by the time the debates happened. A couple policy gaffes, not knowing basic facts on the Syrian war or not being able to name a foreign leader he admired didn't help.

Was he simply a protest vote?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... y-johnson/


It wasn't a protest vote for me at least, I well and truly wanted a third party (with an actual party structure, not like Ross Perot) to hit the 5% mark to try and become more competitive or at least raise the issue of election reform to more people. It's a damn shame it didn't happen.

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Postby Bombadil » Tue May 21, 2019 3:16 pm

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Whether he's officially president he will believe he's president by right regardless of what happens, because the only way he'll lose an election if it was stolen from him.

Essentially, he will remain a major pain in the ass for years to come.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 21, 2019 3:17 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It wasn't a protest vote for me at least, I well and truly wanted a third party (with an actual party structure, not like Ross Perot) to hit the 5% mark to try and become more competitive or at least raise the issue of election reform to more people. It's a damn shame it didn't happen.


What about everything else that was wrong with Gary Johnson.

It's a reason to encourage the Democrats to make electoral reform, not to throw your weight behind a man who I can barely string memories around beyond he had an affinity for tacky jeans.


Johnson was and is an odd one but I personally found a lot less wrong with him than either of the two major parties.

Plus it would have been great to be able to make jokes about the President being 4/20 blazed all the time.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 21, 2019 3:58 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
What about everything else that was wrong with Gary Johnson.

It's a reason to encourage the Democrats to make electoral reform, not to throw your weight behind a man who I can barely string memories around beyond he had an affinity for tacky jeans.


Johnson was and is an odd one but I personally found a lot less wrong with him than either of the two major parties.

Plus it would have been great to be able to make jokes about the President being 4/20 blazed all the time.

I’d rather take a president who can’t remember shit about some desert nation than one who drags us into another Middle Eastern war
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Postby Philjia » Tue May 21, 2019 4:08 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Johnson was and is an odd one but I personally found a lot less wrong with him than either of the two major parties.

Plus it would have been great to be able to make jokes about the President being 4/20 blazed all the time.

I’d rather take a president who can’t remember shit about some desert nation than one who drags us into another Middle Eastern war

Possibly the least justified Middle Eastern war yet, if it happens, which hopefully it won't.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 21, 2019 4:16 pm

Philjia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’d rather take a president who can’t remember shit about some desert nation than one who drags us into another Middle Eastern war

Possibly the least justified Middle Eastern war yet, if it happens, which hopefully it won't.


Less justified than the Crusades?

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Tue May 21, 2019 4:26 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Philjia wrote:Possibly the least justified Middle Eastern war yet, if it happens, which hopefully it won't.


Less justified than the Crusades?

At least the crusades had some religious justification
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