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Postby Telconi » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:28 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
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Didn't he previously claim that the fact there were no plane crashes anywhere in 2017 was all down to him and how awesome he was?


As a matter of fact, yes, although it's more like no deaths but, it's kind of the same.


This would be funny if it wasn't so depressing.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:30 pm

Wallenburg wrote:So not only is the Trump administration illegally rejecting refugees at the border, but it is closing down immigration and refugee offices abroad as it simultaneously demands that asylum seekers apply at those offices.


It's wonderful, isn't it? :)
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:34 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:So not only is the Trump administration illegally rejecting refugees at the border, but it is closing down immigration and refugee offices abroad as it simultaneously demands that asylum seekers apply at those offices.


It's wonderful, isn't it? :)

The administration then needs to own it, and just say they hate all refugees for being foreigners. Don't try to hide it anymore, just own it. We all know it, and this policy only makes sense if the administration just flatout hates foreigners, so just accept that. Than we can have the true conversation, instead of hiding it in euphemisms and letting everyone do the puppetry, trying to fool your own morality.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:36 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
It's wonderful, isn't it? :)

The administration then needs to own it, and just say they hate all refugees for being foreigners. Don't try to hide it anymore, just own it. We all know it, and this policy only makes sense if the administration just flatout hates foreigners, so just accept that. Than we can have the true conversation, instead of hiding it in euphemisms and letting everyone do the puppetry, trying to fool your own morality.


Why should they? It's so much more fun to continue as is.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:38 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
It's wonderful, isn't it? :)

The administration then needs to own it, and just say they hate all refugees for being foreigners. Don't try to hide it anymore, just own it. We all know it, and this policy only makes sense if the administration just flatout hates foreigners, so just accept that. Than we can have the true conversation, instead of hiding it in euphemisms and letting everyone do the puppetry, trying to fool your own morality.


I mean, why?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:45 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The administration then needs to own it, and just say they hate all refugees for being foreigners. Don't try to hide it anymore, just own it. We all know it, and this policy only makes sense if the administration just flatout hates foreigners, so just accept that. Than we can have the true conversation, instead of hiding it in euphemisms and letting everyone do the puppetry, trying to fool your own morality.


Why should they? It's so much more fun to continue as is.

What a dogshit way to determine policy that makes us into a global joke.
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Postby Loben » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:52 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
Why should they? It's so much more fun to continue as is.

What a dogshit way to determine policy that makes us into a global joke.


Us?

oh come on, there hasnt been a "US" since 2008 depending who you ask.

and who quite honestly gives a shit? Bleeding hearts who get swayed too easily by crying kids?

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:53 pm

Loben wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:What a dogshit way to determine policy that makes us into a global joke.


Us?

oh come on, there hasnt been a "US" since 2008 depending who you ask.

and who quite honestly gives a shit? Bleeding hearts who get swayed too easily by crying kids?


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Postby Ifreann » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:56 pm

Gravlen wrote:I'm glad Trump is focusing on the important issues :)

Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are needed, and the complexity creates danger. All of this for great cost yet very little gain. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!


:lol:

I'm reminded of Trump wanting the Navy to keep the hydraulic catapults for launching planes off aircraft carriers. See, the upgrades wouldn't have made clouds of steam, and Trump, moron that he is, assumed the steam clouds = better.
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Postby Loben » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:56 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Loben wrote:
Us?

oh come on, there hasnt been a "US" since 2008 depending who you ask.

and who quite honestly gives a shit? Bleeding hearts who get swayed too easily by crying kids?


Stop playing with sharp edges, you'll hurt yourself.


Scathing, anything more?

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:59 pm

Loben wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Stop playing with sharp edges, you'll hurt yourself.


Scathing, anything more?


Other than maybe you shouldn't view human life that disposable? Not really.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:01 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
Why should they? It's so much more fun to continue as is.

What a dogshit way to determine policy that makes us into a global joke.


Really? Because I'm not seeing that beyond the fevered imaginations of those like yourself. Use to, the Right could only point to Hungary or Poland by now places like France or Germany can be added to that list. China and Russia were already well known, for others.
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Postby Loben » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:03 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Loben wrote:
Scathing, anything more?


Other than maybe you shouldn't view human life that disposable? Not really.


hey, life is cheap now a days. weather you choose to believe it is entirely up to you.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:03 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:What a dogshit way to determine policy that makes us into a global joke.


Really? Because I'm not seeing that beyond the fevered imaginations of those like yourself. Use to, the Right could only point to Hungary or Poland by now places like France or Germany can be added to that list. China and Russia were already well known, for others.

I'm not super impressed with treating diplomacy and global politics like a frat. You do you, though.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:04 pm

Loben wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Other than maybe you shouldn't view human life that disposable? Not really.


hey, life is cheap now a days. weather you choose to believe it is entirely up to you.


Something being as is is not a good argument for keeping it as such.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:04 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I'm glad Trump is focusing on the important issues :)

Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are needed, and the complexity creates danger. All of this for great cost yet very little gain. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!


:lol:


Whilst he did state in normal Trump like fashion he's actually not making a bad point tbqh


Arn't something like 3/4s of all plane crashes due to pilot error?
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:07 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Whilst he did state in normal Trump like fashion he's actually not making a bad point tbqh


Arn't something like 3/4s of all plane crashes due to pilot error?


55%, but something else usually goes wrong first.
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Postby The Columbia-Republic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:08 pm

Shrillland wrote:Moving on. Going from what Bombadil said, we could, theoretically, actually just give Trump the funding for his wall late in 2019 knowing that it couldn't be built by the time Trump's out of office, but that presumes that he'd lose in 2020. Also, a lot of Progressive groups would pillory Congress for it despite administrative realities.


Careful, MAGAts might upload some past events and carry-and-on as a response. They just want a border wall because they think they are superior from every other political party in the USA, and think they can simply get away with things just because they (well think) that they are the "oldest political party" in the United States. like coming up with an excuse about border security when immigration can enter "illegally" through other ports of the nation that also includes underground and in the air, By the time Trump's out of office the border wall will cease to exist; Like it already is starting to Now without a doubt thanking Speaker Pelosi.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:12 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Whilst he did state in normal Trump like fashion he's actually not making a bad point tbqh


Arn't something like 3/4s of all plane crashes due to pilot error?

32%, actually.
The Columbia-Republic wrote:and think they can simply get away with things just because they (well think) that they are the "oldest political party" in the United States

I doubt they actually think this.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:25 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
Arn't something like 3/4s of all plane crashes due to pilot error?

32%, actually.
The Columbia-Republic wrote:and think they can simply get away with things just because they (well think) that they are the "oldest political party" in the United States

I doubt they actually think this.

Especially given that the Party's story is that it came about in response to Democrats support of slavery which they keep bringing up as their 'get out of racism free' card.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:46 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
Why should they? It's so much more fun to continue as is.

What a dogshit way to determine policy that makes us into a global joke.


What is? Being a liar? We've been doing that for decades.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:48 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I'm glad Trump is focusing on the important issues :)

Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are needed, and the complexity creates danger. All of this for great cost yet very little gain. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!


:lol:

I'm reminded of Trump wanting the Navy to keep the hydraulic catapults for launching planes off aircraft carriers. See, the upgrades wouldn't have made clouds of steam, and Trump, moron that he is, assumed the steam clouds = better.

I remember that now. Dear Lord, what a fever dream presidency this has been...
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Postby Telconi » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:50 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Loben wrote:
hey, life is cheap now a days. weather you choose to believe it is entirely up to you.


Something being as is is not a good argument for keeping it as such.


No. But something being is a good argument for viewing it as such.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:50 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Confederate States of German America wrote:
Really? Because I'm not seeing that beyond the fevered imaginations of those like yourself. Use to, the Right could only point to Hungary or Poland by now places like France or Germany can be added to that list. China and Russia were already well known, for others.

I'm not super impressed with treating diplomacy and global politics like a frat. You do you, though.


Except we're not talking about that, we're talking about global reaction to a change in domestic immigration policy. With regards to the specifics of the matter, you're very much out of step with the times; 63% of French say there is too many foreigners in their nation, 38% of Germans list immigration as their biggest concern and it tops the list of total concerns. It's no longer just the United States or nations like Poland.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:59 pm

Confederate States of German America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm not super impressed with treating diplomacy and global politics like a frat. You do you, though.


Except we're not talking about that, we're talking about global reaction to a change in domestic immigration policy. With regards to the specifics of the matter, you're very much out of step with the times; 63% of French say there is too many foreigners in their nation, 38% of Germans list immigration as their biggest concern and it tops the list of total concerns. It's no longer just the United States or nations like Poland.

Rather I was talking about responding to chickenshit xenophobia with fratboy glee as a matter of policy, but whatever makes you feel better about it.
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