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What’s your favorite Ben Shapiro moment?

vs. Cenk Uyghur (Politicon)
11
9%
vs. Piers Morgan
6
5%
vs. Zoey Tur (Caitlyn Jenner debate)
10
8%
Black Lives Matter Debate (Radio)
1
1%
Boy Scouts Debate
6
5%
Double Middle Finger to Protestors
6
5%
Meme Review
37
31%
Any moment from the Ben Shapiro Show (Specify)
2
2%
Other
7
6%
None
35
29%
 
Total votes : 121

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Postby Scomagia » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:38 pm

Chrominus wrote:
Liriena wrote:But the person can be genuinely stupid.

I agree, i myself am stupid and people can be realistically stupid in that they do not work with facts.

People can also be intelligent and come to questionable conclusions. Stupidity isn't required.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:57 pm

Chrominus wrote:
Liriena wrote:But the person can be genuinely stupid.

I agree, i myself am stupid and people can be realistically stupid in that they do not work with facts.

Because facts don’t care about your feelings
:D
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Postby Chrominus » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:19 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Chrominus wrote:I agree, i myself am stupid and people can be realistically stupid in that they do not work with facts.

Because facts don’t care about your feelings
:D

ok that was epic.

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Postby Jakker » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:44 pm

Okay, a lot of this thread is basically spam. I'm also not quite sure if we need an entire thread devoted to Ben Shapiro. For now, the thread stays unlocked, but quit with all of the spamming and actually get on substantial discussion.
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Postby The Tomerlands » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:08 pm

Scomagia wrote:
The Tomerlands wrote:The only thing Ben Shirpo does is talk really fast and be quick witted. He's a smart man and a gifted speaker but when it comes to politics and philosophy he's dumber then a meth addicted redneck who lived his entire life in some shack in the middle of the woods. His fans are by far way worst then him though, practically worshipping the man and challenging anyone who criticizes him to "Debate him". I'm sure Ben is a real cool guy, but he's a hack and a true regressive.

It's interesting that you go to personal attacks instead of addressing his actual views. Is it more reasonable to believe "Hurr durr, he's dumb and that's why he believes what he does" or "he's an individual who has arrived at different reasoned conclusions than I have"?


Well you aren't a Shirpo fanboy at all.

P.S. I actually did say he was smart, but his beliefs are regressive and plain stupid. Examples, he doesn't believe in climate change, he doesn't believe in gay rights, he doesn't believe in transgender rights, he think the US was founded on "Christian values", and in pretty sure he's a creationist but I might be wrong.

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Postby The Tomerlands » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:10 pm

South Ccanda wrote:
The Tomerlands wrote:
That pretty much is him.

Well, technically, weaker opponents come to him. Hence, the Boy Scouts meme.


1. What do you mean they come to him?

2. What is the Boy Scouts meme?

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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:10 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:
Borovan entered the region as he wrote:Barely heard of him.


Same. Probably more well-known in the edgy alt-right teen crowd.

He is particularly popular with Generation Z, whom are much more libertarian than their predecessors

Also he is highly critical of the alt-right and racism
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Postby The Tomerlands » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:11 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Who the fuck is Ben Shapiro? I keep hearing this name but I've avoided looking it up because I'm afraid I won't like what I read.

From the name alone, I picture a sleazy guy.


He's a conservative pundit with a huge fan base. He's not sleazy but smug.

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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:11 pm

The Tomerlands wrote:
South Ccanda wrote:Well, technically, weaker opponents come to him. Hence, the Boy Scouts meme.


1. What do you mean they come to him?

2. What is the Boy Scouts meme?

A college student came up to him and asked the question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtuqmThPE5c
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Postby Liriena » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:13 pm

The Tomerlands wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Who the fuck is Ben Shapiro? I keep hearing this name but I've avoided looking it up because I'm afraid I won't like what I read.

From the name alone, I picture a sleazy guy.


He's a conservative pundit with a huge fan base. He's not sleazy but smug.

Definitely not sleazy... but he's definitely a two-faced skank who'll encourage violence and racism and then whine about how his left-wing critics are all anti-semites.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:13 pm

Ben Shapiro usually just antagonizes his opponents, uses strawman tactics, and all that stuff. He’s basically your average NSG poster.
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:15 pm

The Tomerlands wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It's interesting that you go to personal attacks instead of addressing his actual views. Is it more reasonable to believe "Hurr durr, he's dumb and that's why he believes what he does" or "he's an individual who has arrived at different reasoned conclusions than I have"?


Well you aren't a Shirpo fanboy at all.

P.S. I actually did say he was smart, but his beliefs are regressive and plain stupid. Examples, he doesn't believe in climate change, he doesn't believe in gay rights, he doesn't believe in transgender rights, he think the US was founded on "Christian values", and in pretty sure he's a creationist but I might be wrong.

You're right. I'm not. Nice attempted swipe, though.

He's an Orthodox Jew. I expect he believes the U.S. was founded on Judeo-Christian values. Which it actually was. That said, he seems to believe in the value of political secularism.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:15 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Same. Probably more well-known in the edgy alt-right teen crowd.

He is particularly popular with Generation Z, whom are much more libertarian than their predecessors

The jury is still out on that one, though. He's popular with the extremely online youth, but that doesn't mean his influence on "generation Z" as a whole is that great.

Aureumterra wrote:Also he is highly critical of the alt-right and racism

When he's not blaming black civil rights movements on evil "race hustlers" and demeaning the entirety of the Arab race.
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Postby New Kvenland » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:15 pm

My favorite Ben Shapiro moment was when a transwoman told him he'd be leaving in an ambulance if he kept intentionally misgendering her

Aureumterra wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Same. Probably more well-known in the edgy alt-right teen crowd.

He is particularly popular with Generation Z, whom are much more libertarian than their predecessors

Also he is highly critical of the alt-right and racism


"Highly critical of... racism" is an odd way to spell "thinks Palestinians only destroy things and live in sewers"
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:15 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Tomerlands wrote:
He's a conservative pundit with a huge fan base. He's not sleazy but smug.

Definitely not sleazy... but he's definitely a two-faced skank who'll encourage violence and racism and then whine about how his left-wing critics are all anti-semites.

Encouraging Racism? Sources? He is highly critical of the alt right and racism
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Postby Liriena » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:16 pm

Scomagia wrote:
The Tomerlands wrote:
Well you aren't a Shirpo fanboy at all.

P.S. I actually did say he was smart, but his beliefs are regressive and plain stupid. Examples, he doesn't believe in climate change, he doesn't believe in gay rights, he doesn't believe in transgender rights, he think the US was founded on "Christian values", and in pretty sure he's a creationist but I might be wrong.

You're right. I'm not. Nice attempted swipe, though.

He's an Orthodox Jew. I expect he believes the U.S. was founded on Judeo-Christian values. Which it actually was.

Eeeeeeh, definitely lots of Christian influence, but "Judeo-Christian" implies a sort of cultural continuity between Judaism and the Christianity of modern times which isn't really there.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:17 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Liriena wrote:Definitely not sleazy... but he's definitely a two-faced skank who'll encourage violence and racism and then whine about how his left-wing critics are all anti-semites.

Encouraging Racism? Sources? He is highly critical of the alt right and racism

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/2 ... 77?lang=es

Israelis like to build. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. This is not a difficult issue. #settlementsrock
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:17 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Liriena wrote:Definitely not sleazy... but he's definitely a two-faced skank who'll encourage violence and racism and then whine about how his left-wing critics are all anti-semites.

Encouraging Racism? Sources? He is highly critical of the alt right and racism

Don’t bother. Everything is racist.
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Postby Rodez » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:18 pm

Ok, this is epic.
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Rodez wrote:Ok, this is epic.

5th time I’ve seen this joke.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:18 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Encouraging Racism? Sources? He is highly critical of the alt right and racism

Don’t bother. Everything is racist.

Well, not everything, but claiming that the entire Arab race likes to bomb stuff and live in open sewers is absolutely racist.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:19 pm

Rodez wrote:Ok, this is epic.

Can we please stop spamming memes (A mod threatened to lock this if there are more spam posts)
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:21 pm

Liriena wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Don’t bother. Everything is racist.

Well, not everything, but claiming that the entire Arab race likes to bomb stuff and live in open sewers is absolutely racist.

Ok yeah that is. But when has he said that? I legitimately don’t know. I only look at the “What about Venezuela!?!?!” Argument
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Postby New Kvenland » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:22 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Liriena wrote:Well, not everything, but claiming that the entire Arab race likes to bomb stuff and live in open sewers is absolutely racist.

Ok yeah that is. But when has he said that? I legitimately don’t know. I only look at the “What about Venezuela!?!?!” Argument


Liriena literally linked it in the post they made right before the one you quoted
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Postby Sougra » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:23 pm

Liriena wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Don’t bother. Everything is racist.

Well, not everything, but claiming that the entire Arab race likes to bomb stuff and live in open sewers is absolutely racist.

I think you need more than one example to convince people of that. I wasn't convinced of that, until you showed me the article, which has more examples to state that, namely that Arabs are naturally a violent people who wish death upon people, and he had endorsed the idea of moving all Arabs out of their homes into another state akin to Churchill (which I'm surprised he didn't know was a bad example, but then again, many forget the bad parts of Churchill because he was a hero to the Allied cause and made quite the famous speech, so I guess he didn't expect many to call him out on that.)
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