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Postby Diopolis » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:49 pm

Shocker. Next thing you're going to tell me women like men with dominant personalities, too.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:27 pm

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Nobody said destroyed, he specifically said it torpedoed the idea of feminism was interested in breaking down male gender roles. That's not necessarily a valid leap but these desirable forms of sexism are rooted in traditional gender roles and feminists don't seem to find them any less attractive than non-feminists.

Saiwania wrote:Yes! This in my view, is confirming what the Conservative movement knew all along. Tons of women might pretend to like Feminist claptrap, but in reality, most ladies aren't into it. Instead, they're fine with a man who knows his place and expects women to know theirs and treats them accordingly. Women aren't inferior to men, it is just that men are traditionally the ones that're supposed to get out there and earn the money and status for a household. The women are better suited for the child rearing.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:45 pm

Study: Flattery works on all humans and defies feminism even in feminists.


It'd be like a study finding bears poop in the woods.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:51 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:Study: Flattery works on all humans and defies feminism even in feminists.


It'd be like a study finding bears poop in the woods.


No, it's not "flattery works" it's "women like sexism."
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:06 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Study: Flattery works on all humans and defies feminism even in feminists.


It'd be like a study finding bears poop in the woods.


No, it's not "flattery works" it's "women like sexism."

Putting women on a pedestal is both flattery and sexism at the same time. And these methods work because humans are inherently lazy and seek protection. That's why anarchy is never long lasting and why an obesity epidemic exists when food supplies are ample and life requires less physical labor than 50 years ago.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:10 pm

I find certain studies suspect. Especially if they poll small groups.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:17 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I find certain studies suspect. Especially if they poll small groups.

While I suspect the findings may be accurate but suspect an evolutionary advantage that given how slow evolution works means that most people still have the brains structurally of 100-200 years ago where benevolent sexism assured a higher chance of a child making it through infancy. It is obsolete, but the brain doesn't change as fast as the circumstances in which humanity lives in now.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:26 pm

The typical woman probably likes being showered with male attention if its from a man she's attracted to in a physical sense, but it is probably also possible to be too "nice" to where you're off putting and at that point she'd be turned off enough to reject you. You can't wait on her hand and foot for literally everything, if you put her on a pedestal too much; this is also bad. I'd say the key thing is to be able to tell her "No."

What you want to do is be like a sine wave. Make her feel special but don't pay her too much attention afterwards, get her to crave your return and repeat as needed. It has to be like an adventure where she wants to follow your lead. If this doesn't work, it means you lost her interest at some point in this process. You were too incompetent, boring, or not her type.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:30 pm

Study proves women prefer sexist attitudes as long as it benefits them. In other news, water is wet, and Catholic bears shit on the Pope in the woods.
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Postby US-SSR » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:27 pm

A metastudy in a nonrigorous "journal." Meh. "Benevolent Sexism" = BS.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:34 pm

So what, we have revealed the shocking news that people are selfish and thus more attracted toward the type of mate who is going to put more time and effort into their needs?
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Purpelia wrote:So what, we have revealed the shocking news that people are selfish and thus more attracted toward the type of mate who is going to put more time and effort into their needs?

Actually we've revealed that women prefer benevolently sexist men regardless of their opinions on feminism. Would you find yourself more attracted to someone who felt your race was in some aspect fundamentally better than others?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:57 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Purpelia wrote:So what, we have revealed the shocking news that people are selfish and thus more attracted toward the type of mate who is going to put more time and effort into their needs?

Actually we've revealed that women prefer benevolently sexist men regardless of their opinions on feminism. Would you find yourself more attracted to someone who felt your race was in some aspect fundamentally better than others?

I have suggested a proposal that it was an evolutionary feature that is at this point obsolete yet due to how slow gene selection works probably will still exist for thousands of years to come assuming humanity doesn't drive itself to extinction.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:00 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I find certain studies suspect. Especially if they poll small groups.

Let me ask you a question.

If you and I were on my commuter bus together, I got there early and am sitting, you a little later and standing.

If I engaged in the sexist behaviour of offering you my seat, would you think better or worse of me?
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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:02 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:I have suggested a proposal that it was an evolutionary feature that is at this point obsolete yet due to how slow gene selection works probably will still exist for thousands of years to come assuming humanity doesn't drive itself to extinction.


There might be some truth to that and if studies done in multiple countries showed similar results it would be the most likely possibility. Of course I don't know what culturally would influence it if feminism doesn't seem to have an effect.
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It's almost as if our instincts are for men to be protective of women.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:15 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Nobody said destroyed, he specifically said it torpedoed the idea of feminism was interested in breaking down male gender roles. That's not necessarily a valid leap but these desirable forms of sexism are rooted in traditional gender roles and feminists don't seem to find them any less attractive than non-feminists.

Saiwania wrote:Yes! This in my view, is confirming what the Conservative movement knew all along. Tons of women might pretend to like Feminist claptrap, but in reality, most ladies aren't into it. Instead, they're fine with a man who knows his place and expects women to know theirs and treats them accordingly. Women aren't inferior to men, it is just that men are traditionally the ones that're supposed to get out there and earn the money and status for a household. The women are better suited for the child rearing.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:14 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I find certain studies suspect. Especially if they poll small groups.

Let me ask you a question.

If you and I were on my commuter bus together, I got there early and am sitting, you a little later and standing.

If I engaged in the sexist behaviour of offering you my seat, would you think better or worse of me?


I don't think that is a sexist behavior, you see. It comes across, to me at least, as just common courtesy. Just like I wouldn't bat an eyelash if you didn't offer me a sit. Heck, if I were sitting down and I thought you, as an older person, needed the seat because of some reason -tired, hurting, age-, I'd offer it to you (whether you're a man or a woman).
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:27 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Let me ask you a question.

If you and I were on my commuter bus together, I got there early and am sitting, you a little later and standing.

If I engaged in the sexist behaviour of offering you my seat, would you think better or worse of me?


I don't think that is a sexist behavior, you see. It comes across, to me at least, as just common courtesy. Just like I wouldn't bat an eyelash if you didn't offer me a sit. Heck, if I were sitting down and I thought you, as an older person, needed the seat because of some reason -tired, hurting, age-, I'd offer it to you (whether you're a man or a woman).

I would say it is, but I would also say your offering me your seat is
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:28 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I don't think that is a sexist behavior, you see. It comes across, to me at least, as just common courtesy. Just like I wouldn't bat an eyelash if you didn't offer me a sit. Heck, if I were sitting down and I thought you, as an older person, needed the seat because of some reason -tired, hurting, age-, I'd offer it to you (whether you're a man or a woman).

I would say it is, but I would also say your offering me your seat is
benign ageism.


I honestly don't see it but ok. ;)
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:38 pm

Who would've thought!?

It's not like it's basically hardwired into our goddamn brains or something.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:52 pm

There's also been studies recently (still seeking participants) that show left wing people, those under 40, and the college educated tend to have a negative view of men and a positive view of women ("Benevolent" sexism, if you insist on gynocentric terminology), whereas the right wing, those over 40, and those without a college education tend to view them either equally (Equality!), or are pro-male and anti-woman (Hostile sexism, traditionalism).

https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs/comme ... survey_on/

So these studies on attraction might just be an expression of those trends.

Since college education is a status symbol, and women are overrepresented there, as well as the fact feminism is rife and institutionalised there, it probably also has an impact on desirability.

If you had anti-vaxxers just utterly dominate university and indoctrinate people and so on, anti-vaxxer ideology would be seen as attractive. Lots of factors here.

It arguably aligns with previous data saying everyone, including feminists, think feminists are less attractive partners for the opposite sex.

(Male feminist, not benevolently sexist. Female feminist, misandrist.)
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Postby Telconi » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:19 pm

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Saiwania wrote:Yes! This in my view, is confirming what the Conservative movement knew all along. Tons of women might pretend to like Feminist claptrap, but in reality, most ladies aren't into it. Instead, they're fine with a man who knows his place and expects women to know theirs and treats them accordingly. Women aren't inferior to men, it is just that men are traditionally the ones that're supposed to get out there and earn the money and status for a household. The women are better suited for the child rearing.

But why? Can't a woman work a job, and the man rear the child? Not saying that it has to be like this, but what's stopping it?


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