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by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:29 am
by San Lumen » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:31 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"But at least he is owning the stinky rapefugee loving libtards! And even if he is doing this, BBC is fake news!"- Edgy shit posters, probably
Seriously, I think Hungry should start to sing out against this moron.
Sad to see the state of the country my grandparents came from.
by Trumptonium1 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:31 am
by Imperializt Russia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:31 am
The Grims wrote:What happens if the company goes bankrupt a year or so after your overtime ? Are the backwages lost ?
And what if you switch employers in the 3 year period ?
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Novus Wrepland » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:34 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:Dishonest OP forgets to mention that employees can refuse to work extra overtime outside of their contracted hours, and Hungary is simply putting their law exactly in line with UK laws on working hours which prohibit working more than 48 hours a week unless the employee explicitly makes a written statement, which is not currently possible in Hungary where the employee is limited to 44 hours a week with no exceptions. This law allows the employee to bypass these restrictions if they wish to do so.
Contrary to the statements of the leftists in the thread above, not everyone on the planet is lazy and entitled, and some want to work longer and get paid more as a result. Hungary's laws do not allow them to do so.
Surprise surprise.
by The Grims » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:34 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:Dishonest OP forgets to mention that employees can refuse to work extra overtime outside of their contracted hours
by Imperializt Russia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:36 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:Dishonest OP forgets to mention that employees can refuse to work extra overtime outside of their contracted hours, and Hungary is simply putting their law exactly in line with UK laws on working hours which prohibit working more than 48 hours a week unless the employee explicitly makes a written statement, which is not currently possible in Hungary where the employee is limited to 44 hours a week with no exceptions. This law allows the employee to bypass these restrictions if they wish to do so.
Contrary to the statements of the leftists in the thread above, not everyone on the planet is lazy and entitled, and some want to work longer and get paid more as a result. Hungary's laws do not allow them to do so.
Surprise surprise.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Thermodolia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:38 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:38 am
San Lumen wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"But at least he is owning the stinky rapefugee loving libtards! And even if he is doing this, BBC is fake news!"- Edgy shit posters, probably
Seriously, I think Hungry should start to sing out against this moron.
Sad to see the state of the country my grandparents came from.
It would be nearly impossible to get him out. His party cannot lose an election.
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Contrary to the statements of the leftists in the thread above, not everyone on the planet is lazy and entitled,
by Novus Wrepland » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:40 am
Thermodolia wrote:Oh no the poor people having to work an extra day a week. Oh the horror.
Slavery really? Get your damn priorities in order
by Thermodolia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:47 am
by Trumptonium1 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:51 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:Dishonest OP forgets to mention that employees can refuse to work extra overtime outside of their contracted hours, and Hungary is simply putting their law exactly in line with UK laws on working hours which prohibit working more than 48 hours a week unless the employee explicitly makes a written statement, which is not currently possible in Hungary where the employee is limited to 44 hours a week with no exceptions. This law allows the employee to bypass these restrictions if they wish to do so.
Contrary to the statements of the leftists in the thread above, not everyone on the planet is lazy and entitled, and some want to work longer and get paid more as a result. Hungary's laws do not allow them to do so.
Surprise surprise.
Working "no more than 44 hours per week, no exceptions" seems to fly right in the face of reporting that Hungary's existing overtime allowance - which the BBC frame as "what employers are allowed to demand of their workers" - of 250 hours.
Imperializt Russia wrote:In my current job, I don't have the right to refuse overtime outside of my contracted hours (I have signed the relevant declaration), because my working hours are defined as "Monday to Sunday inclusive". But, my contracted hours are only for 40 hours a week, 5 days Monday-Friday.
And guess when I get paid for my overtime?
About 30 times faster than Hungarians will.
Novus Wrepland wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:Dishonest OP forgets to mention that employees can refuse to work extra overtime outside of their contracted hours, and Hungary is simply putting their law exactly in line with UK laws on working hours which prohibit working more than 48 hours a week unless the employee explicitly makes a written statement, which is not currently possible in Hungary where the employee is limited to 44 hours a week with no exceptions. This law allows the employee to bypass these restrictions if they wish to do so.
Contrary to the statements of the leftists in the thread above, not everyone on the planet is lazy and entitled, and some want to work longer and get paid more as a result. Hungary's laws do not allow them to do so.
Surprise surprise.
And what about the three year delay thing. Is that normal?
by Telconi » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:56 am
by Novus Wrepland » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:04 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:The timescale isn't, but withholding pay is. Three years is pretty shit, no idea why that's there. In the UK it's a maximum of six months. Currently it's 1 year in Hungary, which is pretty standard for the region and other manufacturing-based economies.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/ ... ting-paid/
Vice president of Confederation of Vasas Trade Unions told leftist daily Népszava that “in summary, this would mean that workers should work harder for less money.” The extension of the compensation period would involve disputes since employees may not be able to remember events which occurred years earlier, leaving them open to abuse.
by Trumptonium1 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:08 am
Novus Wrepland wrote:Trumptonium1 wrote:The timescale isn't, but withholding pay is. Three years is pretty shit, no idea why that's there. In the UK it's a maximum of six months. Currently it's 1 year in Hungary, which is pretty standard for the region and other manufacturing-based economies.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/ ... ting-paid/
https://hungarytoday.hu/implementation-of-slave-law-accompanied-by-demonstrations-controversies-and-4-hour-debate/Vice president of Confederation of Vasas Trade Unions told leftist daily Népszava that “in summary, this would mean that workers should work harder for less money.” The extension of the compensation period would involve disputes since employees may not be able to remember events which occurred years earlier, leaving them open to abuse.
Seems clear.
by Novus Wrepland » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:12 am
by Risottia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:12 am
Trumptonium1 wrote:Dishonest OP forgets
by Sicaris » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:12 am
by Risottia » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:19 am
Sicaris wrote:Oh no! We can choose to work a couple extra hours a week for more pay! How dreadful!
Seriously, OP, please tell the ENTIRE story with stuff like this..not just your view.
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