That new anti-privacy law they passed in Australia...

[Pax Nerdvana]

Don't care. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Until a corrupt official tries to find something in your personal life and tries to blackmail you with it, or takes something you say completely out of context to go after you. Unless you are perfectly ok with living in a transparent glass house, there are things you do that you don't want others to see.

I agree. You can't trust the government to be responsible. We must be ever vigilant and watchful of the government.

[Sacara]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

[Ifreann]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

I have lots of things to hide. None of them are terrorism or any kind of threat to other people.

[Page]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Speak for yourself, I'll keep my liberty and make my own security.

[Polszcza]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Very true.

Let me add: Group/Society > individual

Individualism is nothing more than the political face of clinical sociopathy.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Speak for yourself, I'll keep my liberty and make my own security.

In the wise words of Patrick Henry,"Give me liberty, or give me death!"

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Very true.

Let me add: Group/Society > individual

Individualism is nothing more than the political face of clinical sociopathy.

Collectivism is nothing more than tyranny of the majority or large groups.

[-Ocelot-]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Privacy and security go hand in hand.

[Polszcza]

Very true.

Let me add: Group/Society > individual

Individualism is nothing more than the political face of clinical sociopathy.

Collectivism is nothing more than tyranny of the majority or large groups.

You're in a society, then abide by its laws and customs. Society exists to provide man a better existence than mere subsistence/survival.

[Hystaria]

Don't care. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

But I don't see how this would work though. Are the Australian feds able to force Google and Apple to create a backdoor and how will this work internationally? But even if they can figure it out, don't care. Nothing to hide

Well i still dont want some stranger to look at my personal thoughts and storys that i try to write. That would make it even harder to copyright.

[Hystaria]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

I can hide things, and they can be legal, and how does this increase security. If a terrorist needed to get information, why would they store it withen their own account. This would only work if the world followed this law, and even then, if the are criminals they coul just learn how to bypass the restrictions. All this does is make people insecure about their own privacy.

[Australian rePublic]

Don't care. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

But I don't see how this would work though. Are the Australian feds able to force Google and Apple to create a backdoor and how will this work internationally? But even if they can figure it out, don't care. Nothing to hide

Well i still dont want some stranger to look at my personal thoughts and storys that i try to write. That would make it even harder to copyright.

Oh shit! I nevet thought of that! Oh well! If anyone did steal my Intellectual Property and claim it as their own, I could sue them

[Australian rePublic]

Don't care. Security > Privacy. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

I can hide things, and they can be legal, and how does this increase security. If a terrorist needed to get information, why would they store it withen their own account.

Lone wolf attacks. If you did gain this information, you wouldn't tell anyone. Not just terrorists. Pedophiles, theives, murders, drug dealers, stalkers, take your pick

[Australian rePublic]

Speak for yourself, I'll keep my liberty and make my own security.

In the wise words of Patrick Henry,"Give me liberty, or give me death!"

Nobody is stealing your liberty. No one will stop you from doing what you were gonna do anyway, provided that what you were doing is legal

[Costa Fierro]

Last time I heard anything about Australian politicians, they were suggesting spinning a chocolate wheel to decide who becomes Prime Minister for the next two months.

Does the winner get to eat the wheel?

It's not what you think it is.

[Stellar Colonies]

Everyone has things they do (That are legal) that they wouldn't want anybody else to know about.

A fetish that they would be embarrassed about, for example.

[Estanglia]

Don't care. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

I have many things I would like to remain private. None are illegal, but i'd rather not have someone know my dark secrets, or store them somewhere, because of the potential that this could be used against me.

Also, the thought that everything I'm doing is being monitored scares me for the simple fact that, whether or not they care, there is someone out there who knows my secrets, or that they are stored somewhere. I like my secrets private, or only known by the people I choose to tell.

[Hystaria]

and i will say it again, the criminals who would abuse the internet, would find another way. This is just privacy infringement.
Looking at underage porn is illegal, but these types of people would still find a way to have such.

I would rather have the government stop trying to breath down our neck, and try to stop these people more effectivly.

If it is information that they would want to see, the terrorist could just write down what they want/seen.

If they are recruiting, TEACH the people in your nation of the falsities that they say.

etc

[Hystaria]

Well i still dont want some stranger to look at my personal thoughts and storys that i try to write. That would make it even harder to copyright.

Oh shit! I nevet thought of that! Oh well! If anyone did steal my Intellectual Property and claim it as their own, I could sue them

Well they just could claim that they thought it too,also you cant sue, because you cant know who is viewing you, and that cant trademark it until it is finished.

[Forsher]

Oh shit! I nevet thought of that! Oh well! If anyone did steal my Intellectual Property and claim it as their own, I could sue them

Well they just could claim that they thought it too,also you cant sue, because you cant know who is viewing you, and that cant trademark it until it is finished.

Copyrights and trademarks are completely different. For one thing, copyright is automatic. And with trademarks if someone wanted to steal one they'd have to understand what it was they'd be stealing. Similarly, in a legal dispute it would be established where it comes from.

[Aclion]

Well, yes, they could. This would also involve not just incompetent but actively illiterate investigator.

That sounds like a government employee to me.

[Forsher]

Well, yes, they could. This would also involve not just incompetent but actively illiterate investigator.

That sounds like a government employee to me.

Yeah, but not really.

[The National Salvation Front for Russia]

This isn't a big deal. I've got nothing to hide, and I'm not a paranoid nut who fears a 180-turn to dictatorship. This is Australia ffs, the PM-a-year country.

[Polszcza]

This isn't a big deal. I've got nothing to hide, and I'm not a paranoid nut who fears a 180-turn to dictatorship. This is Australia ffs, the PM-a-year country.

This guy gets it.

[Scomagia]

This isn't a big deal. I've got nothing to hide, and I'm not a paranoid nut who fears a 180-turn to dictatorship. This is Australia ffs, the PM-a-year country.

Yeah, just ignore that stable liberal democracies possess the potential for corruption and degradation into tyranny. "It can't happen here!"