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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:20 am

New haven america wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:What's with their school system?

A lot of American children are sociopathic little shits whose parents either don't care that they're like that or actively support and defend them.

I've heard from Europeans that it's kinda like that over there as well.


Oh no, it's happening agaaaaaaaaaaain.

Reminder that fatherlessness is not merely a family issue but a societal one as Gallos earlier thread pointed out studies for. Children are heavily influenced by their peers, and negative effects of fatherlessness of one child can be offset by being involved in a community where it isn't the norm and having peers with fathers, so the negative effects associated with fatherlessness tend to correlate with fatherlessness being a norm in an area. In addition to that, high rates of fatherlessness in an area dull the impact of families which do have fathers.

Those negative effects include but are not limited to lower empathy, lower social intelligence, and more anti-social behavior among both boys and girls. (One of the reasons it tends to persist over generations once it's broken.)

For the Black community this problem is two-fold, you've got the racism shit incarcerating black fathers, and you've got the normalization of single motherhood due to anti-male attitudes and practices and the persistent devaluation of fatherhood.

This problem is compounded by a lack of male influence in schools and so on.
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Postby Page » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:55 am

Did I miss the part that elaborated that all of the bullies were black and none were white, or am I supposed to just assume this because it fits a reactionary narrative?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:57 am

Kaggeceria wrote:Terrible.
A black 9-year-old girl in Alabama allegedly took her own life after facing relentless bullying and racism in class, according to reports.

McKenzie Adams’ relatives said she hanged herself Dec. 3 in her home in Linden, about 100 miles west of Montgomery, and was discovered by her grandmother, according to the Tuscaloosa News.

Since the start of the school year, the fourth-grader had been the target of bullying at US Jones Elementary School, where she was teased over her friendship with a white male classmate, according to her family.

Her aunt, Eddwina Harris, said the group of students taunted McKenzie by telling her to commit suicide.

“She was being bullied the entire school year, with words such as ‘kill yourself,’ ‘you think you’re white because you ride with that white boy,’ ‘you ugly,’ ‘black bitch,’ ‘just die,’” Harris told the newspaper.

Harris said she’s speaking out about her niece’s death because she wants to promote anti-bullying.

“There are so many voiceless kids,” Harris said. “God is opening great doors for justice for my niece.”

Truly a terrible incident. A child not even ten years of age being driven to suicide for having a white friend is heartbreaking. This brings to light an interesting problem: how much of a problem is anti-white racism in minority communities? Clearly if a young girl was bullied to the point of suicide over it then it is an issue that needs to be addressed. If we are to live in this diverse utopia then we need to be able to coexist.

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This is unacceptable.

Will the bullies be punished?

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Postby Bombadil » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:01 am

Page wrote:Did I miss the part that elaborated that all of the bullies were black and none were white, or am I supposed to just assume this because it fits a reactionary narrative?


Ethel M kindly posted the demographic breakdown of the school at 56% black and 44% white - although I remember 2% Asian and 2% other but I'm on a phone so don't feel like tabbing to check but should be roughly right - so there's not too much to suggest this wasn't essentially just plain bullying with a racist tinge as the angle to it either way. The article is quite low on details.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:18 am

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Page wrote:Did I miss the part that elaborated that all of the bullies were black and none were white, or am I supposed to just assume this because it fits a reactionary narrative?


Ethel M kindly posted the demographic breakdown of the school at 56% black and 44% white - although I remember 2% Asian and 2% other but I'm on a phone so don't feel like tabbing to check but should be roughly right - so there's not too much to suggest this wasn't essentially just plain bullying with a racist tinge as the angle to it either way. The article is quite low on details.


But it's being pushed towards the anti-white racism side by the thread for the previously described narrative reasons.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:27 am

What a waste of a fucking life. Utter fucking cunts.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:42 am

Geneviev wrote:That's not great. She was too young to deal with any of that. It does seem to be normal in high school, though elementary school is too early.

It's normal at any age, tbh.

Source: Dealt with it in Elementary and Middle School.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:43 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
New haven america wrote:A lot of American children are sociopathic little shits whose parents either don't care that they're like that or actively support and defend them.

I've heard from Europeans that it's kinda like that over there as well.


Oh no, it's happening agaaaaaaaaaaain.

Reminder that fatherlessness...

I stopped reading right about there.
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Postby Frievolk » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:45 am

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Ostroeuropa wrote:
Oh no, it's happening agaaaaaaaaaaain.

Reminder that fatherlessness...

I stopped reading right about there.

You actually read up to that point? At this point, I skip anything Ostro posts tbh.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:47 am

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New haven america wrote:I stopped reading right about there.

You actually read up to that point? At this point, I skip anything Ostro posts tbh.

I do it in the vain hope that he might stop doing posts like that and actually add to the topic.

Hopefully... maybe... someday...
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Postby Duhon » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:58 am

New haven america wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's not great. She was too young to deal with any of that. It does seem to be normal in high school, though elementary school is too early.

It's normal at any age, tbh.

Source: Dealt with it in Elementary and Middle School.


That's sad, that's depressing. I mean, I wasn't immune to bullying myself, but no kid would wish death on another.

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Postby Geneviev » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:37 am

New haven america wrote:
Geneviev wrote:That's not great. She was too young to deal with any of that. It does seem to be normal in high school, though elementary school is too early.

It's normal at any age, tbh.

Source: Dealt with it in Elementary and Middle School.

Bullying maybe, but not for that reason, I hope.

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New haven america wrote:It's normal at any age, tbh.

Source: Dealt with it in Elementary and Middle School.


That's sad, that's depressing. I mean, I wasn't immune to bullying myself, but no kid would wish death on another.

It does happen. Kids are cruel sometimes.
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Postby Let Me Post » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:56 am

A truly sad incident.

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Postby Hirota » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:59 am

Torrocca wrote:Can we even consider this anti-white racism if we don't even know what race the bullies were? :thonk:
Well, obviously we have to know the colour of the bullies so we know who to blame. We should blame either BLM or Trump, obviously
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Postby Herskerstad » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:08 am

Kaggeceria wrote:
Her aunt, Eddwina Harris, said the group of students taunted McKenzie by telling her to commit suicide.

“She was being bullied the entire school year, with words such as ‘kill yourself,’ ‘you think you’re white because you ride with that white boy,’ ‘you ugly,’ ‘black bitch,’ ‘just die,’” Harris told the newspaper.



9 Is the new 13 it seems, and years back it was 11.

Guessing it's a double screw-over, shitty parental environment with an equally shitty school that lets them largely get away with it, letting the kids sanction the rules on 'snitching' and the likes. Seen too much of that for one life.
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Postby The Grims » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:02 am

Page wrote:Did I miss the part that elaborated that all of the bullies were black and none were white, or am I supposed to just assume this because it fits a reactionary narrative?

Does it matter ? Saying you should stick with your own race is racism, regardless of the skincolour of the person saying it.

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Postby Kannap » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:57 am

As somebody who works with children, news of bad things happening to children is always incredibly heartbreaking to me.
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Postby Mercuriuseudoro » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:01 am

Kaggeceria wrote:This brings to light an interesting problem: how much of a problem is anti-white racism in minority communities?
Thoughts?


I'm confused - why is this a problem?

Do you think that minority communities should be forcibly assimilated into white society?
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Kaggeceria wrote:This brings to light an interesting problem: how much of a problem is anti-white racism in minority communities?
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I'm confused - why is this a problem?

Do you think that minority communities should be forcibly assimilated into white society?


I think not, but when other kids of the same race as this little girl bully her to the point that she commits suicide just because she's hanging out with a white friend, then its a terrible, and serious problem.
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Page wrote:Did I miss the part that elaborated that all of the bullies were black and none were white, or am I supposed to just assume this because it fits a reactionary narrative?

Does it matter ? Saying you should stick with your own race is racism, regardless of the skincolour of the person saying it.


It matters because the OP is trying to present this incident as an example of anti-white racism without proof.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:16 pm

New haven america wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Oh no, it's happening agaaaaaaaaaaain.

Reminder that fatherlessness...

I stopped reading right about there.

Why?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:36 pm

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New haven america wrote:I stopped reading right about there.

Why?


Because we have no evidence to suggest that the girl in question had an absent father, for one.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:44 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Why?


Because we have no evidence to suggest that the girl in question had an absent father, for one.

It seems to me like maybe you simply didn't understand what he was saying. I believe he was referring to the bullies and not the girl. In fact, it's obvious that's what he meant. You'd need to have read the whole thing, of course, but it's obvious. Funny enough, this is the problem with not actually reading all of what someone said. So, maybe don't arbitrarily assume someone's meaning when they're actually telling you what they mean.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:00 pm

I've read the article and I see no evidence of anti-white racism. Regardless of the race, the bullies who done this should be severely punished.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:03 pm

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Vassenor wrote:
Because we have no evidence to suggest that the girl in question had an absent father, for one.

It seems to me like maybe you simply didn't understand what he was saying. I believe he was referring to the bullies and not the girl. In fact, it's obvious that's what he meant. You'd need to have read the whole thing, of course, but it's obvious. Funny enough, this is the problem with not actually reading all of what someone said. So, maybe don't arbitrarily assume someone's meaning when they're actually telling you what they mean.


So what evidence do we have of absent fathers on the part of any of the bullies?
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