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Postby New haven america » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:11 pm

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Kaggeceria wrote:Seems more like other blacks not wanting her to associate with whites.


Doesn't quite gel with "you're black, you're ugly".

You've never heard of intraracial discrimination?

It's quite a problem in the African American community. Basically the tone of your skin determines how good you look, how trustworthy you are, how sexually promiscuous you are, etc...

In this case darker skinned African Americans are seen as uglier, poorer, and even stupider by the greater African American population.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:14 pm

Saiwania wrote:Well, some people just can't handle adversity. She might've eventually faced a lot worse in the real world. She probably wouldn't make it if something as minor as this was enough to get her to quit life.


FimFlams comedy series leaps to mind.

https://youtu.be/ojT5Ra1vPy4?list=PLNC_ ... gG6A&t=382

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(About a minute.)

Taylor - "So i notice there's this temple here within walking distance to a town and it's got that great big eyeball that vaporises anyone who goes near it."
Ray - "You know if I was from that town i'd put together a plan to destroy that thing."
Taylor - "Yeah, the kids are gonna go down to the valley and one of them is going to get vaporized by that stupid thing."
Peyton - "So be it. Yes. This is Darwin at work."
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You ever see a pack of animals attack another pack?

Do you see the Painted Wolves waiting for their kids to get picked off by Hyenas and going "So be it, if they weren't chumps they'd survive.".
No, the adults fight for their offspring.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:16 pm

Saiwania wrote:Well, some people just can't handle adversity. She might've eventually faced a lot worse in the real world. She probably wouldn't make it if something as minor as this was enough to get her to quit life.

She was a child. What sort of bizzaro universe do you live in where it's acceptable to mock a child's death?
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:17 pm

Saiwania wrote:Well, some people just can't handle adversity. She might've eventually faced a lot worse in the real world. She probably wouldn't make it if something as minor as this was enough to get her to quit life.

First off, way too fucking soon. Christ man.

Second, she was a child. Children are not known for having the emotional maturity needed for a healthy thick skin.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:20 pm

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Saiwania wrote:Well, some people just can't handle adversity. She might've eventually faced a lot worse in the real world. She probably wouldn't make it if something as minor as this was enough to get her to quit life.

She was a child. What sort of bizzaro universe do you live in where it's acceptable to mock a child's death?

The same one where all human races evolved from different animals, where black people can't have blue/green eyes and brown/blond hair, where evolution doesn't really exist as we know it, etc...

He also kinda praised the death of Amanda Todd, claiming she was too weak to handle real life.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:21 pm

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Kaggeceria wrote:...This brings to light an interesting problem: how much of a problem is anti-white racism in minority communities?...

Thoughts?


Ask the white Zimbabweans after Mugabe took office.

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Postby Special Aromas » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:38 pm

It's not anti-white racism. It's "black-people-gotta-act-black" bullshit. White people might not understand, but I'm sure the POCs here will.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm

New haven america wrote:
Scomagia wrote:She was a child. What sort of bizzaro universe do you live in where it's acceptable to mock a child's death?

The same one where all human's evolved from different animals, where black people can't have blue/green eyes and brown/blond hair, where evolution doesn't really exist as we know it, etc...

He also kinda praised the death of Amanda Todd, claiming she was too weak to handle real life.

That universe sounds like a dismal shithole. I think I'd kill myself if I ever had to go there.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 pm

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New haven america wrote:The same one where all human's evolved from different animals, where black people can't have blue/green eyes and brown/blond hair, where evolution doesn't really exist as we know it, etc...

He also kinda praised the death of Amanda Todd, claiming she was too weak to handle real life.

That universe sounds like a dismal shithole. I think I'd kill myself if I ever had to go there.


Skyrim. We're talking about Skyrim.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

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Scomagia wrote:That universe sounds like a dismal shithole. I think I'd kill myself if I ever had to go there.


Skyrim. We're talking about Skyrim.

I get it now. I thought those were references to Saiwana's incessant white supremacist garbage.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:55 pm

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Ostroeuropa wrote:
Skyrim. We're talking about Skyrim.

I get it now. I thought those were references to Saiwana's incessant white supremacist garbage.

Sai's a White Supremacist?

I thought he was just a bloody Stormcloak...
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:00 pm

Special Aromas wrote:It's not anti-white racism. It's "black-people-gotta-act-black" bullshit. White people might not understand, but I'm sure the POCs here will.


Well there's a degree of 'acting white is giving in to the man, man..' - it's different from racism in seeing another race as inferior and more the idea of not accepting a white designed world. I remember sitting with a friend from Nigeria who was talking to me about dinner, where the man sits at the head of the table and the mother brings in food and everyone eats with knives and forks. This is a white picture, a white family image that everyone else suddenly buys into in a modern world. It's presented as normal, normal being a white nuclear family.

The trouble is it means education is viewed with suspicion, as buying into this world and betraying heritage. It narrows choice through peer pressure. This poor girl should have had the choice to make friends with who she pleased but alas..
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:02 pm

New haven america wrote:
Scomagia wrote:I get it now. I thought those were references to Saiwana's incessant white supremacist garbage.

Sai's a White Supremacist?

I thought he was just a bloody Stormcloak...

Smells like faithless Imperials in here.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Do you see the Painted Wolves waiting for their kids to get picked off by Hyenas and going "So be it, if they weren't chumps they'd survive." No, the adults fight for their offspring.


You can help but you can't fight all or even most of your children's battles for them. I think there might've been low to no communication between this kid and her family or they weren't equipped to give good advice or recruit outside help because they're too busy working to pay bills and etc.

Even if she was one of the unpopular ones, there are actions that can be taken which have the net effect of people not bothering them so much anymore and not being bothered by other people either. If their school experience is bad, it is from simply not knowing how the outside world works and not understanding how various people operate in terms of socialization or are unaware or in denial of how they're failing to meet unsaid expectations on some level.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:07 pm

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New haven america wrote:Sai's a White Supremacist?

I thought he was just a bloody Stormcloak...

Smells like faithless Imperials in here.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:11 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:12 pm

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Kaggeceria wrote:Seems more like other blacks not wanting her to associate with whites.


Doesn't quite gel with "you're black, you're ugly".

Could be along the lines of you’re black, and black people don’t hang with white
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:18 pm

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Kaggeceria wrote:Seems more like other blacks not wanting her to associate with whites.


Doesn't quite gel with "you're black, you're ugly".


Probably because those were two separate insults according to the article.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:22 pm

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Special Aromas wrote:It's not anti-white racism. It's "black-people-gotta-act-black" bullshit. White people might not understand, but I'm sure the POCs here will.


Well there's a degree of 'acting white is giving in to the man, man..' - it's different from racism in seeing another race as inferior and more the idea of not accepting a white designed world. I remember sitting with a friend from Nigeria who was talking to me about dinner, where the man sits at the head of the table and the mother brings in food and everyone eats with knives and forks. This is a white picture, a white family image that everyone else suddenly buys into in a modern world. It's presented as normal, normal being a white nuclear family.

The trouble is it means education is viewed with suspicion, as buying into this world and betraying heritage. It narrows choice through peer pressure. This poor girl should have had the choice to make friends with who she pleased but alas..

And it’s worth note this isn’t a restricted to Nigeria thing. I’ve actually discussed toxic blackness on NSG before and my experience trying to help people overcome it here in the US.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:23 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:“She was being bullied the entire school year, with words such as ‘kill yourself,’ ‘you think you’re white because you ride with that white boy,’ ‘you ugly,’ ‘black bitch,’ ‘just die,’” Harris told the newspaper.

...what sort of primary school children talk like that? They sound like straight-up sociopaths.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:24 pm

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Kaggeceria wrote:“She was being bullied the entire school year, with words such as ‘kill yourself,’ ‘you think you’re white because you ride with that white boy,’ ‘you ugly,’ ‘black bitch,’ ‘just die,’” Harris told the newspaper.

...what sort of primary school children talk like that? They sound like straight-up sociopaths.

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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:24 pm

New haven america wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Doesn't quite gel with "you're black, you're ugly".

You've never heard of intraracial discrimination?

It's quite a problem in the African American community. Basically the tone of your skin determines how good you look, how trustworthy you are, how sexually promiscuous you are, etc...

In this case darker skinned African Americans are seen as uglier, poorer, and even stupider by the greater African American population.

Didn't Maya Angelou talk about that, or something like that, in I know why the caged bird sings?
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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:25 pm

Galloism wrote:
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Well there's a degree of 'acting white is giving in to the man, man..' - it's different from racism in seeing another race as inferior and more the idea of not accepting a white designed world. I remember sitting with a friend from Nigeria who was talking to me about dinner, where the man sits at the head of the table and the mother brings in food and everyone eats with knives and forks. This is a white picture, a white family image that everyone else suddenly buys into in a modern world. It's presented as normal, normal being a white nuclear family.

The trouble is it means education is viewed with suspicion, as buying into this world and betraying heritage. It narrows choice through peer pressure. This poor girl should have had the choice to make friends with who she pleased but alas..

And it’s worth note this isn’t a restricted to Nigeria thing. I’ve actually discussed toxic blackness on NSG before and my experience trying to help people overcome it here in the US.

Not surprised really. On the other side of the fence, there's those "self-hating whites" that "want to destroy their culture". Also, third worlders who are perceived as betraying their national identity and "trying to be a westerner".
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Postby New haven america » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:26 pm

Liriena wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:“She was being bullied the entire school year, with words such as ‘kill yourself,’ ‘you think you’re white because you ride with that white boy,’ ‘you ugly,’ ‘black bitch,’ ‘just die,’” Harris told the newspaper.

...what sort of primary school children talk like that? They sound like straight-up sociopaths.

Welcome to the American school system! \o/
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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:27 pm

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Liriena wrote:...what sort of primary school children talk like that? They sound like straight-up sociopaths.

Welcome to American schools. Kids are evil yo

Sounds like they're having lots of heated gaming moments IRL holy shit

I feel terrible for this girl and her family... and her friend, too.
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