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Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Olerand wrote:He would be refused citizenship, and thus would need to leave.

Why, for not wanting to forget my American heritage?

Not not wanting to assimilate into your host country.

Purgatio wrote:

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Diversity attacks don't exist.

Some Muslims think it's haram

I see...well people who will refuse to ever touch someone from the opposite sex are gonna have serious trouble integrating into mainstream society that is largely gender-egalitarian, so many events will be off the table for an entire community.

No it's not. An alternative greeting is putting your hand on your heart. Muslim can just do that. Also, hand shaking doesn't happen for every greeting. Some people don't shake hands at all.

Kaggeceria wrote:

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Why, for not wanting to forget my American heritage?

Not not wanting to assimilate into your host country.

Well I don't support assimilation, so

Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
I see...well people who will refuse to ever touch someone from the opposite sex are gonna have serious trouble integrating into mainstream society that is largely gender-egalitarian, so many events will be off the table for an entire community.

No it's not. An alternative greeting is putting your hand on your heart. Muslim can just do that. Also, hand shaking doesn't happen for every greeting. Some people don't shake hands at all.

I usually just say "Hi".

Purgatio wrote:

Olerand wrote:

I'm still laughing that some other French poster called me a pro-Islam leftist...

Haha yeah because not supporting literal pogroms against a group means you must approve of everything that group does or believes in.

Well i never called for outright pogroms...yet. But not wanting serious action is just the same.

Right wing humour squad wrote:

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Diversity attacks don't exist.

Some Muslims think it's haram

Really cause this appears to be one. And it’s not like major cities don’t erect diversity barriers to protect vulnerable people from your mates.

The fuck is a "diversity attack"?

Right wing humour squad wrote:

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Diversity attacks don't exist.

Some Muslims think it's haram

Really cause this appears to be one. And it’s not like major cities don’t erect diversity barriers to protect vulnerable people from your mates.

Diversity barriers don't exist either. Srsly, this is cringy.

Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Kaggeceria wrote:Not not wanting to assimilate into your host country.

Well I don't support assimilation, so

There you go. Atleast this guy is honest (if he's serious).

They don't integrate. And when you don't come here to integrate, then you're here for either tourism... or colonisation.

Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Purgatio wrote:
I see...well people who will refuse to ever touch someone from the opposite sex are gonna have serious trouble integrating into mainstream society that is largely gender-egalitarian, so many events will be off the table for an entire community.

No it's not. An alternative greeting is putting your hand on your heart. Muslim can just do that. Also, hand shaking doesn't happen for every greeting. Some people don't shake hands at all.

But its very alienating, it means living in a society where everytime a woman extends her hand to be shaken you have to give her an extended lecture on why you can't do that. I don't know about you but if I were the woman in that situation I'd feel fairly offended/insulted myself, and I can't imagine I'm alone here. A community with such a rule is probably gonna have trouble integrating properly into the rest of a society that has become very gender-egalitarian at least in thinking and culture.

The South Falls wrote:

Sukberia wrote:
Oh really? Are you sure, as an homossexual, that you'd not rather flee to a much more heart-warming country like Pakistan?

I mean, they are a warzone, so... I don't get what you're asking.

Just a reason to "call out" my sexuality as if anything I say is therefore invalidated.

Kaggeceria wrote:

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Why, for not wanting to forget my American heritage?

Not not wanting to assimilate into your host country.

Harsh. I mean, is keeping the peace not enough proof that he doesn't want your head, but that he wants to keep his?

Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Kaggeceria wrote:Not not wanting to assimilate into your host country.

Well I don't support assimilation, so

Then you won't get citizenship and will probably be deported lmao

Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Kaggeceria wrote:Not not wanting to assimilate into your host country.

Well I don't support assimilation, so

Kannap wrote:

The South Falls wrote:I mean, they are a warzone, so... I don't get what you're asking.

Just a reason to "call out" my sexuality as if anything I say is therefore invalidated.

The "You're LGBT so you aren't allowed to be pro-Muslim" shtick is back?

Kannap wrote:

The South Falls wrote:I mean, they are a warzone, so... I don't get what you're asking.

Just a reason to "call out" my sexuality as if anything I say is therefore invalidated.

It's like yelling "URMOMGAY"

Duhon wrote:

Kaggeceria wrote:Not not wanting to assimilate into your host country.

Harsh. I mean, is keeping the peace not enough proof that he doesn't want your head, but that he wants to keep his?

Erm, what?

Vassenor wrote:

Kannap wrote:
Just a reason to "call out" my sexuality as if anything I say is therefore invalidated.

The "You're LGBT so you aren't allowed to be pro-Muslim" shtick is back?

I thought we were over that!

Sukberia wrote:

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Well I don't support assimilation, so

There you go. Atleast this guy is honest (if he's serious).

They don't integrate. And when you don't come here to integrate, then you're here for either tourism... or colonisation.

I said "assimilate", not "integrate". There's a difference. And immigration =/= colonization.

Purgatio wrote:

Kubumba Tribe wrote:No it's not. An alternative greeting is putting your hand on your heart. Muslim can just do that. Also, hand shaking doesn't happen for every greeting. Some people don't shake hands at all.

But its very alienating, it means living in a society where everytime a woman extends her hand to be shaken you have to give her an extended lecture on why you can't do that. I don't know about you but if I were the woman in that situation I'd feel fairly offended/insulted myself, and I can't imagine I'm alone here. A community with such a rule is probably gonna have trouble integrating properly into the rest of a society that has become very gender-egalitarian at least in thinking and culture.

That's why you explain why. If they don't like it, well tough.

Kannap wrote:

The South Falls wrote:I mean, they are a warzone, so... I don't get what you're asking.

Just a reason to "call out" my sexuality as if anything I say is therefore invalidated.

Not really. Just saying that these people kill homosexuals. But that's ok, you can keep ignoring them. When Sharia law comes to Europe (assuming you live in Europe of course), you can come and say that i was right.

Sukberia wrote:

Olerand wrote:

I'm still laughing that some other French poster called me a pro-Islam leftist...

What was that, you pro-Islam Leftist?

Exactly

Toaslandia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
The "You're LGBT so you aren't allowed to be pro-Muslim" shtick is back?

I thought we were over that!

NSG is never over anything.

Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Sukberia wrote:There you go. Atleast this guy is honest (if he's serious).

They don't integrate. And when you don't come here to integrate, then you're here for either tourism... or colonisation.

I said "assimilate", not "integrate". There's a difference. And immigration =/= colonization.

Purgatio wrote:
But its very alienating, it means living in a society where everytime a woman extends her hand to be shaken you have to give her an extended lecture on why you can't do that. I don't know about you but if I were the woman in that situation I'd feel fairly offended/insulted myself, and I can't imagine I'm alone here. A community with such a rule is probably gonna have trouble integrating properly into the rest of a society that has become very gender-egalitarian at least in thinking and culture.

That's why you explain why. If they don't like it, well tough.

It's easy to say 'well tough' but if you're regularly pissing off and offending lots of non-Muslim women in your everyday life such a person is going to have trouble integrating into society

Sukberia wrote:

Kannap wrote:
Just a reason to "call out" my sexuality as if anything I say is therefore invalidated.

Not really. Just saying that these people kill homosexuals. But that's ok, you can keep ignoring them. When Sharia law comes to Europe (assuming you live in Europe of course), you can come and say that i was right.

That doesn't mean he has to hate Muslims.

Kubumba Tribe wrote:

Right wing humour squad wrote:
Really cause this appears to be one. And it’s not like major cities don’t erect diversity barriers to protect vulnerable people from your mates.

Diversity barriers don't exist either. Srsly, this is cringy.

Yeah they do, we even have them in Australia. Big old concrete blocks stopping your mates from driving cars through crowds.

Sukberia wrote:

Kannap wrote:
Just a reason to "call out" my sexuality as if anything I say is therefore invalidated.

Not really. Just saying that these people kill homosexuals. But that's ok, you can keep ignoring them. When Sharia law comes to Europe (assuming you live in Europe of course), you can come and say that i was right.

>implying that will ever actually get passed