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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Kannap wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yes: latest update from around 15 mins ago: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= ... 8260674026


Link doesn't work.

Man, idk what to do, sry.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Right wing humour squad wrote:
Kannap wrote:
The best part about this thread is that Strasbourg has bounced back and forth between Germany and France so many times tonight and I keep Googling its location just to be sure, even though I know its in France.


Let’s just accept that France is just west Germany and leave it there.

That one's going in the sig.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Olerand wrote:
New haven america wrote:Shhh... Then how will Christians excuse the people holding "God hates Fags" signs?

Say it with me now!

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I frankly don't know what to say. I also heard reports of Jehovah's Witnesses kingdom halls being fire bombed in Washington state. No idea who is behind it or why.

Well, c'est la vie. Though I obviously don't condone violence against them, Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult.


I just see this, and the Strasbourg incident as more examples of religious hate on the rise, by lay people and by the religious too. But like I said before, I won't assume anything regarding Strasbourg. And I shouldn't assume anything regarding the fire bombings in Washington either. But it looks that way.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Right wing humour squad wrote:
Kannap wrote:
The best part about this thread is that Strasbourg has bounced back and forth between Germany and France so many times tonight and I keep Googling its location just to be sure, even though I know its in France.


Let’s just accept that France is just west Germany and leave it there.

As if they had it in them to try and conquer it.

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Postby Otira » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:33 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Islamic topics belong in the IDT. If there's something I want to respond to and it's in a non-related thread, I'm linking my reply go the IDT so the discussion continues.

And Olerand I still don't know what you're talking about.

We've discussed this, numerous times, and like I said, if you insist on not knowing, I'm not addressing it anytime soon.

It's a tactic he repeats ad nauseam. Just ignore him.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Olerand wrote:Say it with me now!


Well, c'est la vie. Though I obviously don't condone violence against them, Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult.


I just see this, and the Strasbourg incident as more examples of religious hate on the rise, by lay people and by the religious too. But like I said before, I won't assume anything regarding Strasbourg. And I shouldn't assume anything regarding the fire bombings in Washington either. But it looks that way.

Yeah, that's true.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:34 pm

Otira wrote:
Olerand wrote:We've discussed this, numerous times, and like I said, if you insist on not knowing, I'm not addressing it anytime soon.

It's a tactic he repeats ad nauseam. Just ignore him.

You shouldn't ignore genuine questions.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:35 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Because Leviticus is for us Jews and not Christians.

Shhh... Then how will Christians excuse the people holding "God hates Fags" signs?

Romans 1:26-27
Corinthians 6:9-10
Timothy 1:9-10

At least when it comes to condemning sodomy as an action, rather than attractions. For instance, Jesus also goes back to referencing Genesis when asked about divorce and makes it clear that marriage is between man and woman, and since the only non-sinful sexual relations can happen within a marriage, that disqualifies homosexual actions (having homosexual attractions is not in of itself sinful, it's the actions that are).
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:35 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
New haven america wrote:Shhh... Then how will Christians excuse the people holding "God hates Fags" signs?

Romans 1:26-27
Corinthians 6:9-10
Timothy 1:9-10

Jesus also goes back to referencing Genesis when asked about divorce and makes it clear that marriage is between man and woman, and since the only non-sinful sexual relations can happen within a marriage, that disqualifies homosexual actions (having homosexual attractions is not in of itself sinful, it's the actions that are).

CDT pls.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:37 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:They are now. But there was a time of panic because I didn’t know if they where ok.

Well that's good. Where they there? That must have been traumatic.

They live just a block north from said Temple.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:37 pm

Nothing new, other European countries stand in solidarity, etc. etc.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:37 pm

Well the thread isn't locked. And it's 3:37 am here, so i'm going to sleep.

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Postby Otira » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:37 pm

Olerand wrote:Nothing new, other European countries stand in solidarity, etc. etc.

What about thoughts and prayers? Have they been sent out?

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:38 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
What!? He jumped the border!?

/s



No, you don't need a priest to understand - you just need to not be a smug, know-it-all who thinks he has all the answers when in reality he doesn't know jack shit.

Probably why you can't understand it.


I was a very devout Catholic when i was a kid. Reading the bible made me an atheist. But yeah you're right. I just can't understand it, since my views are so biased already!

And you're going to party hard in heaven, while the rest of us unbelievers will rot in hell. That's not smug at all!

If you are so sure of your faith, why do you even bother? We're all fated anyway right?


You were "devout" as a kid, but reading the Bible made you an Atheist? Right, sure it did.

And I already told you unbelievers don't go to Hell. Smugness is pride, and pride is a sin. I try my best not to be smug.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:39 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
New haven america wrote:Shhh... Then how will Christians excuse the people holding "God hates Fags" signs?

Romans 1:26-27
Corinthians 6:9-10
Timothy 1:9-10

At least when it comes to condemning sodomy as an action, rather than attractions. For instance, Jesus also goes back to referencing Genesis when asked about divorce and makes it clear that marriage is between man and woman, and since the only non-sinful sexual relations can happen within a marriage, that disqualifies homosexual actions (having homosexual attractions is not in of itself sinful, it's the actions that are).


*Christian marriage.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:41 pm

Otira wrote:
Olerand wrote:Nothing new, other European countries stand in solidarity, etc. etc.

What about thoughts and prayers? Have they been sent out?

A few thoughts, we have the decency to not send prayers.

Salvini is at the Western Wall (cool, I guess), and he tweeted photos of himself there and he vowed he would work to annihilate, etc. etc. terrorism through all "licit" means in Europe.

The Parliament was in plenary session, which was supposed to end at midnight.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:50 pm

Condolences to the families who lost there loved ones beacuse of this attack.

Extremists, be it political or religious are worrying.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:52 pm

Okay. Thanks for reporting the news.

But what am I supposed to discuss?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:53 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Okay. Thanks for reporting the news.

But what am I supposed to discuss?

Give condolences, give a way this can be prevented, etc.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Hatterleigh » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:54 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Right wing humour squad wrote:
Democracy is a problem though.


Indeed it is. Unfortunately the other forms of governance are bigger problems.

Why so?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:54 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Okay. Thanks for reporting the news.

But what am I supposed to discuss?

Give condolences, give a way this can be prevented, etc.


but no one directly impacted would even hear my condolences you know?

as for prevention, that's simply a law and order concern (France has already done a pretty good job with their gun policies, just might want to step up the surveillance)

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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:55 pm

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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Indeed it is. Unfortunately the other forms of governance are bigger problems.

Why so?


Either
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Or
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:59 pm

The terrorist is still at large. Anyway, I appreciate when foreigners, or well, English speakers, correctly say "Vive la France", rather than "Viva la France". Same thing for Révolution, when written in French.

It's small gems like this that make an otherwise unbearable coexistence possible.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:00 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Give condolences, give a way this can be prevented, etc.


but no one directly impacted would even hear my condolences you know?

as for prevention, that's simply a law and order concern (France has already done a pretty good job with their gun policies, just might want to step up the surveillance)


I know Olerand touched on your latter point (surveillance), which is already being done in most every Western European country that has Islamic fundamentalists (and just potentially violent zealots in general). I suppose the issue there is how does a government use it's surveillance programs and watchlists to deter these crimes in the future, and frankly, I don't even know the answer to that.

There are also socioeconomic and cultural contexts that could and should be examined when it comes to the topic of terrorism, particularly in the developed world. IE, to what extent does poverty, isolation, neighborhoods that breed antisocial behavior and cultural differences factor into potential acts of terror.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:03 pm

Olerand wrote:The terrorist is still at large. Anyway, I appreciate when foreigners, or well, English speakers, correctly say "Vive la France", rather than "Viva la France". Same thing for Révolution, when written in French.

It's small gems like this that make an otherwise unbearable coexistence possible.


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