Strasbourg terrorist incident

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I'm not a mod but if I may, let me remind everyone that this is a delicate and sad subject and we accomplish nothing by insulting sides. I get the anger, I lost a good family friend in the Barcelona incident last year. I get it. All of it. But I also think cooler heads prevail and some posters have gotten too hot. May I suggest you step away from the thread and cool off?

This is a sad situation as it is, no need to try to even scores. Just saying.

[Kubumba Tribe]

I'm no going to address it, for you know what I mean, for we have had this conversation before.

If I knew what you meant I wouldn't be asking.
So what are you talking about?

[Sukberia]

I don't advocate for their genocide, so clearly I submit to Islam, waiting patiently for them to arrive on my doorstep as if they've adopted a Jehovah's Witnesses policy of making house calls.

I mean, since you haven't murdered an innocent person, you're definitely "submitting".

I don't have a faith. And even if i did, you COULD insult it. I don't mind.

I'll treat people with respect WHEN THEY DESERVE IT.
Respect is deserved, not owned.

And who invested you with the power to decide?

I mean, I'm not saying "fuck you too", because I'm trying to have a reasonable debate.

Decide what exactly?

Are you begging for my respect? AH, and just making me say things that i never said is not gonna earn you my respect.

Why do you care about respect online anyway? It probably will be the final time we talk to one another.

[Olerand]

Ether way like Olerand has been saying god ain’t in Strasbourg tonight. So let’s stop talking about him

A controversial opinion, apparently.

[Sukberia]

I generalise religions based...on their religious books.

Just as i generalise nazism based... on Mein Kampf.

But again... keep ignoring that.

Ignore my entire post and go off on a tangent on one word out of the whole thing, it's working for you so far.

Works for you too.

[Toaslandia]

Are you worshipping Ba'ath or some weird shit?

Also, please, treat us with the respect we treat you.


We haven't insulted your faith.

I don't have a faith. And even if i did, you COULD insult it. I don't mind.

I'll treat people with respect WHEN THEY DESERVE IT.
Respect is deserved, not owned.

Just stop being in a-hole to people. If you don't have something for the topic, say nothing.

[Kannap]

I have nothing against myself not being harmed by Islam - or homophobic nations in general besides Islamic ones - that's why I have no plans on visiting Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.

No reason to generalize an entire religion and hate an entire group of people or call for their genocide. If we're going on "all X are the same," then Mike Pence represents everybody in Indiana and that state must be wiped off the map. That's how foolish you sound spewing your rhetoric.

As for your first sentence, all I'm saying on that topic any longer is this thread isn't for Christian discussion. Meet me in the Christian discussion thread if you want to insult me anymore.

Right, while calls for genocide are not only unwarranted, and in many jurisdictions, illegal; "generalizations", when backed by actual proof, are actually more than germane. The attempt to swipe away uncomfortable truths as "generalizations", I would say, is the bigger issue.

This post is not directly in relation to you, mind.

I'll admit I don't know any numbers or statistics on the matter, but there are terrorist attacks fueled by radical Islamism, but that doesn't change the fact that Sukberia's "argument" that those terrorist attacks and radicals make all Muslims radicals is a flawed argument.

[Thermodolia]

I'm not a mod but if I may, let me remind everyone that this is a delicate and sad subject and we accomplish nothing by insulting sides. I get the anger, I lost a good family friend in the Barcelona incident last year. I get it. All of it. But I also think cooler heads prevail and some posters have gotten too hot. May I suggest you step away from the thread and cool off?

This is a sad situation as it is, no need to try to even scores. Just saying.

I agree. Let’s all calm down a bit. Drink some nog and come back later

[The South Falls]

I mean, since you haven't murdered an innocent person, you're definitely "submitting".

And who invested you with the power to decide?

I mean, I'm not saying "fuck you too", because I'm trying to have a reasonable debate.

Decide what exactly?

Are you begging for my respect? AH, and just making me say things that i never said is not gonna earn you my respect.

Why do you care about respect online anyway? It probably will be the final time we talk to one another.

I'm not begging for your respect. In fact, I ask you give it to all unconditionally. But sure. Respect is dead, we're all gonna die, and good luck with our universe.

[Kannap]

I don't advocate for their genocide, so clearly I submit to Islam, waiting patiently for them to arrive on my doorstep as if they've adopted a Jehovah's Witnesses policy of making house calls.

Nope, you're submissive because you WILLINGFULLY choose to ignore the homophobic nature of Islam. And keep treating it like the book just doesn't call on people to be killed!

You're willfully ignoring that not all X are Y and therefore there are LGBT friendly and pro-gay Muslims, give me an argument that doesn't amount to "All Muslims are the exact same"

[Sukberia]

I don't have a faith. And even if i did, you COULD insult it. I don't mind.

I'll treat people with respect WHEN THEY DESERVE IT.
Respect is deserved, not owned.

Just stop being in a-hole to people. If you don't have something for the topic, say nothing.

I've literally gave this topic a few than enough posts.

People here defend Islam.

I'm against it.

Period.

[Toaslandia]

I'm not a mod but if I may, let me remind everyone that this is a delicate and sad subject and we accomplish nothing by insulting sides. I get the anger, I lost a good family friend in the Barcelona incident last year. I get it. All of it. But I also think cooler heads prevail and some posters have gotten too hot. May I suggest you step away from the thread and cool off?

This is a sad situation as it is, no need to try to even scores. Just saying.

I agree. Let’s all calm down a bit. Drink some nog and come back later

Alright. I'll take this guy's advice and leave for a bit too calm down. Sorry for your loss Thermodolia.

[Kannap]

I don't advocate for their genocide, so clearly I submit to Islam, waiting patiently for them to arrive on my doorstep as if they've adopted a Jehovah's Witnesses policy of making house calls.

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Stop advertising the Islamic thread every other post you comment on.

[Kubumba Tribe]

People here defend Islam.

I was the only 1 doing that.

[Sukberia]

Nope, you're submissive because you WILLINGFULLY choose to ignore the homophobic nature of Islam. And keep treating it like the book just doesn't call on people to be killed!

You're willfully ignoring that not all X are Y and therefore there are LGBT friendly and pro-gay Muslims, give me an argument that doesn't amount to "All Muslims are the exact same"

There are Pro-LGBT muslims.

But the religion itself isn't Pro-LGBT. They just choose to ignore it, just like most christians ignore that you can't mix fabrics.

[Olerand]

I'm not a mod but if I may, let me remind everyone that this is a delicate and sad subject and we accomplish nothing by insulting sides. I get the anger, I lost a good family friend in the Barcelona incident last year. I get it. All of it. But I also think cooler heads prevail and some posters have gotten too hot. May I suggest you step away from the thread and cool off?

This is a sad situation as it is, no need to try to even scores. Just saying.

I don't think it's the emotional volatility that's drawing out these posts.

I think the sentiment remains unchanged from any other day about. It's just an opportunity to hammer the same old nails.

I'm no going to address it, for you know what I mean, for we have had this conversation before.

If I knew what you meant I wouldn't be asking.
So what are you talking about?

As is your wont, you and Amin choose to misunderstand otherwise very, very basic sentences, and deflect on theology while simultaneously denying things you don't agree with while simultaneously committing your own ijtihad. I'm sure we've engaged in this discussion before; as I am equally sure that it is not relevant to this thread.

[Kubumba Tribe]

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Stop advertising the Islamic thread every other post you comment on.

I'm not.

[Kannap]

I don't advocate for their genocide, so clearly I submit to Islam, waiting patiently for them to arrive on my doorstep as if they've adopted a Jehovah's Witnesses policy of making house calls.

I mean, since you haven't murdered an innocent person, you're definitely "submitting".

I'm weak in the knees and easily bent over because I haven't dropped a nuke on Jordan yet.

[Sukberia]

I'm not a mod but if I may, let me remind everyone that this is a delicate and sad subject and we accomplish nothing by insulting sides. I get the anger, I lost a good family friend in the Barcelona incident last year. I get it. All of it. But I also think cooler heads prevail and some posters have gotten too hot. May I suggest you step away from the thread and cool off?

This is a sad situation as it is, no need to try to even scores. Just saying.

I'm very sorry to hear that. I lost my nephew at Paris.

[The South Falls]

Hopefully, this never happens again. I hope those who are in the hospital will recover.

[Olerand]

Right, while calls for genocide are not only unwarranted, and in many jurisdictions, illegal; "generalizations", when backed by actual proof, are actually more than germane. The attempt to swipe away uncomfortable truths as "generalizations", I would say, is the bigger issue.

This post is not directly in relation to you, mind.

I'll admit I don't know any numbers or statistics on the matter, but there are terrorist attacks fueled by radical Islamism, but that doesn't change the fact that Sukberia's "argument" that those terrorist attacks and radicals make all Muslims radicals is a flawed argument.

Almost none of that poster's posts are worthy of responding to. However, denying the rampant illiberal and radical attitudes and beliefs amongst Muslims, in Europe and elsewhere, is pure (and see through) deflection.

[Sukberia]

I mean, since you haven't murdered an innocent person, you're definitely "submitting".

I'm weak in the knees and easily bent over because I haven't dropped a nuke on Jordan yet.

Jordan is Islamo-lite. Saudi Arabia or Pakistan could be a better target.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I believe he's referring to Kubumba.

No, it's me, he's been repeatedly attacking me since I'm gay but don't hate Muslims. Those two things aren't compatible in his mind.

Considering what Islam says about gays, I have to agree it doesn't make sense.

He still doesn't know what he's talking about.

I have nothing against myself not being harmed by Islam - or homophobic nations in general besides Islamic ones - that's why I have no plans on visiting Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.

No reason to generalize an entire religion and hate an entire group of people or call for their genocide. If we're going on "all X are the same," then Mike Pence represents everybody in Indiana and that state must be wiped off the map. That's how foolish you sound spewing your rhetoric.

As for your first sentence, all I'm saying on that topic any longer is this thread isn't for Christian discussion. Meet me in the Christian discussion thread if you want to insult me anymore.

I generalise religions based...on their religious books.

Just as i generalise nazism based... on Mein Kampf.

But again... keep ignoring that.

Your failure to understand religion is linked to you misconception that is an ideology.

Scripture is not like ordinary writing; reading it and understanding it are two different things. If you're taking everything the Bible says at face value, then you're reading it wrong.

But it doesn't surprise me that it's contents are too complex for your comprehend as judging by your behavior you're still an edgy teenager out to offend everyone you can because you think it's humorous or fun.

No, I've been talking about God as described by Judeo-Christian traditions. This is not the same figure, regardless of what the Qur'an says.

God is Allah SWT.

Not to me.

[Olerand]

I agree. Let’s all calm down a bit. Drink some nog and come back later

Alright. I'll take this guy's advice and leave for a bit too calm down. Sorry for your loss Thermodolia.

I don't think he lost anybody.

Hopefully, this never happens again. I hope those who are in the hospital will recover.

Well, I have bad news for you...

[Kubumba Tribe]

As is your wont, you and Amin

The nation's are controlled by the same person.

choose to misunderstand otherwise very, very basic sentences

Wallahi (on God SWT) I don't know what you're talking about.

and deflect on theology

When do I deflect?

while simultaneously denying things you don't agree with while simultaneously committing your own ijtihad. I'm sure we've engaged in this discussion before; as I am equally sure that it is not relevant to this thread.

You didn't answer my question. I still don't know what you're talking about.