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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:03 pm

Kannap wrote:
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Then don't respond, i've given you more than enough time to try and make sense.

Know that i will still prevent homosexuals, like my sister, from being harmed by Islam. One submissive to that ideology doesn't change that.


I have nothing against myself not being harmed by Islam - or homophobic nations in general besides Islamic ones - that's why I have no plans on visiting Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.

No reason to generalize an entire religion and hate an entire group of people or call for their genocide. If we're going on "all X are the same," then Mike Pence represents everybody in Indiana and that state must be wiped off the map. That's how foolish you sound spewing your rhetoric.

As for your first sentence, all I'm saying on that topic any longer is this thread isn't for Christian discussion. Meet me in the Christian discussion thread if you want to insult me anymore.


I generalise religions based...on their religious books.

Just as i generalise nazism based... on Mein Kampf.

But again... keep ignoring that.

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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:03 pm

Kannap wrote:
The South Falls wrote:You are definitely being assaulted.


Thermy couldn't hurt a fly.

Man's a crypto-stalinist.

He could throw a red flag at it.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:03 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Olerand wrote:Right. Moving on.

No, I don't know what you mean by that 1st sentence. Where did younger the idea that I'm a fan of intentional ignorance?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:03 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Then don't respond, i've given you more than enough time to try and make sense.

Know that i will still prevent homosexuals, like my sister, from being harmed by Islam. One submissive to that ideology doesn't change that.

Who said that Kannap was ever Islamic, or "submitted"?


I don't advocate for their genocide, so clearly I submit to Islam, waiting patiently for them to arrive on my doorstep as if they've adopted a Jehovah's Witnesses policy of making house calls.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:04 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Sukberia wrote:My militant atheism doesn't call for your deaths.

Your faiths call for my death. Your vile filthy faiths.

Are you worshipping Ba'ath or some weird shit?

Also, please, treat us with the respect we treat you.


We haven't insulted your faith.


I don't have a faith. And even if i did, you COULD insult it. I don't mind.

I'll treat people with respect WHEN THEY DESERVE IT.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:04 pm

Kannap wrote:
The South Falls wrote:You are definitely being assaulted.


Thermy couldn't hurt a fly.

*hides the Flyswatter*

Hum...?

Oh yes.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:04 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Cowardice isn't an acceptable response to terrorism.

It is in Europe.

They save their heavy responses for yellow vest protestors and people who share racist jokes on Facebook.


And who is to say the perpetrator here was not a yellow vest protestor who shared racist jokes on Facebook?

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:04 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Then don't respond, i've given you more than enough time to try and make sense.

Know that i will still prevent homosexuals, like my sister, from being harmed by Islam. One submissive to that ideology doesn't change that.


I have nothing against myself not being harmed by Islam - or homophobic nations in general besides Islamic ones - that's why I have no plans on visiting Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.

No reason to generalize an entire religion and hate an entire group of people or call for their genocide. If we're going on "all X are the same," then Mike Pence represents everybody in Indiana and that state must be wiped off the map. That's how foolish you sound spewing your rhetoric.

As for your first sentence, all I'm saying on that topic any longer is this thread isn't for Christian discussion. Meet me in the Christian discussion thread if you want to insult me anymore.

Right, while calls for genocide are not only unwarranted, and in many jurisdictions, illegal; "generalizations", when backed by actual proof, are actually more than germane. The attempt to swipe away uncomfortable truths as "generalizations", I would say, is the bigger issue.

This post is not directly in relation to you, mind.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:04 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Who said that Kannap was ever Islamic, or "submitted"?


I believe he's referring to Kubumba.


No, it's me, he's been repeatedly attacking me since I'm gay but don't hate Muslims. Those two things aren't compatible in his mind.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Thermy couldn't hurt a fly.

Man's a crypto-stalinist.

He could throw a red flag at it.

Red card!!!
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Kannap wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Who said that Kannap was ever Islamic, or "submitted"?


I don't advocate for their genocide, so clearly I submit to Islam, waiting patiently for them to arrive on my doorstep as if they've adopted a Jehovah's Witnesses policy of making house calls.

Nope, you're submissive because you WILLINGFULLY choose to ignore the homophobic nature of Islam. And keep treating it like the book just doesn't call on people to be killed!

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Postby Freezic Vast » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:It is in Europe.

They save their heavy responses for yellow vest protestors and people who share racist jokes on Facebook.


And who is to say the perpetrator here was not a yellow vest protestor who shared racist jokes on Facebook?

Do you have evidence it is a yellow vest protester?
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
I only mentioned Islam once, and never did I mention Allah.

Yes you did. You, Toaslandia and Shukbrenia have been talking about what Allah SWT is/does for the past few pages. Also, I didn't say anything about y'all talking about Al-Islam.


No, I've been talking about God as described by Judeo-Christian traditions. This is not the same figure, regardless of what the Qur'an says.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Kannap wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Who said that Kannap was ever Islamic, or "submitted"?


I don't advocate for their genocide, so clearly I submit to Islam, waiting patiently for them to arrive on my doorstep as if they've adopted a Jehovah's Witnesses policy of making house calls.

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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Sukberia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Who said that Kannap was ever Islamic, or "submitted"?


Tolerance now.

Submission in 30 years.


While you're fearmongering, why settle on the number 30? Why not 15, 20, 45?
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:06 pm

Kannap wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Who said that Kannap was ever Islamic, or "submitted"?


I don't advocate for their genocide, so clearly I submit to Islam, waiting patiently for them to arrive on my doorstep as if they've adopted a Jehovah's Witnesses policy of making house calls.

I mean, since you haven't murdered an innocent person, you're definitely "submitting".
Sukberia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Are you worshipping Ba'ath or some weird shit?

Also, please, treat us with the respect we treat you.


We haven't insulted your faith.


I don't have a faith. And even if i did, you COULD insult it. I don't mind.

I'll treat people with respect WHEN THEY DESERVE IT.
Respect is deserved, not owned.

And who invested you with the power to decide?

I mean, I'm not saying "fuck you too", because I'm trying to have a reasonable debate.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:06 pm

Kannap wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
I believe he's referring to Kubumba.


No, it's me, he's been repeatedly attacking me since I'm gay but don't hate Muslims. Those two things aren't compatible in his mind.

Nope they aren't. And i didn't attack you, and if i did, then i'm sorry.

I trully am, and i'm being serious for a moment here.


After more than 100 posts i can aknowledge to push it too much.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:06 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yes you did. You, Toaslandia and Shukbrenia have been talking about what Allah SWT is/does for the past few pages. Also, I didn't say anything about y'all talking about Al-Islam.


No, I've been talking about God as described by Judeo-Christian traditions. This is not the same figure, regardless of what the Qur'an says.

God is Allah SWT.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:06 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Olerand wrote:I wouldn't take that as fact yet, though the French media doesn't traffic in bullshit as much as American media has shown it can in similar situations (our media actually faces repercussions); his identity has not been officially validated.

But yes, as we all (or all of us not in bad faith; or not giving a genuinely nice, but misguided, benefit of the doubt) suspected, he is an Islamist.


I saw his security rating being S, which is the highest you guys have, IIRC.

Olerand wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Can you explain fiché S?

Someone assigned the "S" card on the Interior Ministry's list of researched persons. S stands for Sûreté de l'État, or Security of the State. As in, they are a threat to the security of the State. Not necessarily Islamists, they could be anarchists, neo-Nazis, etc. There are about 11,000 people with this appellation, give or take.

There's 16 different levels, based on their interaction with law enforcement.

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Olerand wrote:I'm trying to understand why in your phrasing, he "had" to do this to "get his point across"? Why is he in the passive agent's seat in this story?

Why did he "have" to do this? What point? What should he have done?

He was most likely acting on some ISIS guy's orders. His point was ISIS' agenda, and he shouldn't have listened to them.

I see you're more comfortable jumping to this conclusion than others.

Anyway, he most likely wasn't. ISIS' actual influence in organizing and executing plans has dwindled greatly. They are mostly claiming attacks post-fact and opportunistically now.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:07 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I have nothing against myself not being harmed by Islam - or homophobic nations in general besides Islamic ones - that's why I have no plans on visiting Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.

No reason to generalize an entire religion and hate an entire group of people or call for their genocide. If we're going on "all X are the same," then Mike Pence represents everybody in Indiana and that state must be wiped off the map. That's how foolish you sound spewing your rhetoric.

As for your first sentence, all I'm saying on that topic any longer is this thread isn't for Christian discussion. Meet me in the Christian discussion thread if you want to insult me anymore.


I generalise religions based...on their religious books.

Just as i generalise nazism based... on Mein Kampf.

But again... keep ignoring that.


Ignore my entire post and go off on a tangent on one word out of the whole thing, it's working for you so far.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:07 pm

Ether way like Olerand has been saying god ain’t in Strasbourg tonight. So let’s stop talking about him
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:07 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:No, I don't know what you mean by that 1st sentence. Where did younger the idea that I'm a fan of intentional ignorance?

I'm no going to address it, for you know what I mean, for we have had this conversation before.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:07 pm

Olerand will you answer my question please?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:07 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:It is in Europe.

They save their heavy responses for yellow vest protestors and people who share racist jokes on Facebook.


And who is to say the perpetrator here was not a yellow vest protestor who shared racist jokes on Facebook?

Everything.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:07 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Ether way like orland has been saying god ain’t in Strasbourg tonight. So let’s stop talking about him

Strasbourg definitely needs a player.
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