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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Proved you don't know anything about religion.

STILL WAITING FOR THAT REBUTTAL.

CMON BOIS GET YOUR BIBLES OUT.


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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Anyone who's talking about Allah SWT go here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=445882

Once is not custom, but I have to agree. Neither Jesus, nor Allah, nor God, nor Yahweh are in Strasbourg. So.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=441628&p=35035500#p35035500
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Balnik
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Founded: Mar 10, 2015
Father Knows Best State

Postby Balnik » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Balnik wrote:Jihadi's tend to be quite auth, yes. However a lot of them follow Marxist or leftist thought economically, Hezbollah being an example due to the state ownership of multiple sectors as well as local communal interference as well. Libya under Gaddafi serves as an example and Iran practices is own unique blend. (Mainly due to sanctions)

Jihad isn't political.

That's debatable. Give me your reasons why not.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:That's always been the case with Christianity. Though showing that the person is truly repenting takes time and work to show as opposed to mere words.

-God makes man imperfect.
-God is God, so he knows that humans will sin.
-He makes humans suffer, because they sin.
-But he knew this.
-God is good, so he allows Satan to make Hell.
-Blames it all on Satan.
-???
-Profit.

>believe that hell exists
Such silly. Much strange
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Napkiraly
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
You thinking Satan created Hell is a show of your ignorance. Lucifer and his angels rebelled against God and tried to conquer Heaven, God created Hell as their prison.


Ah sorry. Different optics of christianity. So... he created a prison... GOD CREATED HELL TO TORTURE PEOPLE. WOW, WHAT A MERCIFUL AND KIND SAVIOR.

If he's God, can't he just change their personnality?
Because God isn't our servant, doing everything for us. We have free will.

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Sukberia
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:44 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Sukberia wrote:-God makes man imperfect.
-God is God, so he knows that humans will sin.
-He makes humans suffer, because they sin.
-But he knew this.
-God is good, so he allows Satan to make Hell.
-Blames it all on Satan.
-???
-Profit.
No, man became imperfect with the fall.
God knows we can sin but urges us to not sin.
God is also willing to grant us mercy if we show genuine repentance for our transgressions.
People suffer when they break the rules is nothing particularly shocking.
God created Hell. Hell is a prison with Satan being it's longest and greatest prisoner.
No, not all evil is due to Satan. I'd actually say most evil is our own doing.


God knew all of that.
He still allowed Satan to exist. Knowing he would fuck things up.
He could've made humans without the will to sin, hence the world would be perfect.

Then again, if we couldn't sin we wouldn't need priests, and they need to make a living so "oh well, urr durr free will urr durr."

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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:45 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Anyone who's talking about Allah SWT go here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=445882


No one is talking about Allah.

Toaslandia, Kannap and Shukberia are.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Olerand
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:45 pm

3 confirmed deaths, 12 injured, including 6 very seriously. The government is in a crisis cell.
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Sukberia
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:45 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Ah sorry. Different optics of christianity. So... he created a prison... GOD CREATED HELL TO TORTURE PEOPLE. WOW, WHAT A MERCIFUL AND KIND SAVIOR.

If he's God, can't he just change their personnality?
Because God isn't our servant, doing everything for us. We have free will.



Yeah i'm gonna allow my child out on the streets cuz he has free will. What a great parent i am.

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The South Falls
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:45 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sukberia wrote:STILL WAITING FOR THAT REBUTTAL.

CMON BOIS GET YOUR BIBLES OUT.


This look isn't cute on you.

He's funding my salt mine.
Sukberia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:No, man became imperfect with the fall.
God knows we can sin but urges us to not sin.
God is also willing to grant us mercy if we show genuine repentance for our transgressions.
People suffer when they break the rules is nothing particularly shocking.
God created Hell. Hell is a prison with Satan being it's longest and greatest prisoner.
No, not all evil is due to Satan. I'd actually say most evil is our own doing.


God knew all of that.
He still allowed Satan to exist. Knowing he would fuck things up.
He could've made humans without the will to sin, hence the world would be perfect.

Then again, if we couldn't sin we wouldn't need priests, and they need to make a living so "oh well, urr durr free will urr durr."

And this is on topic, how?
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The South Falls
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:46 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Because God isn't our servant, doing everything for us. We have free will.



Yeah i'm gonna allow my child out on the streets cuz he has free will. What a great parent i am.

I mean, of course, you're going to protect your child to an extent.
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Olerand
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:46 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Olerand wrote:Once is not custom, but I have to agree. Neither Jesus, nor Allah, nor God, nor Yahweh are in Strasbourg. So.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=441628&p=35035500#p35035500

OMG :lol2:

Ok, anyway.
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Sukberia
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:46 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sukberia wrote:STILL WAITING FOR THAT REBUTTAL.

CMON BOIS GET YOUR BIBLES OUT.


This look isn't cute on you.

So... no rebutall.

Ok then, time to disregard that then.

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Otira
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Founded: Jun 25, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Otira » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:46 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
No one is talking about Allah.

Toaslandia, Kannap and Shukberia are.

Why don't you go to moderation then and stop spamming your dissatisfaction with their choice of conversation?

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Toaslandia
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:46 pm

Otira wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Toaslandia, Kannap and Shukberia are.

Why don't you go to moderation then and stop spamming your dissatisfaction with their choice of conversation?

We've already got a report up.
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Sukberia
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Sukberia wrote:

Yeah i'm gonna allow my child out on the streets cuz he has free will. What a great parent i am.

I mean, of course, you're going to protect your child to an extent.

He totally protects us, hein? Only when we beg him by praying, by repeating what he already knows... sometimes.

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Kannap
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
To be fair, the known world at that time, for the Romans and the Israelites alike, was the lands around the Mediterranean. If you're thinking him being born in Israel today is equivalent to 2,000 years ago, you're not in the right mindset.


See, if I was God, i would make Jesus appear in everyone's mind. That way it would be impossible for the Aztecs not to know Jesus.

Then again, if i was God i wouldn't create Lucifer, since i wouldn't want a scapegoat :D


The fact that you think you can be God or equate yourself to God shows your ignorance, if you think you can pull God down to mortal human level, you're misinformed.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Olerand wrote:3 confirmed deaths, 12 injured, including 6 very seriously. The government is in a crisis cell.

Damn
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Sukberia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I mean, of course, you're going to protect your child to an extent.

He totally protects us, hein? Only when we beg him by praying, by repeating what he already knows... sometimes.


Your disrespect for the religious identity of numerous persons on this thread is beyond galling at this point
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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

The South Falls wrote:I hate when people chalk everything bad up to illegal immigrants.


People who look different than me are scary, though.
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The South Falls
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Sukberia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I mean, of course, you're going to protect your child to an extent.

He totally protects us, hein? Only when we beg him by praying, by repeating what he already knows... sometimes.

I mean, gotta show devotion to your parent.
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Toaslandia
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Sukberia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I mean, of course, you're going to protect your child to an extent.

He totally protects us, hein? Only when we beg him by praying, by repeating what he already knows... sometimes.

Stop dragging people off topic before the mods come in.
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Sukberia
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Otira wrote:Why don't you go to moderation then and stop spamming your dissatisfaction with their choice of conversation?

We've already got a report up.

Several even! Accusing ME of stuff i didn't say, or outright disregarding what i actually say.

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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Balnik wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Jihad isn't political.

That's debatable. Give me your reasons why not.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=441628&p=35035534#p35035534
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Olerand
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Olerand wrote:3 confirmed deaths, 12 injured, including 6 very seriously. The government is in a crisis cell.

Damn

It's terrible to say but it sounds more serious than it is. I mean, France is no stranger to Islamic terrorism.
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