STILL WAITING FOR THAT REBUTTAL.
CMON BOIS GET YOUR BIBLES OUT.
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by Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:40 pm
Kubumba Tribe wrote:How many times do I have to say that this isn't a religious debate thread???
by Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:40 pm
Sukberia wrote:Kannap wrote:
You thinking Satan created Hell is a show of your ignorance. Lucifer and his angels rebelled against God and tried to conquer Heaven, God created Hell as their prison.
Ah sorry. Different optics of christianity. So... he created a prison... GOD CREATED HELL TO TORTURE PEOPLE. WOW, WHAT A MERCIFUL AND KIND SAVIOR.
If he's God, can't he just change their personnality?
by Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:40 pm
Sukberia wrote:Kannap wrote:
You thinking Satan created Hell is a show of your ignorance. Lucifer and his angels rebelled against God and tried to conquer Heaven, God created Hell as their prison.
Ah sorry. Different optics of christianity. So... he created a prison... GOD CREATED HELL TO TORTURE PEOPLE. WOW, WHAT A MERCIFUL AND KIND SAVIOR.
If he's God, can't he just change their personnality?
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:41 pm
Sukberia wrote:Kannap wrote:
You thinking Satan created Hell is a show of your ignorance. Lucifer and his angels rebelled against God and tried to conquer Heaven, God created Hell as their prison.
Ah sorry. Different optics of christianity. So... he created a prison... GOD CREATED HELL TO TORTURE PEOPLE. WOW, WHAT A MERCIFUL AND KIND SAVIOR.
If he's God, can't he just change their personnality?
by Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:41 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Olerand wrote:Well... What can we do?
At risk of sounding like a hypocrite (I tout civil liberties as a sacrosanct thing), I personally would have zero qualms with French, German, Belgian etc etc, whatever intelligence agency it is for any given country, interviewing and keeping tabs on these guys to assess the risk that they carry out a terrorist attack.
Obviously, it wouldn't prevent every attack, it probably wouldn't even prevent a quarter of them. But to have even the slightest levels of mitigating tactics on that particular front could potentially save lives in the future.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:41 pm
Toaslandia wrote:Sukberia wrote:
Ah sorry. Different optics of christianity. So... he created a prison... GOD CREATED HELL TO TORTURE PEOPLE. WOW, WHAT A MERCIFUL AND KIND SAVIOR.
If he's God, can't he just change their personnality?
He gave them free will, and they rebelled against Him thinking they were greater than Him. Now let's get back on topic.
by Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:41 pm
Sukberia wrote:Toaslandia wrote:He made us imperfect, but he sacrificed his only son to save us from sin. We are given the choice to live by his word or not to.
Why not just kill Satan? Or gather us all on a room and show us his love?
"Nah, just gonna send my son on this remote and barren are of the middle east and that will show them my love."
Yeah bullshit.
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:41 pm
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.
by Napkiraly » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:42 pm
No, man became imperfect with the fall.Sukberia wrote:Napkiraly wrote:That's always been the case with Christianity. Though showing that the person is truly repenting takes time and work to show as opposed to mere words.
-God makes man imperfect.
-God is God, so he knows that humans will sin.
-He makes humans suffer, because they sin.
-But he knew this.
-God is good, so he allows Satan to make Hell.
-Blames it all on Satan.
-???
-Profit.
by Balnik » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:42 pm
by Major-Tom » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:42 pm
Olerand wrote:Major-Tom wrote:
At risk of sounding like a hypocrite (I tout civil liberties as a sacrosanct thing), I personally would have zero qualms with French, German, Belgian etc etc, whatever intelligence agency it is for any given country, interviewing and keeping tabs on these guys to assess the risk that they carry out a terrorist attack.
Obviously, it wouldn't prevent every attack, it probably wouldn't even prevent a quarter of them. But to have even the slightest levels of mitigating tactics on that particular front could potentially save lives in the future.
Oh neither would I. And honestly neither would our politicians, we're malleable people. But logistically, there's 11,000 of them. That's... quite the resources.
by Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:42 pm
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Anyone who's talking about Allah SWT go here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=445882
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:42 pm
Kannap wrote:Sukberia wrote:Why not just kill Satan? Or gather us all on a room and show us his love?
"Nah, just gonna send my son on this remote and barren are of the middle east and that will show them my love."
Yeah bullshit.
To be fair, the known world at that time, for the Romans and the Israelites alike, was the lands around the Mediterranean. If you're thinking him being born in Israel today is equivalent to 2,000 years ago, you're not in the right mindset.
by Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:42 pm
Balnik wrote:Jihadi's tend to be quite auth, yes. However a lot of them follow Marxist or leftist thought economically, Hezbollah being an example due to the state ownership of multiple sectors as well as local communal interference as well. Libya under Gaddafi serves as an example and Iran practices is own unique blend. (Mainly due to sanctions)
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm
by The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm
by Otira » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Balnik wrote:Jihadi's tend to be quite auth, yes. However a lot of them follow Marxist or leftist thought economically, Hezbollah being an example due to the state ownership of multiple sectors as well as local communal interference as well. Libya under Gaddafi serves as an example and Iran practices is own unique blend. (Mainly due to sanctions)
Jihad isn't political.
by Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm
Sukberia wrote:Kannap wrote:
To be fair, the known world at that time, for the Romans and the Israelites alike, was the lands around the Mediterranean. If you're thinking him being born in Israel today is equivalent to 2,000 years ago, you're not in the right mindset.
See, if I was God, i would make Jesus appear in everyone's mind. That way it would be impossible for the Aztecs not to know Jesus.
Then again, if i was God i wouldn't create Lucifer, since i wouldn't want a scapegoat
by Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm
Balnik wrote:Jihadi's tend to be quite auth, yes. However a lot of them follow Marxist or leftist thought economically, Hezbollah being an example due to the state ownership of multiple sectors as well as local communal interference as well. Libya under Gaddafi serves as an example and Iran practices is own unique blend. (Mainly due to sanctions)
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm
Sukberia wrote:Kannap wrote:
You thinking Satan created Hell is a show of your ignorance. Lucifer and his angels rebelled against God and tried to conquer Heaven, God created Hell as their prison.
Ah sorry. Different optics of christianity. So... he created a prison... GOD CREATED HELL TO TORTURE PEOPLE. WOW, WHAT A MERCIFUL AND KIND SAVIOR.
If he's God, can't he just change their personnality?
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Thermodolia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:43 pm
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Anyone who's talking about Allah SWT go here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=445882
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