Strasbourg terrorist incident

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

You are. God wants people to live and respect each other.

Nope, God sends unbelievers, gays, adulterers, and a whole bunch of people, to Hell.

Wrong.

God sends the villainous and unrepentant to Hell. Unbelievers, gays, and adulterers are not villainous and the first two have nothing to repent for. It is unsurprising that your ignorance of religion is tied with your intolerance of it, as this is usually the trend.

[Kannap]

I just found out and I'm sorry for those who died and those who were wounded. Has it been confirmed if the perpetrator is an Islamist or not? All I heard was that he was native to Strasbourg.

Haven't heard any confirmation, I don't think.

[Sukberia]

Can your beliefs change so that they don't make laws that allow people to be killed?

Religion burned our best minds at the stake when it ruled. Now you got your feelings hurt? Ahaha!

Religion is a right that anyone can use. I prefer my religion to whatever you believe in.

Keep your "right" off politics.

Anyone can belief in Santa Claus, doensn't mean i have to "RESPECT IT HURR DURR".

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I just found out and I'm sorry for those who died and those who were wounded. Has it been confirmed if the perpetrator is an Islamist or not? All I heard was that he was native to Strasbourg.

Haven't heard any confirmation, I don't think.

Seems like there's nothing official on that atm.

[Fartsniffage]

Radicalised = Islamic in Europe at the moment.

I think Olerand explained earlier that "S" security label was given to any extremists that the Interior Ministry is concerned about and wish to keep greater tabs on, including but not limited to Islamic extremists.

Okay....but I wasn't talking about that. Read what I wrote again.

[Olerand]

Officially, no. Nothing will come out until he is apprehended, or more likely, dead. But let's not play this game until its usual conclusion, yes, he is. Le Figaro is reporting that his name is Chérif S, which is yet unverified.

It's not a game. I would rather not jump into conclusions until the facts come up. If he is am Islamic extremist, punish him to the fullest extent of the law. If he is not, punish him to the fullest extent of the law.

When it pops up every time, and I mean every time, it is a game. When the bodies are not yet cold and the whatabouttery and pogrom fetishism comes out in force, it's a game, let's not pretend otherwise.

And he will be probably be killed. French police, never lenient on protesters, are even less so on terrorists.

[Otira]

Please don't be right wing, please don't be right wing, please don't be right wing.

Don't Jihadists count as right-wing?

[Balnik]

Philippines Libya, Nigeria, Somalia. Etc

The Ottoman invasion of the Balkans?
The Mhuggal invasion of India?
The Caliphate's invasion of Hispania and France?

Sicily?

Yes. However I was stating modern examples in today's time of Islamic expansion.

[Toaslandia]

Religion is a right that anyone can use. I prefer my religion to whatever you believe in.

Keep your "right" off politics.

Anyone can belief in Santa Claus, doensn't mean i have to "RESPECT IT HURR DURR".

You do have to respect others beliefs, or are you the most intolerant person in the world,

[Sukberia]

Nope, God sends unbelievers, gays, adulterers, and a whole bunch of people, to Hell.

Wrong.

God sends the villainous and unrepentant to Hell. Unbelievers, gays, and adulterers are not villainous and the first two have nothing to repent for. It is unsurprising that your ignorance of religion is tied with your intolerance of it, as this is usually the trend.

And here i was thinking that God was a bad guy!

He allows us to repent! To repent of being inperfect, like he made us! AHAAHAHAH

[Major-Tom]

Just a sad situation where I can't possibly understand the trauma of living through such a horrific event, really. It seems the suspect was known to French authorities, which really leads me to the question, what can intelligence services do about people on "watchlists" without violating civil liberties immensely? If I recall, there have been multiple attacks in Europe where the perpetrator was already on a list of sorts.

[Olerand]

Please don't be right wing, please don't be right wing, please don't be right wing.

Don't Jihadists count as right-wing?

Far-right. Along with Islamists.

[Sukberia]

Keep your "right" off politics.

Anyone can belief in Santa Claus, doensn't mean i have to "RESPECT IT HURR DURR".

You do have to respect others beliefs, or are you the most intolerant person in the world,

And that's forbidden by law?

[Olerand]

Just a sad situation where I can't possibly understand the trauma of living through such a horrific event, really. It seems the suspect was known to French authorities, which really leads me to the question, what can intelligence services do about people on "watchlists" without violating civil liberties immensely? If I recall, there have been multiple attacks in Europe where the perpetrator was already on a list of sorts.

Nothing.

[Toaslandia]

You do have to respect others beliefs, or are you the most intolerant person in the world,

And that's forbidden by law?

Not forbidden, but it's common courtesy.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Guys this isn't a religious debate thread.

[Right wing humour squad]

Please don't be right wing, please don't be right wing, please don't be right wing.

Don't Jihadists count as right-wing?

If they did I would have some in my squad now wouldn’t I?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It's not a game. I would rather not jump into conclusions until the facts come up. If he is am Islamic extremist, punish him to the fullest extent of the law. If he is not, punish him to the fullest extent of the law.

When it pops up every time, and I mean every time, it is a game. When the bodies are not yet cold and the whatabouttery and pogrom fetishism comes out in force, it's a game, let's not pretend otherwise.

And he will be probably be killed. French police, never lenient on protesters, are even less so on terrorists.

Again, it's not a game. It's a matter of waiting for confirmation before making assumptions.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Wrong.

God sends the villainous and unrepentant to Hell. Unbelievers, gays, and adulterers are not villainous and the first two have nothing to repent for. It is unsurprising that your ignorance of religion is tied with your intolerance of it, as this is usually the trend.

And here i was thinking that God was a bad guy!

He allows us to repent! To repent of being inperfect, like he made us! AHAAHAHAH

It was already established that you were ignorant of religion, you didn't need to add further evidence by spouting nonsense.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Please don't be right wing, please don't be right wing, please don't be right wing.

Don't Jihadists count as right-wing?

No. Jihad isn't a political thing.

[Sukberia]

The Ottoman invasion of the Balkans?
The Mhuggal invasion of India?
The Caliphate's invasion of Hispania and France?

Sicily?

Yes. However I was stating modern examples in today's time of Islamic expansion.

Fair enough

[Purgatio]

I think Olerand explained earlier that "S" security label was given to any extremists that the Interior Ministry is concerned about and wish to keep greater tabs on, including but not limited to Islamic extremists.

Okay....but I wasn't talking about that. Read what I wrote again.

I know, but I presumed The Telegraph's information that the man is 'radicalised' stems from the fact that he is on the 'S' security watchlist, especially since it's followed immediately by that information (otherwise I'm not sure what information specifically the Telegraph is using to base the fact that the man is 'radicalised', his security label is clearly being used as the foundation backing up the claim that he is radicalised)

[Olerand]

Don't Jihadists count as right-wing?

Far-right. Along with Islamists.

Which actually makes the alliance between them and the Anglo-Saxon "left" (and the French far-left) all the more puzzling. But I guess the enemy of my enemy or something.

[Napkiraly]

Wrong.

God sends the villainous and unrepentant to Hell. Unbelievers, gays, and adulterers are not villainous and the first two have nothing to repent for. It is unsurprising that your ignorance of religion is tied with your intolerance of it, as this is usually the trend.

And here i was thinking that God was a bad guy!

He allows us to repent! To repent of being inperfect, like he made us! AHAAHAHAH

That's always been the case with Christianity. Though showing that the person is truly repenting takes time and work to show as opposed to mere words.

[Balnik]

Guys this isn't a religious debate thread.

I mean no new news i's coming in. Gotta pass the time somehow.