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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:Nor do i want to. Keep your backwards beliefs to yourself if you want to. Keep them out of politics tho.

My beliefs are not backwards, though yours might be.

Your beliefs were made less than 2.000 years ago ( if you count christ) or several thousands (if you count the Jews) by people who thought the Earth was flat, and that we could drift off the shores of the planet.

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I just found out and I'm sorry for those who died and those who were wounded. Has it been confirmed if the perpetrator is an Islamist or not? All I heard was that he was native to Strasbourg.

Nothing yet I'm afraid.

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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:23 pm

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Who is scapegoating?

You.


Yeah the rest of that post proves you wrong.

But you know, ignore it if it makes you feel better mate.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:I gtg y'all. Assalamu 'Alaikum wa RaHmatullahi wa Barakatuhu. May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah SWT be upon you.

Don't blow yourself up on the exit!

Ahaha, joking. You were actually more friendly than i thought.

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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:My beliefs are not backwards, though yours might be.

Your beliefs were made less than 2.000 years ago ( if you count christ) or several thousands (if you count the Jews) by people who thought the Earth was flat, and that we could drift off the shores of the planet.

Well my beliefs have adapted, though seeing as you can not accept that you might be wrong shows that your's have not.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:24 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I just found out and I'm sorry for those who died and those who were wounded. Has it been confirmed if the perpetrator is an Islamist or not? All I heard was that he was native to Strasbourg.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... as-market/

Seems very likely Islamic.


Yeah, but the article only points out that past Christmas markets across Europe have either been attacked by Islamists or were targets for Islamist terrorist groups. Nothing yet specifically confirming that this specific guy was an Islamist terrorist (even if it may be probable or likely for that reason).
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Postby The Black Party » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:24 pm

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:24 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I just found out and I'm sorry for those who died and those who were wounded. Has it been confirmed if the perpetrator is an Islamist or not? All I heard was that he was native to Strasbourg.

Nothing yet I'm afraid.


Regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof, I hope they apprehend him soon so we can get to the bottom of this.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:24 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:You don't have to be a jerk about it. You'll never sway me from Christianity.

Nor do i want to. Keep your backwards beliefs to yourself if you want to. Keep them out of politics tho.

Can you at least quit insulting everyone's beliefs?
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:24 pm

Olerand wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Fundamental Islam is compatible with European traditions and values. If this terrorist attack was committed by a Islamic Extremist, then it's an outlier.

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Aureumterra wrote:can’t wait till BBC blames this on white christian men again

I wouldn't expect much discussion on the BBC.

The South Falls wrote:No. However, I have read about their efforts to create a Catholic state in Ireland.

The IRA did not seek to establish a Catholic State in Ireland, but an Irish State across the island.

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Westboro showed up in my town when the PC(USA) ratified marriage as “unique commitment between two people, traditionally a man and a woman," changing it from restricted to only men and women couples. They showed up because the town has our east coast conference center, they stood outside the gate and burned some American flags, really showed us.

I was actually thinking of the Baptists. I don't consider Westboro a church, but a cult. I'm ambivalent about it though because one of its members has an amazing voice.


Funny thing is the original Baptist denomination, American Baptist Churches USA, is quite liberal. The Southern Baptist Convention, the ultra conservatives you probably know as the Baptists, left them in 1845 when the American Baptists told southern Baptists they can't remain in the ministry and own slaves. Cooperative Baptist Fellowship popped up in 1991, breaking away from the Southern Baptist Convention, swinging just slightly left of center - they stick to being moderate between the other two.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:25 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:Nope, God sends unbelievers, gays, adulterers, and a whole bunch of people, to Hell.

God sends sinners to Hell. Those who are are good get to be in Heaven.

God sends people who don't believe in him to Hell.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:25 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I just found out and I'm sorry for those who died and those who were wounded. Has it been confirmed if the perpetrator is an Islamist or not? All I heard was that he was native to Strasbourg.

Officially, no. Nothing will come out until he is apprehended, or more likely, dead. But let's not play this game until its usual conclusion, yes, he is. Le Figaro is reporting that his name is Chérif S, which is yet unverified.

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Postby Balnik » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:26 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Balnik wrote:Let me rephrase that then. Ireland, the country they already operate within and are native to. Internal affairs are entirely up to their discretion.

That's true. But muslims have not attempted to take over nations outside the middle east, if memory serves me.

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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:26 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Sukberia wrote:Nor do i want to. Keep your backwards beliefs to yourself if you want to. Keep them out of politics tho.

Can you at least quit insulting everyone's beliefs?

Can your beliefs change so that they don't make laws that allow people to be killed?

Religion burned our best minds at the stake when it ruled. Now you got your feelings hurt? Ahaha!

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:26 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... as-market/

Seems very likely Islamic.


Yeah, but the article only points out that past Christmas markets across Europe have either been attacked by Islamists or were targets for Islamist terrorist groups. Nothing yet specifically confirming that this specific guy was an Islamist terrorist (even if it may be probable or likely for that reason).


French authorities are treating the shooting as a terrorist act after identifying the gunman, named Cherif C, a radicalised 29-year old from the city on a “S” security and terror watch list, thanks to CCTV. Anti-terrorist prosecutors have opened an investigation.


Radicalised = Islamic in Europe at the moment.

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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:26 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:God sends sinners to Hell. Those who are are good get to be in Heaven.

God sends people who don't believe in him to Hell.
God created an imperfect man, knowing he would be imperfect, and punished him for being imperfect, even though God made him.

He could kill the Devil without thinking about it and yet he doesn't. Your God is evil, if he exists.

God lets those who are good yet don't believe in him go to Heaven. He made man, but man betrayed him and he sent them to Earth. The Devil is a fallen angel, and was banished to Hell as God can not kill an Angel because they are immortal.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:26 pm

Balnik wrote:
The South Falls wrote:That's true. But muslims have not attempted to take over nations outside the middle east, if memory serves me.

Philippines Libya, Nigeria, Somalia. Etc

True, true. Then my assertion about Christianity was wrong. That doesn't mean all Muslims are bad, however.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:My beliefs are not backwards, though yours might be.

Your beliefs were made less than 2.000 years ago ( if you count christ) or several thousands (if you count the Jews) by people who thought the Earth was flat, and that we could drift off the shores of the planet.

By the time of Christianity, in the Mediterranean basin, it was long accepted by many learned men that the Earth was a sphere. Most early Church figures also accepted that the Earth was spherical.

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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Yeah, but the article only points out that past Christmas markets across Europe have either been attacked by Islamists or were targets for Islamist terrorist groups. Nothing yet specifically confirming that this specific guy was an Islamist terrorist (even if it may be probable or likely for that reason).


French authorities are treating the shooting as a terrorist act after identifying the gunman, named Cherif C, a radicalised 29-year old from the city on a “S” security and terror watch list, thanks to CCTV. Anti-terrorist prosecutors have opened an investigation.


Radicalised = Islamic in Europe at the moment.


I think Olerand explained earlier that "S" security label was given to any extremists that the Interior Ministry is concerned about and wish to keep greater tabs on, including but not limited to Islamic extremists.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Kannap wrote:
Olerand wrote:
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I wouldn't expect much discussion on the BBC.


The IRA did not seek to establish a Catholic State in Ireland, but an Irish State across the island.


I was actually thinking of the Baptists. I don't consider Westboro a church, but a cult. I'm ambivalent about it though because one of its members has an amazing voice.


Funny thing is the original Baptist denomination, American Baptist Churches USA, is quite liberal. The Southern Baptist Convention, the ultra conservatives you probably know as the Baptists, left them in 1845 when the American Baptists told southern Baptists they can't remain in the ministry and own slaves. Cooperative Baptist Fellowship popped up in 1991, breaking away from the Southern Baptist Convention, swinging just slightly left of center - they stick to being moderate between the other two.

Oh that's interesting. How large would you say the ABC USA is in comparison to the Southern Baptists? They must be quite smaller if I only know the SBC as the "Baptists".
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Olerand wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I just found out and I'm sorry for those who died and those who were wounded. Has it been confirmed if the perpetrator is an Islamist or not? All I heard was that he was native to Strasbourg.

Officially, no. Nothing will come out until he is apprehended, or more likely, dead. But let's not play this game until its usual conclusion, yes, he is. Le Figaro is reporting that his name is Chérif S, which is yet unverified.

Kubumba Tribe wrote:I gtg y'all. Assalamu 'Alaikum wa RaHmatullahi wa Barakatuhu. May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah SWT be upon you.

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It's not a game. I would rather not jump into conclusions until the facts come up. If he is am Islamic extremist, punish him to the fullest extent of the law. If he is not, punish him to the fullest extent of the law.
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Sukberia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Can you at least quit insulting everyone's beliefs?

Can your beliefs change so that they don't make laws that allow people to be killed?

Religion burned our best minds at the stake when it ruled. Now you got your feelings hurt? Ahaha!

Religion is a right that anyone can use. I prefer my religion to whatever you believe in.
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Postby Balnik » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:27 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Balnik wrote:Philippines Libya, Nigeria, Somalia. Etc

True, true. Then my assertion about Christianity was wrong. That doesn't mean all Muslims are bad, however.

I don't think so either. I think they should stay in their land however.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Balnik wrote:
The South Falls wrote:That's true. But muslims have not attempted to take over nations outside the middle east, if memory serves me.

Philippines Libya, Nigeria, Somalia. Etc

The Ottoman invasion of the Balkans?
The Mhuggal invasion of India?
The Caliphate's invasion of Hispania and France?

Sicily?

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:28 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:


Radicalised = Islamic in Europe at the moment.


I think Olerand explained earlier that "S" security label was given to any extremists that the Interior Ministry is concerned about and wish to keep greater tabs on, including but not limited to Islamic extremists.

Indeed.
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