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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:00 pm

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Omg how did you manage to find a pro-LGBT church in your country? I've been looking with little luck

... The vast majority of Protestant churches in Europe are. And quite a few American ones too. Though America also has to shoulder the most far-right Christian denominations too.
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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Well aware commie, but if you read the articles you would have determined that there are offshoots to said groups, and even if they were simply left without successors it would still prove my point. Some Muslims in Europe support sharia law.


And there are Christians in America who support biblical law. Your point?

I was disproving the comment I quoted. Your point for going after me?

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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:00 pm

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I'm also a Christian, feel free to tell me my own religion hates me too while you're at it.

Your religion hates you too. Your God wants you to go to hell.


This is getting out of hand, attacking someone's deeply-held religious identity is unconscionable and its not your job to lecture him on whether his sexuality is compatible with his religion, that's a personal matter and not something for you to be lecture-y or paternalistic about.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:01 pm

Olerand wrote:
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Omg how did you manage to find a pro-LGBT church in your country? I've been looking with little luck

... The vast majority of Protestant churches in Europe are. And quite a few American ones too. Though America also has to shoulder the most far-right Christian denominations too.


I'm not in Europe remember? I go to church in Singapore which is a way more homophobic and far less gay-friendly country. Sighs.
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Postby Balnik » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:01 pm

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Balnik wrote:I can't remember the last time the KKK nearly took over two countries entirely, or were the source of a massive period of unrest, or butchered hundreds in the streets with automatic rifles, or mass immigrated into other countries, and then tried to spread their views while commiting large acts of terror.

The IRA did commit the first three acts. Oh, and the KKK did attempt the last one. Successfully.

I don't recall the IRA being Christian extrimists and radicals bent on establishing a holy land. Yes the KKK did commit violent and grotesque actions, however not to the scale that we see today with radical Islam. I've never heard of a Klansmen going to Mexico and then staging a terrorist attack in the modern day.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:01 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:Gay Muslims jump off roofs the moment they reach majority age. *nod*

Gay Muslims get thrown off roofs the moment their families learn they are gay.

:roll:

This discussion is going great. I suspect the mods will be very irritated when they inevitably have to come and clean this thread up.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:01 pm

Olerand wrote:
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American Presbyterian? Then no it doesn't. Now, if you were to tell me Baptist, then yes, it does.


I mean, I am PC(USA) so my own church loves me and I know they do, that's in no way a reflection of all Presbyterians, thinking EPC, PCA, and ugh, ECO. Though for that last one, I don't trust anything about a denomination that can't use acronyms properly.

Then continue bearing in mind that Christianity as a local community and a global community has mixed thoughts on the matter.
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I was talking about a mod ruling.

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Ok, I have carved out the last ten pages of this. Everyone involved in this thread was tap dancing right on the line in multiple ways. We had discussion of pedophilia, close to outright avocation, which you guys should damn well know by now is not allowed here. We had flaming that went RIGHT to the line. We had trollnaming. etc.

Pretty much I believe I would be justified in just starting to swing my hammer and see who I hit at this point.

I won't. For all of this, I feel that we stayed JUST inside the line. JUST. Another Mod might feel differently and to be frank, if someone else feels that lines were stepped over, I shall not shed tears to be overturned here.

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There are multiple arguments to be made about Muhammad and about what he did or did not do. THIS particular topic, his marriage to a girl who in today's world would be considered underage, is obviously leading to areas that are not allowed. Drop it. He married her a number of centuries ago, and we'll go with that. The rightness/wrongness/morality of it, etc. should be avoided from here on out due to the inability to stay away from areas of avocation.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:02 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Olerand wrote:... The vast majority of Protestant churches in Europe are. And quite a few American ones too. Though America also has to shoulder the most far-right Christian denominations too.


I'm not in Europe remember? I go to church in Singapore which is a way more homophobic and far less gay-friendly country. Sighs.

Are you not in England studying now? In Singapore... Uhm... Do you have Western expat churches?
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Postby The Black Party » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Well aware commie, but if you read the articles you would have determined that there are offshoots to said groups, and even if they were simply left without successors it would still prove my point. Some Muslims in Europe support sharia law.


And there are Christians in America who support biblical law. Your point?

Drink every time Vassenor deflects. The argument has nothing to do with Christians in America. The argument is whether or not there are Muslims in Europe who support the implementation of Sharia law in Europe.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:02 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And there are Christians in America who support biblical law. Your point?

Drink every time Vassenor deflects. The argument has nothing to do with Christians in America. The argument is whether or not there are Muslims in Europe who support the implementation of Sharia law in Europe.


And what are the chances of it actually happening? Which was my original point
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Postby The Black Party » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:03 pm

Olerand wrote: :roll:

This discussion is going great. I suspect the mods will be very irritated when they inevitably have to come and clean this thread up.

They shouldn't be irritated for having to do their job.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:03 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And there are Christians in America who support biblical law. Your point?

Drink every time Vassenor deflects. The argument has nothing to do with Christians in America. The argument is whether or not there are Muslims in Europe who support the implementation of Sharia law in Europe.

That's not what this thread's supposed to be about.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:03 pm

Kannap wrote:
Olerand wrote:American Presbyterian? Then no it doesn't. Now, if you were to tell me Baptist, then yes, it does.


I mean, I am PC(USA) so my own church loves me and I know they do, that's in no way a reflection of all Presbyterians, thinking EPC, PCA, and ugh, ECO. Though for that last one, I don't trust anything about a denomination that can't use acronyms properly.

Then continue bearing in mind that Christianity as a local community and a global community has mixed thoughts on the matter.

I'm not so well versed in the trillions of American Christian churches in existence. I only know of the mainstream Presbyterian Church in America.

Anyway, our existence in Europe, and the existence of minorities in the Muslim world, would be so much easier if there was a PC denomination in Islam.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:03 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Black Party wrote:Drink every time Vassenor deflects. The argument has nothing to do with Christians in America. The argument is whether or not there are Muslims in Europe who support the implementation of Sharia law in Europe.


And what are the chances of it actually happening? Which was my original point

Apparently Belgium, a country like Germany famous for its beer, will suddenly pass Sharia law and ban all alcohol.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:04 pm

Olerand wrote:
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I'm not in Europe remember? I go to church in Singapore which is a way more homophobic and far less gay-friendly country. Sighs.

Are you not in England studying now? In Singapore... Uhm... Do you have Western expat churches?


Oh yeah I'm in Oxford, unfortunately the two main churches in the area (St Aldates and St Ebbes) are both Anglican and surprisingly not very pro-LGBT (I say surprising owing to how many students go to those churches which is why I thought they'd be more liberal about it)
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For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:04 pm

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The Black Party wrote:Drink every time Vassenor deflects. The argument has nothing to do with Christians in America. The argument is whether or not there are Muslims in Europe who support the implementation of Sharia law in Europe.

That's not what this thread's supposed to be about.


But if they can't virtue signal about how evil they think Muslims are, what will they do instead?
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:04 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Olerand wrote:... The vast majority of Protestant churches in Europe are. And quite a few American ones too. Though America also has to shoulder the most far-right Christian denominations too.


I'm not in Europe remember? I go to church in Singapore which is a way more homophobic and far less gay-friendly country. Sighs.

Maybe you should move to another country then.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:05 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Olerand wrote: :roll:

This discussion is going great. I suspect the mods will be very irritated when they inevitably have to come and clean this thread up.

They shouldn't be irritated for having to do their job.

One can still be irritated by the amount of work one has to do. You've never been irritated at work?

I guess it's that infamous French work ethic...
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:05 pm

Balnik wrote:
The South Falls wrote:The IRA did commit the first three acts. Oh, and the KKK did attempt the last one. Successfully.

I don't recall the IRA being Christian extrimists and radicals bent on establishing a holy land. Yes the KKK did commit violent and grotesque actions, however not to the scale that we see today with radical Islam. I've never heard of a Klansmen going to Mexico and then staging a terrorist attack in the modern day.

The IRA did mow down people in the streets or detonate bombs in public areas. The IRA didn't move outside Ireland and the UK's archipelago, but through the troubles, they still committed as many crimes.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:05 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:That's not what this thread's supposed to be about.


But if they can't virtue signal about how evil they think Muslims are, what will they do instead?

Legit talk about the possible terrorist attack like this thread was made for?
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:05 pm

Sukberia wrote:
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I'm also a Christian, feel free to tell me my own religion hates me too while you're at it.

Your religion hates you too. Your God wants you to go to hell.


Thanks for showing me I have no reason to take your opinions seriously, carry on then.
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:05 pm

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But if they can't virtue signal about how evil they think Muslims are, what will they do instead?

Legit talk about the possible terrorist attack like this thread was made for?


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