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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:54 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:Killing people is not genetical. It is a choice. As I have said before, I have a friend who's Muslim and he hasn't killed anyone.


When your friend kills somebody, you'll come running into Sukberia's telegrams yelling "You told me so!"

Honestly, just imprison everybody who even jokes about the law.

It's genetic.
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:55 pm

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The South Falls wrote:I'm not sure Muhammad was a pedophile, but that's for another time.

No it's not. The mods banned that topic from discussion.


Can you show me where?
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:55 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:Don't care. They probably are like this because everyone's like "Kill the Muslims!"


Well, actually, wrong. These fundamentalists for the most want the return of the Islam Muhammad knew, as a reaction to the degenerate modernism they saw being practiced by both Muslims and non-Muslims.

I'm still laughing at the idea that the killing of religious and sexual minorities in the Muslim world is because of... everyone else wanting to "kill all Muslims"... :lol2:
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:55 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
The Black Party wrote:What is wrong with Sharia law? No Muslims are advocating for Europe to implement Sharia law anyways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia4Belgium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam4UK


...you do realise one of those is listed as being defunct since 2010, right? And the other as such since 2012?
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:55 pm

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The South Falls wrote:That's like saying Christianity is disgusting because of the KKK.

I can't remember the last time the KKK nearly took over two countries entirely, or were the source of a massive period of unrest, or butchered hundreds in the streets with automatic rifles, or mass immigrated into other countries, and then tried to spread their views while commiting large acts of terror.

Well they kill African-Americans. That's bad.
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Postby The Black Party » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:56 pm

Vassenor wrote:Everybody drink.

I'm not sure if I can drink anymore, I've chugged a few bottles of vodka as soon as I saw some of your counter-arguments.
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The Black Party wrote:What is wrong with Sharia law? No Muslims are advocating for Europe to implement Sharia law anyways.

Toaslandia wrote:Where? Show me.

Show me as well.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:56 pm

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How many times do I have to say that you can oppose homophobic Muslims without opposing all Muslims generally?

Because those homophobic muslims are homophobic thanks to the Quran. Islam itself is Homophobic.


The Bible and Torah gave homophobic verses in them as well, but liberal Christians and conservative Christians simply put different interpretations on those same verses. Liberal Christians take the view that supposedly anti-gay verses are not a general prohibition on homosexual per se but specific cultural practices like pederastry and pedophilia and that anti-gay verses must be read in the conservative cultural context and background against it was written, conservative Christians of course disagree. My point is its all about the interpretation you put on the relevant anti-gay verses. There are pro-LGBT Muslim groups like the Al-Fatiha Foundation.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:56 pm

The Black Party wrote:What is wrong with Sharia law? No Muslims are advocating for Europe to implement Sharia law anyways.

Yes there are.
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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Here's another person taking about a banned topic.


I’m unaware that the mods have banned it.

You were told that in this thread.
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So yeah, calling out my sexuality so that my opinions were invalidated - opinions that you haven't bothered to really listen to anyway. Also, cute joke thinking Europe will adopt Sharia Law.

I just find ironic that an homosexual defends a religion that wants him dead.

He doesn't.
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:56 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
Yeah 46% of muslims respect the republican values. Nothing to worry.

Ah, okay sorry wasn't careful enough to pick that up. Okay well that statistic does concern me then, to be perfectly honest.

The Institut Montaigne's use of the term majority also doesn't make sense... It's a plurality really, but I guess if you want to further a non-alarming agenda you would call it a "relative" majority, but certainly not a majority. 46% does not, in math and logic, a "simple" majority make.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:56 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sukberia wrote:I just find ironic that an homosexual defends a religion that wants him dead. Europe won't "adopt" Sharia law. It will be forced upon it.


I'm also a Christian, feel free to tell me my own religion hates me too while you're at it.

What denomination of Christianity?
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:57 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Black Party wrote:What is wrong with Sharia law? No Muslims are advocating for Europe to implement Sharia law anyways.

Yes there are.
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I’m unaware that the mods have banned it.

You were told that in this thread.
Sukberia wrote:I just find ironic that an homosexual defends a religion that wants him dead.

He doesn't.


So that’s a no they haven’t then and you have no defence?
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:57 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Olerand wrote:I mean, when you claim that the oppression of minorities in the Muslim world is a result of their response to others wanting to "kill all Muslims"... What is there to show?

I really don't care about what some French people say about Islam, It's not evil.

Right... Not really what I'm taking about... I'd imagine the LGBTs of the Muslim world wouldn't thank you for your solidarity though.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:57 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Sukberia wrote:I just find ironic that an homosexual defends a religion that wants him dead. Europe won't "adopt" Sharia law. It will be forced upon it.


Everybody drink.

Gay Muslims jump off roofs the moment they reach majority age. *nod*
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:57 pm

Right wing humour squad wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yes there are.

You were told that in this thread.

He doesn't.


So that’s a no they haven’t then and you have no defence?

What are you talking about? The mod thing?
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Balnik » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:58 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Balnik wrote:I can't remember the last time the KKK nearly took over two countries entirely, or were the source of a massive period of unrest, or butchered hundreds in the streets with automatic rifles, or mass immigrated into other countries, and then tried to spread their views while commiting large acts of terror.

Well they kill African-Americans. That's bad.

Indeed. However I do not think the actions of the KKK are at all comparable to the deeds done by radical Islamic groups.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:58 pm

Balnik wrote:
The South Falls wrote:That's like saying Christianity is disgusting because of the KKK.

I can't remember the last time the KKK nearly took over two countries entirely, or were the source of a massive period of unrest, or butchered hundreds in the streets with automatic rifles, or mass immigrated into other countries, and then tried to spread their views while commiting large acts of terror.

The IRA did commit the first three acts. Oh, and the KKK did attempt the last one. Successfully.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:58 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I'm also a Christian, feel free to tell me my own religion hates me too while you're at it.

What denomination of Christianity?


Presbyterian
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:58 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Right wing humour squad wrote:
So that’s a no they haven’t then and you have no defence?

What are you talking about? The mod thing?


Yeah mate
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:59 pm

Vassenor wrote:


...you do realise one of those is listed as being defunct since 2010, right? And the other as such since 2012?

Well aware commie, but if you read the articles you would have determined that there are offshoots to said groups, and even if they were simply left without successors it would still prove my point. Some Muslims in Europe support sharia law.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:59 pm

Kannap wrote:
Olerand wrote:What denomination of Christianity?


Presbyterian

American Presbyterian? Then no it doesn't. Now, if you were to tell me Baptist, then yes, it does.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:59 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sukberia wrote:I just find ironic that an homosexual defends a religion that wants him dead. Europe won't "adopt" Sharia law. It will be forced upon it.


I'm also a Christian, feel free to tell me my own religion hates me too while you're at it.

Your religion hates you too. Your God wants you to go to hell.

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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:59 pm

Kannap wrote:
Olerand wrote:What denomination of Christianity?


Presbyterian


Omg how did you manage to find a pro-LGBT church in your country? I've been looking with little luck
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For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:00 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
...you do realise one of those is listed as being defunct since 2010, right? And the other as such since 2012?

Well aware commie, but if you read the articles you would have determined that there are offshoots to said groups, and even if they were simply left without successors it would still prove my point. Some Muslims in Europe support sharia law.


And there are Christians in America who support biblical law. Your point?
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:00 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I'm also a Christian, feel free to tell me my own religion hates me too while you're at it.

Your religion hates you too. Your God wants you to go to hell.

God does not wish anyone to go to Hell. He wants all to be with him in Heaven.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:00 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Everybody drink.

Gay Muslims jump off roofs the moment they reach majority age. *nod*

Gay Muslims get thrown off roofs the moment their families learn they are gay.

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