Strasbourg terrorist incident

[Sukberia]

LGBT people don't come with a book telling them to kill people. It's genetical, it's proven by science.

Muslims come with a book telling them to kill gays.

What's next? Jews defending Nazis? (Wow, i'm using nazis as an exemple alot.)

Killing people is not genetical. It is a choice. As I have said before, I have a friend who's Muslim and he hasn't killed anyone.

Oh you have a friend hein? Well there was nearly 7.000 ISIS fighters who fought and killed people for what their book told them.

Your friend lives in an Western society and most likely got western thinking into his head. If he had grown up in an islamic country, like S.Arabia, then maybe he would think that killing a certain kind of people was acceptable. Even righteous.

[Purgatio]

It never left, so I don't know what you're talking about.

What is pro-Muslim?

Do you have an example of a European country that is close to re-implementing sodomy laws because of Muslim immigration? Because as far as I know, no European country fits that description.

So, if polls show that by and large, Muslims in Europe reject European values post-sexual liberation. They have (yet) to effect the law, but a growing segment of society radically, and violently, rejects the LGBTs, let's say, just as a hypothesis.
Is that, fine? Acceptable?

I mean, if that were true, I'd be concerned, sure. But my understanding is that younger generations of European Muslims generally hold more liberal views than their parents and grandparents, including on issues like LGBT rights. Unless I'm mistaken about that.

[Toaslandia]

I'm not defending them, but I'm saying we can't just kill people because they worship Islam.

No but deporting and containing until they lose the Islam is still our best and most humane course.

Islam is a religion. People have the right to worship it.

[Kubumba Tribe]

My mates? What are you talking about? And those aren't diversity barriers.

It's probably time to acknowledge that even as you reject their violence, these perpetrators absolutely are Muslim. That will go a bit towards mollifying the audience you might want to impress.

I know they're Muslim. That doesn't make them my mates. Not fully.

Muslims come with a book telling them to kill gays.

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[Toaslandia]

Killing people is not genetical. It is a choice. As I have said before, I have a friend who's Muslim and he hasn't killed anyone.

Oh you have a friend hein? Well there was nearly 7.000 ISIS fighters who fought and killed people for what their book told them.

Your friend lives in an Western society and most likely got western thinking into his head. If he had grown up in an islamic country, like S.Arabia, then maybe he would think that killing a certain kind of people was acceptable. Even righteous.

So you're saying every Muslim in the ME is a terrorist? I don't think so, buddy.

[The Black Party]

I don't care if Islam spreads across the world.

But would you care if Nazism spreads across the world?

[The South Falls]

Killing people is not genetical. It is a choice. As I have said before, I have a friend who's Muslim and he hasn't killed anyone.

Oh you have a friend hein? Well there was nearly 7.000 ISIS fighters who fought and killed people for what their book told them.

Your friend lives in an Western society and most likely got western thinking into his head. If he had grown up in an islamic country, like S.Arabia, then maybe he would think that killing a certain kind of people was acceptable. Even righteous.

Yea, then we'd have 2-million people strong death squads.

[The South Falls]

Oh you have a friend hein? Well there was nearly 7.000 ISIS fighters who fought and killed people for what their book told them.

Your friend lives in an Western society and most likely got western thinking into his head. If he had grown up in an islamic country, like S.Arabia, then maybe he would think that killing a certain kind of people was acceptable. Even righteous.

So you're saying every Muslim in the ME is a terrorist? I don't think so, buddy.

That's, what, a billion people?

[Toaslandia]

I don't care if Islam spreads across the world.

But would you care if Nazism spreads across the world?

Yes. But Islam is a religion and therefore people can worship it if they choose to.

[Sukberia]

Not yet.

Then again, in 1936, Hitler wasn't ready for war. Not yet.

Ah yes, the typical "gay people should hate Muslims because Muslims will soon criminalise gay sex throughout Europe" line, this is refreshingly familiar scare propaganda.

Don't hate muslims then. Ignore them. Just like the jews did to the nazis.

(damn nazi reference again).

[Olerand]

... We're headed for the toilet... This from America...


Sharia law is incompatible with the ECHR, per the ECHR's rulings. That the British allow Sharia courts for familial matters is... well, to be expected from the British.


No it isn't. Inter-ethnic and interreligious conflict isn't exactly our idea of the future.

Both the interethnic and interreligious conflicts in Mindanao are done for for the most part; Marawi was proof positive of that. What conflict remains is Duterte-sanctioned.

Yeah, whether they're over or not isn't really the discussion. We don't want them. We don't really fancy seeing cities in our countries occupied by ISIS.

[Toaslandia]

Ah yes, the typical "gay people should hate Muslims because Muslims will soon criminalise gay sex throughout Europe" line, this is refreshingly familiar scare propaganda.

Don't hate muslims then. Ignore them. Just like the jews did to the nazis.

(damn nazi reference again).

Muslims aren't Nazis.

[Right wing humour squad]

No but deporting and containing until they lose the Islam is still our best and most humane course.

Islam is a religion. People have the right to worship it.

And everyone else has a right to be protected from it.

[Olerand]

Nice rebuttal. Muslims are growing at a faster rate than natives. It will happen if we don't act.

I don't care if Islam spreads across the world.

With the current far-right streak dominant in Islam, you should. Do you consider yourself an atheist, an LGBT, a non-Muslim, or a lover of Anglo-Saxon free speech or whatever?

[Right wing humour squad]

Don't hate muslims then. Ignore them. Just like the jews did to the nazis.

(damn nazi reference again).

Muslims aren't Nazis.

Well some were. And it’s not like Islam is better than Nazism.

[Sukberia]

Oh you have a friend hein? Well there was nearly 7.000 ISIS fighters who fought and killed people for what their book told them.

Your friend lives in an Western society and most likely got western thinking into his head. If he had grown up in an islamic country, like S.Arabia, then maybe he would think that killing a certain kind of people was acceptable. Even righteous.

So you're saying every Muslim in the ME is a terrorist? I don't think so, buddy.

I never said that. Their book tells them to be terrorists tho. They either don't because they don't feel the need to (since these countries already apply the Sharia) or because they are weak. As are most humans.

[Toaslandia]

Islam is a religion. People have the right to worship it.

And everyone else has a right to be protected from it.

Well innocent Muslims shouldn't be persecuted by the far-right and others for following their religion.

[Purgatio]

Ah yes, the typical "gay people should hate Muslims because Muslims will soon criminalise gay sex throughout Europe" line, this is refreshingly familiar scare propaganda.

Don't hate muslims then. Ignore them. Just like the jews did to the nazis.

(damn nazi reference again).

As I already explained, me as an LGBT man tolerating Muslims is not equivalent to Jews tolerating Nazis, because pro-Jewish Nazis don't exist, whereas pro-LGBT Muslims do (again, see Al-Fatiha Foundation)

[Duhon]

I'm not defending them, but I'm saying we can't just kill people because they worship Islam.

No but deporting and containing until they lose the Islam is still our best and most humane course.

This was tried with Europe's Jews and look what happened.

[Sukberia]

Don't hate muslims then. Ignore them. Just like the jews did to the nazis.

(damn nazi reference again).

Muslims aren't Nazis.

Close tho.

[Toaslandia]

I don't care if Islam spreads across the world.

With the current far-right streak dominant in Islam, you should. Do you consider yourself an atheist, an LGBT, a non-Muslim, or a lover of Anglo-Saxon free speech or whatever?

I am a non-Muslim, but they have the right to worship.

[Toaslandia]

So you're saying every Muslim in the ME is a terrorist? I don't think so, buddy.

I never said that. Their book tells them to be terrorists tho. They either don't because they don't feel the need to (since these countries already apply the Sharia) or because they are weak. As are most humans.

The 1,000 year old book says "BE A TERRORIST."?

[Sukberia]

But would you care if Nazism spreads across the world?

Yes. But Islam is a religion and therefore people can worship it if they choose to.

Yes, and i have the right to disagree with their ideas, and call them on their disgusting cult, if i choose to.

They don't have the right to censor me tho.

[Right wing humour squad]

No but deporting and containing until they lose the Islam is still our best and most humane course.

This was tried with Europe's Jews and look what happened.

Israel being the sole bastion of peace in the Middle East ?
/sarcasm

No it wasn’t.

[Snottistan]

No but deporting and containing until they lose the Islam is still our best and most humane course.

Islam is a religion. People have the right to worship it.

"Our Western values are under threat! The only way to protect them is by abandoning our Western values! To protect our Western values!"