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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:57 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:My belief is that if you believe in your religion and are faithful to it, you'll go to your afterlife. It seems atheists won't enjoy that privilege.

If you only worship to go to heaven, then your God is forcing you to worship him. Have fun in heaven...slave.

Have fun not existing when you die, atheist.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:57 pm

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Oh, yeah, because everyone was atheist before Christianity. Not like the pagan religions were actually more illogical than Christianity or anything. Also, no one in human history has every willingly converted to Christianity!

Daily reminder that everyone is born atheist before brainwashing happens. ;)

That's a dumb thing to say. Superstition is intrinsically human. It has to be educated out and, even then, tends to stick in some form or another. If people don't know the reasons for things happening and lack the tools to discover those reasons then superstition and fallacies step in to explain. Religion is just superstition codified, expanded, and mythologized.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:57 pm

Olerand wrote:
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Its called ES v. Austria. Enjoy: http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2018/891.html

Yeah, that's not... Let's not, the ruling wasn't a determination of if or not Muhammad is a pedophile, or if a citizen of a country without a blasphemy law were to say so in an academic discussion. Anyway, the whole thing is no.


It was a determination of whether on the facts of that case, the application of Austria's blasphemy laws against the applicant given her remarks about the Prophert Mohammad when placed in context was contrary or incompatible with Article 10 freedom of expression, and the prosecution was held compatible.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:57 pm

Olerand wrote:
Sukberia wrote:Why don't they flee to neiboughooding (sorry for misspel) countries? You know... with similar laws and cultures? Oh right, because people there don't throw you stuff for free and they kill you if you rape someone. Unlike Europe.

Oh God, I have to side with the Anglo-Saxon liberals... :roll:

Most do. A large "most".

WOW, there really are a shit ton of migrants then! Since Europe took like, what? 2 Million?

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:57 pm

Duhon wrote:
Olerand wrote:The terrorist was born in Strasbourg.


"'Strasbourgistan'! There -- now it's Muslim, now he's an illegal!"

But bleak jokerie aside -- can we for once not do as this guy evidently did and drag ALL Muslims or immigrants or Basques or whatever into the bloody stake? Can we fucking not?

Between the whatabouttery, the pogrom fetishism and the puerile right-wing clownerie, no, we can't.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:It is easy to mistake Strasbourg for Germany, though. It is rightful German clay.

:roll:
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:If you only worship to go to heaven, then your God is forcing you to worship him. Have fun in heaven...slave.

Have fun not existing when you die, atheist.

Rather be free in Hell, than be a slave in Heaven :p , have fun with the nailed one.

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Postby Torrocca » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:58 pm

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This never would've happened if Napoleon hadn't whored out the rightful French territory of Louisiana to America, duh.



Ah, yes, I too remember how that happened as recently as... whenever you could start to remember days.

As we all know, now, the entirety of Christendom has submitted itself to Atheist Jesus.



Are you saying the Church did things hypocritical to Christian morals and atrociously persecuted people? Well I never!



US Customary Units is peak American Exceptionalism, however.

Oh, this made me laugh out loud. Napoleon never “whored out” Louisiana to America, he sold it to get money so he could win the war. And he failed, so sucks to be him.

And the US Customary Units is only because no one wants to have to learn a whole new measurement system. Personally, I would be okay with it, but I’m in the minority.


Are you daring to insinuate that Napoleon made a mutually-beneficial deal with the United States instead of pimping Louisiana out as nothing more than a flat-grounded slut for America as I've so sarcastically suggested? The nerve of some people!
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:My belief is that if you believe in your religion and are faithful to it, you'll go to your afterlife. It seems atheists won't enjoy that privilege.

If you only worship to go to heaven, then your God is forcing you to worship him. Have fun in heaven...slave.

I take this as a compliment. It's probs the best compliment you could give a religious person. Thank you. :)
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Purgatio wrote:
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I’m not aware of this ruling. Seems counterintuitive since it’s the central fact of Islam.


Its called ES v. Austria. Enjoy: http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2018/891.html


I was talking about a mod ruling.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Olerand wrote:Yeah, that's not... Let's not, the ruling wasn't a determination of if or not Muhammad is a pedophile, or if a citizen of a country without a blasphemy law were to say so in an academic discussion. Anyway, the whole thing is no.


It was a determination of whether on the facts of that case, the application of Austria's blasphemy laws against the applicant given her remarks about the Prophert Mohammad when placed in context was contrary or incompatible with Article 10 freedom of expression, and the prosecution was held compatible.

Absolutely. As applicable to the facts of this case, and to the laws of Austria.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Olerand wrote:
Duhon wrote:
"'Strasbourgistan'! There -- now it's Muslim, now he's an illegal!"

But bleak jokerie aside -- can we for once not do as this guy evidently did and drag ALL Muslims or immigrants or Basques or whatever into the bloody stake? Can we fucking not?

Between the whatabouttery, the pogrom fetishism and the puerile right-wing clownerie, no, we can't.


What exactly is 'pogrom fetishism'?
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Postby Duhon » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
From what I heard, this guy was born in Strasbourg. But sure, letting in those homeless tricksters trying to flee war torn nations is doing this.

Why don't they flee to neiboughooding (sorry for misspel) countries? You know... with similar laws and cultures? Oh right, because people there don't throw you stuff for free and they kill you if you rape someone. Unlike Europe.


I don't know if this is still the case, but at the height of the war in Syria, Lebanon housed two million (presumably majority Muslim) refugees, far more than any other European country at the time.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Daily reminder that everyone is born atheist before brainwashing happens. ;)

Brainwahing!? I have the right to what I believe in!


Toaslandia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Daily reminder that everyone is born atheist before brainwashing happens. ;)

Brainwahing!? I have the right to what I believe in!

The point, which you somehow missed, is that nobody becomes religious on their own. (Except cavemen.)
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Sukberia wrote:If you only worship to go to heaven, then your God is forcing you to worship him. Have fun in heaven...slave.

Have fun not existing when you die, atheist.

You’ll be dead. You won’t be able to care.
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:Have fun not existing when you die, atheist.

Rather be free in Hell, than be a slave in Heaven :p , have fun with the nailed one.

You'd rather face eternal torment then eternal life? What the f*** is wrong with you?
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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:It is easy to mistake Strasbourg for Germany, though. It is rightful German clay.

:roll:

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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
From what I heard, this guy was born in Strasbourg. But sure, letting in those homeless tricksters trying to flee war torn nations is doing this.

Why don't they flee to neiboughooding (sorry for misspel) countries? You know... with similar laws and cultures? Oh right, because people there don't throw you stuff for free and they kill you if you rape someone. Unlike Europe.


I mean, if the entire United States were a warzone, I wouldn't settle for fleeing from North Carolina to Pennsylvania, one warzone to another, I'd want to flee to England or France or somewhere far from it all.
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Kowani wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:Brainwahing!? I have the right to what I believe in!


Toaslandia wrote:Brainwahing!? I have the right to what I believe in!

The point, which you somehow missed, is that nobody becomes religious on their own. (Except cavemen.)
Toaslandia wrote:Have fun not existing when you die, atheist.

You’ll be dead. You won’t be able to care.

I will. You won't.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Olerand wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
It was a determination of whether on the facts of that case, the application of Austria's blasphemy laws against the applicant given her remarks about the Prophert Mohammad when placed in context was contrary or incompatible with Article 10 freedom of expression, and the prosecution was held compatible.

Absolutely. As applicable to the facts of this case, and to the laws of Austria.


Yeah, I wasn't suggesting it was a generic ruling about whether Prophet Muhammad was a pedophile, but when a poster mentioned a 'ruling' regarding calling the Prophet Muhammad a pedophile I naturally assumed that was the case he was referring to. Now he's said he was referring to a mod ruling not a Strasbourg ruling, so I stand corrected.
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For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kaggeceria wrote:It is easy to mistake Strasbourg for Germany, though. It is rightful German clay.

:roll:

I thought that after 2 WW's, 2 partitions, and a communist occupation, Germany would've learnt its lesson. I guess we went easy on them?

Napoleon's Empire did include the Rhineland...

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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Olerand wrote:
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They are also the product of Protestant-Catholic religious sectarian tensions within Ireland and Northern Ireland, I don't think we can deny the influence of religion on the IRA.

No, we can't deny the influence of the oppression of Irish Catholics by Protestants and the resulting rise in a distinct Irish nationalism and religious tensions. We can deny that the IRA was a "Christian" organization, as it killed Christians, and never did so in the name of Christianity.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:If you only worship to go to heaven, then your God is forcing you to worship him. Have fun in heaven...slave.

Have fun not existing when you die, atheist.


Don't threaten me with a good time.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Olerand wrote:Oh God, I have to side with the Anglo-Saxon liberals... :roll:

Most do. A large "most".

WOW, there really are a shit ton of migrants then! Since Europe took like, what? 2 Million?

Yes, there are; yes, it did.

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Netherspace wrote:Oh, this made me laugh out loud. Napoleon never “whored out” Louisiana to America, he sold it to get money so he could win the war. And he failed, so sucks to be him.

And the US Customary Units is only because no one wants to have to learn a whole new measurement system. Personally, I would be okay with it, but I’m in the minority.


Are you daring to insinuate that Napoleon made a mutually-beneficial deal with the United States instead of pimping Louisiana out as nothing more than a flat-grounded slut for America as I've so sarcastically suggested? The nerve of some people!

I mean, it was barely beneficial to us. Could have gotten a much better deal, but we were rushed. The Russians lost out on Alaska too. America's been lucky. Divine providence or whatever I guess.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Kaggeceria wrote:
Olerand wrote: :roll:

The Imperial Territory of Alsace-Lorraine will be reborn, my French friend.


Just fuse it with Belgium and and call it bring back Lotharingia, that way nobody's happy except the Carolingians.
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:01 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:Have fun not existing when you die, atheist.


Don't threaten me with a good time.


Okay, this all got nihilistic fast
Purgatio is an absolutist hereditary monarchy run as a one-party fascist dictatorship, which seized power in a sudden and abrupt coup d'état of 1987-1988, on an authoritarian eugenic and socially Darwinistic political philosophy and ideology, now ruled and dominated with a brutal iron fist under the watchful reign of Le Grand Roi Chalon-Arlay de la Fayette and La Grande Reine Geneviève de la Fayette (née Aumont) (i.e., the 'Founding Couple' or Le Couple Fondateur).

For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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