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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:52 pm

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Remember that time when Christianity bent the knee to the threat of DESTRUCTION by atheistic FACTS and LOGIC so hard that nearly two billion people across the world are Christians today?


Oh, yeah, because everyone was atheist before Christianity. Not like the pagan religions were actually more illogical than Christianity or anything. Also, no one in human history has every willingly converted to Christianity!

Daily reminder that everyone is born atheist before brainwashing happens. ;)
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:52 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:Well too bad. I believe in the one true God, and why would we celebrate the death of the clergy? The death of anyone is nothing to celebrate.

Let us know when you can actually prove your God’s existence.

But. Clergy that stood by and allowed (and sometimes perpetuated) Noble abuses, or were the perpetrators of them...I’m not shedding a tear over their deaths.

Well the Dark Age clergy were evil, but the modern clergy are not. And have you heard of the resurrection of Lazarus?
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:53 pm

Kowani wrote:
Netherspace wrote:
Oh, yeah, because everyone was atheist before Christianity. Not like the pagan religions were actually more illogical than Christianity or anything. Also, no one in human history has every willingly converted to Christianity!

Daily reminder that everyone is born atheist before brainwashing happens. ;)

Brainwahing!? I have the right to what I believe in!
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:53 pm

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Kowani wrote:So, we’ve had this discussion in the IDT. It took a very long time. Then the mods stepped in. Regardless of veracity, we cannot argue about whether Muhammad was a pedophile.


I’m not aware of this ruling. Seems counterintuitive since it’s the central fact of Islam.


Its called ES v. Austria. Enjoy: http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2018/891.html
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:53 pm

This thread is moving too fast damnit
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:53 pm

Kannap wrote:
Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:


From what I heard, this guy was born in Strasbourg. But sure, letting in those homeless tricksters trying to flee war torn nations is doing this.

Why don't they flee to neiboughooding (sorry for misspel) countries? You know... with similar laws and cultures? Oh right, because people there don't throw you stuff for free and they kill you if you rape someone. Unlike Europe.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:53 pm

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Olerand wrote:The IRA is simply not a good example. They were Irish nationalists, fighting for Ireland, not the Pope. Islamists kill for their religion. The difference is rather evident.


They are also the product of Protestant-Catholic religious sectarian tensions within Ireland and Northern Ireland, I don't think we can deny the influence of religion on the IRA.

No, we can't deny the influence of the oppression of Irish Catholics by Protestants and the resulting rise in a distinct Irish nationalism and religious tensions. We can deny that the IRA was a "Christian" organization, as it killed Christians, and never did so in the name of Christianity.

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Olerand wrote:It's also in bad taste, but, again, one needs to be able to identify the concept first.


My comment was sarcasm, but I have no idea what Kubumba is going on about anymore.

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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:53 pm

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Olerand wrote:The terrorist was born in Strasbourg.

He's not a "real german", I guess?


Probably not, since Strasbourg is in France.
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:53 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:This thread is moving too fast damnit

It's changed from Strasbourg to a religious war!
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:54 pm

The South Falls wrote:
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Exactly, we must stop the madness.

He. Was. Born. In. Strasbourg.


Everyone knows that for some people "illegal immigration" is simply code for "Hispanic/Arab/Muslim/(insert what 'other' group we're scared of this week)"
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:54 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
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White people don't have a holy book telling to kill people.
Nationalists are different in size, shape and form.

Christians have already stopped when we separated Church and State.

I'm an white atheist.

I've realized this because if you believed in a religion, you would not get the fun afterlife.

If you believed in a religion, you’d better hope your belief was the right one, and not, say, your Zoanastrian neighbor.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:54 pm

Zordennox wrote:
Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:


Exactly, we must stop the madness.

Though I don't know why I bother, he was born in Strasbourg.
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Postby Duhon » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:54 pm

Olerand wrote:
Autvia wrote:This happened cause the Dang EU is letting in thousands of illegal immigrants. :!:

The terrorist was born in Strasbourg.


"'Strasbourgistan'! There -- now it's Muslim, now he's an illegal!"

But bleak jokerie aside -- can we for once not do as this guy evidently did and drag ALL Muslims or immigrants or Basques or whatever into the bloody stake? Can we fucking not?

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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:55 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Olerand wrote:The terrorist was born in Strasbourg.

He's not a "real german", I guess?

It's a French city so probably not.
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:55 pm

Kowani wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:I've realized this because if you believed in a religion, you would not get the fun afterlife.

If you believed in a religion, you’d better hope your belief was the right one, and not, say, your Zoanastrian neighbor.

My belief is that if you believe in your religion and are faithful to it, you'll go to your afterlife. It seems atheists won't enjoy that privilege.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:55 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Let us know when you can actually prove your God’s existence.

But. Clergy that stood by and allowed (and sometimes perpetuated) Noble abuses, or were the perpetrators of them...I’m not shedding a tear over their deaths.

Well the Dark Age clergy were evil, but the modern clergy are not. And have you heard of the resurrection of Lazarus?


The modern clergy are pedophiles, rapists and thiefs. But yes, they are still better than the Pre-Enlightenment Era filth.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:55 pm

Purgatio wrote:
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I’m not aware of this ruling. Seems counterintuitive since it’s the central fact of Islam.


Its called ES v. Austria. Enjoy: http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2018/891.html

Yeah, that's not... Let's not, the ruling wasn't a determination of if or not Muhammad is a pedophile, or if a citizen of a country without a blasphemy law were to say so in an academic discussion. Anyway, the whole thing is no.
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Postby Kaggeceria » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:55 pm

It is easy to mistake Strasbourg for Germany, though. It is rightful German clay.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:55 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
White people don't have a holy book telling to kill people.
Nationalists are different in size, shape and form.

Christians have already stopped when we separated Church and State.

I'm an white atheist.

my dude. Cool it. Only the radical fundamentalists branch of Islam tries to wreak holy war.

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Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
From what I heard, this guy was born in Strasbourg. But sure, letting in those homeless tricksters trying to flee war torn nations is doing this.

Why don't they flee to neiboughooding (sorry for misspel) countries? You know... with similar laws and cultures? Oh right, because people there don't throw you stuff for free and they kill you if you rape someone. Unlike Europe.

Because the nearby countries closed their borders.
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Postby Netherspace » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:56 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Netherspace wrote:
More like, “don’t stop white people, nationalists, and Christians because of Nazism! Not everyone who is minority’s like Hitler is a Nazi!”. What race and religion are you?


White people don't have a holy book telling to kill people.
Nationalists are different in size, shape and form.

Christians have already stopped when we separated Church and State.

I'm an white atheist.


Well then, I guess that makes you literally Stalin then.
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Kaggeceria wrote:Just how exactly does America become the topic in a thread about a French terrorist attack?


This never would've happened if Napoleon hadn't whored out the rightful French territory of Louisiana to America, duh.

Sukberia wrote:
No but i do remember the days where we guillotined the fucking priests who allowed nobles to rape and steal as they wanted. And when we seperated Church and State and forced them to accept science as a fact.


Ah, yes, I too remember how that happened as recently as... whenever you could start to remember days.

As we all know, now, the entirety of Christendom has submitted itself to Atheist Jesus.

Kowani wrote:Well, the Church being able to persecute people made it somewhat easier to maintain its status.


Are you saying the Church did things hypocritical to Christian morals and atrociously persecuted people? Well I never!

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Not every good point someone makes in favor of America is American exceptionalism.


US Customary Units is peak American Exceptionalism, however.

Oh, this made me laugh out loud. Napoleon never “whored out” Louisiana to America, he sold it to get money so he could win the war. And he failed, so sucks to be him.

And the US Customary Units is only because no one wants to have to learn a whole new measurement system. Personally, I would be okay with it, but I’m in the minority.

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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:56 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:Well the Dark Age clergy were evil, but the modern clergy are not. And have you heard of the resurrection of Lazarus?


The modern clergy are pedophiles, rapists and thiefs. But yes, they are still better than the Pre-Enlightenment Era filth.

Not all of them, only a few who were bad.
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:56 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Kowani wrote:If you believed in a religion, you’d better hope your belief was the right one, and not, say, your Zoanastrian neighbor.

My belief is that if you believe in your religion and are faithful to it, you'll go to your afterlife. It seems atheists won't enjoy that privilege.

If you only worship to go to heaven, then your God is forcing you to worship him. Have fun in heaven...slave.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:56 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
From what I heard, this guy was born in Strasbourg. But sure, letting in those homeless tricksters trying to flee war torn nations is doing this.

Why don't they flee to neiboughooding (sorry for misspel) countries? You know... with similar laws and cultures? Oh right, because people there don't throw you stuff for free and they kill you if you rape someone. Unlike Europe.

Oh God, I have to side with the Anglo-Saxon liberals... :roll:

Most do. A large "most".
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:56 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
The modern clergy are pedophiles, rapists and thiefs. But yes, they are still better than the Pre-Enlightenment Era filth.

Not all of them, only a few who were bad.

And those who were, we guillotined them. :p

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:57 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:Well the Dark Age clergy were evil, but the modern clergy are not. And have you heard of the resurrection of Lazarus?


The modern clergy are pedophiles, rapists and thiefs

Every single one?
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