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Postby Netherspace » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:35 pm

Olerand wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:I'm pretty sure France was involved in Pakistan to assist the US.

In Pakistan? Certainly not. In Afghanistan, yes, the US activated the NATO mutual defense clause.

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Partisan violence only every two years? Off to France I go.

Oh please partisan violence was almost non-existent in the Anglo-Saxon world into very recently, no?


Well, we don’t live in “until recently” anymore, do we? Nope, now we live in the world where you can’t go to a political rally without someone getting punched by a neo-Nazi or an anarcho-socialist.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 pm

Purgatio wrote:
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Ah yes, because sharia law isn't a thing in Saudi Arabia then.

His view is biased since he IS a muslim. An islamist even it seems.


I've seen nothing in the poster's views suggesting he's an Islamist. Unless you're implying Muslim = Islamist

No he very much is.

So, 2 confirmed dead, 13 injured.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:"All Muslims Are ISIS." But I'm just saying things nobody actually said.


Most Muslims aren't ISIS because they integrated into Western Societies. Their book tells them to be ISIS tho.

But that's ok, keep being deaf. Keep allowing actual fascists to get in power. Keep ignoring it.


Their book... tells them to join... a terrorist group that didn't exist until 1,400 years later?
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Calling for war =/= directly calling for the murder of innocents.

It is because peace is better than killing an unfair regime along with countless innocents.


AHAHAH i'm sure that's what Chamberlain said when Hitler was about to invade Poland.

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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:The Pope can call for a Crusade, but he doesn't. Wanna know why? Because if it says you can, it doesn't mean you need to.


So let's just ignore the problem! And sing as our societies accomodate these backwards thoughts! Also the Pope is a fucking cunt who equated abortion with hired killers. Not a role model.

This is pissing me off. It seems that someone thinks that all Muslims are ISIS and should die. Well, that would include children. Do you want innocent kids to die because you hate Islam? And this Pope is one of the most Liberal Popes in history, unless you want to go back to the Popes who were evil, he's a great guy.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:37 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Yes they do. Bunch of Animals with animalistic laws.


>Person who is Middle Eastern tells you what the deal is
>You, clearly more knowledgeable, "Animals with animalistic laws"

Keep it going, mate.

I'm not Middle Eastern. I'm African-American.
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Kannap wrote:
>Person who is Middle Eastern tells you what the deal is
>You, clearly more knowledgeable, "Animals with animalistic laws"

Keep it going, mate.


Ah yes, because sharia law isn't a thing in Saudi Arabia then.

Correct. At least not 100%. And no where in the Holy Qur'an is ISIS mentioned.
Sukberia wrote:His view is biased since he IS a muslim.

That's not bias, that's knowing my religion.
Sukberia wrote:An islamist even it seems.

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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Prusenreich » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:37 pm

I think the refugees are the problem the few European states that are anti refugee(Poland, Hungary) don't have as many terrorist attacks probably not a coincidence
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:37 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Most Muslims aren't ISIS because they integrated into Western Societies. Their book tells them to be ISIS tho.

But that's ok, keep being deaf. Keep allowing actual fascists to get in power. Keep ignoring it.


Their book... tells them to join... a terrorist group that didn't exist until 1,400 years later?


Ugh... no.

It tells them to kill innocents. Like their prophet Muhammed (PBUH) did.

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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:37 pm

Netherspace wrote:
Olerand wrote:In Pakistan? Certainly not. In Afghanistan, yes, the US activated the NATO mutual defense clause.


Oh please partisan violence was almost non-existent in the Anglo-Saxon world into very recently, no?


Well, we don’t live in “until recently” anymore, do we? Nope, now we live in the world where you can’t go to a political rally without someone getting punched by a neo-Nazi or an anarcho-socialist.

I think that is an exaggeration no? All political rallies? I wouldn't be surprised, per se, but still.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:37 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
How do you intend to invade sovereign countries without killing innocents in the process? Are you aware what war generally entails?


Calling for war =/= directly calling for the murder of innocents.


I'll repeat his questions, "How do you intend to invade sovereign countries without killing innocents in the process? Are you aware what war generally entails?"
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Postby Purgatio » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:37 pm

Olerand wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
I've seen nothing in the poster's views suggesting he's an Islamist. Unless you're implying Muslim = Islamist

No he very much is.

So, 2 confirmed dead, 13 injured.


I was referring to Kumumba Tribe, not the terrorist.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:37 pm

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Be careful not to arrive when the revolutionary government's clock strikes the metric 17:93. That's when Robespierre breaks out the guillotines.


I’d better hurry, before ours reaches 18:61 and all the whiny states break off.


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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:"All Muslims Are ISIS." But I'm just saying things nobody actually said.


Most Muslims aren't ISIS because they integrated into Western Societies. Their book tells them to be ISIS tho.

But that's ok, keep being deaf. Keep allowing actual fascists to get in power. Keep ignoring it.

You do notice that the Qur'an wasn't written at a time of Isis?
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Prusenreich wrote:I think the refugees are the problem the few European states that are anti refugee(Poland, Hungary) don't have as many terrorist attacks probably not a coincidence


IIRC refugees don't usually want to stay in Eastern Europe.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
So let's just ignore the problem! And sing as our societies accomodate these backwards thoughts! Also the Pope is a fucking cunt who equated abortion with hired killers. Not a role model.

This is pissing me off. It seems that someone thinks that all Muslims are ISIS and should die. Well, that would include children. Do you want innocent kids to die because you hate Islam? And this Pope is one of the most Liberal Popes in history, unless you want to go back to the Popes who were evil, he's a great guy.

:roll:

Alright the one poster who's dominating the debate with this argument does not care. Flat out, he does not. There is no point in furthering the discussion or the appeals to humanity or tolerance or whatever, you know he does not care.

Prusenreich wrote:I think the refugees are the problem the few European states that are anti refugee(Poland, Hungary) don't have as many terrorist attacks probably not a coincidence

This guy was born in Strasbourg.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:39 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Their book... tells them to join... a terrorist group that didn't exist until 1,400 years later?


Ugh... no.

It tells them to kill innocents. Like their prophet Muhammed (PBUH) did.

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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:39 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Most Muslims aren't ISIS because they integrated into Western Societies. Their book tells them to be ISIS tho.

But that's ok, keep being deaf. Keep allowing actual fascists to get in power. Keep ignoring it.

You do notice that the Qur'an wasn't written at a time of Isis?

I don't think he understands that because someone's Muslim, that doesn't mean they're a terrorist.
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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:39 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Olerand wrote:No he very much is.

So, 2 confirmed dead, 13 injured.


I was referring to Kumumba Tribe, not the terrorist.

As was I. See his post.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:39 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
>Person who is Middle Eastern tells you what the deal is
>You, clearly more knowledgeable, "Animals with animalistic laws"

Keep it going, mate.


Ah yes, because sharia law isn't a thing in Saudi Arabia then.

His view is biased since he IS a muslim. An islamist even it seems.


Your view is biased by your obvious burning hatred of Muslims.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:39 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Netherspace wrote:
I’d better hurry, before ours reaches 18:61 and all the whiny states break off.


Good thing we 'Muricans use Freedom UnitsTM* instead of those pesky Euro-Metrics!

*Freedom UnitsTM, of course, meaning British-made imperial units.


I'll have you know that the US system is only based on British-made Imperial units. Like any good Capitalist nation, we took the idea, modified it in a minor way, and renamed it and called it ours. US Customary Units.

Which is also rooted and defined in the metric system, fun fact.
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Postby The South Falls » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:40 pm

Prusenreich wrote:I think the refugees are the problem the few European states that are anti refugee(Poland, Hungary) don't have as many terrorist attacks probably not a coincidence

There are still terror attacks in Poland. Also, that would say that America should have a terrorist attack once s day.
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Postby Snottistan » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:40 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Most Muslims aren't ISIS because they integrated into Western Societies. Their book tells them to be ISIS tho.

But that's ok, keep being deaf. Keep allowing actual fascists to get in power. Keep ignoring it.


Their book... tells them to join... a terrorist group that didn't exist until 1,400 years later?

Wow, he really was a prophet.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:40 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
Ah yes, because sharia law isn't a thing in Saudi Arabia then.

His view is biased since he IS a muslim. An islamist even it seems.


I've seen nothing in the poster's views suggesting he's an Islamist. Unless you're implying Muslim = Islamist

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Postby Prusenreich » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:40 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Prusenreich wrote:I think the refugees are the problem the few European states that are anti refugee(Poland, Hungary) don't have as many terrorist attacks probably not a coincidence


IIRC refugees don't usually want to stay in Eastern Europe.

Probably because they know eastern Europeans Don't want to be hit with a Muslim car bomb (only Slavic car bombs)
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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:40 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
Sukberia wrote:
So let's just ignore the problem! And sing as our societies accomodate these backwards thoughts! Also the Pope is a fucking cunt who equated abortion with hired killers. Not a role model.

This is pissing me off. It seems that someone thinks that all Muslims are ISIS and should die. Well, that would include children. Do you want innocent kids to die because you hate Islam? And this Pope is one of the most Liberal Popes in history, unless you want to go back to the Popes who were evil, he's a great guy.


I don't want all Muslims to die. That would be saying i want my ancestors to cease to exist. Hence i wouldn't exist!

But if we don't accept the fact that their ideology is cancerous to its core, and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, then we will keep having terrorist attacks, and the far-right will get to power, and then we will all be slaves to Putin.

We made christianity bend the knee, just like judaism ( altough in a different manner). Islam needs to submit too, or die. (die as in, stop people from worshipping, kick all those who refuse, stop its influence in society to those who stay.)

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