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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:25 pm

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We don't trhrow people off roofs here, nor we stone women and scientists. And we don't make worshipping pedophiles mandatory

Neither do Middle Eastern countries. In Saudi I'm pretty sure that'd get you killed.


Yes they do. Bunch of Animals with animalistic laws.

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Postby Torrocca » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:26 pm

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And here I was thinking it was my time to shine ;~;

The lois scélérates took care of your friends back when Italy's main exportation was bomb throwers and they were still relevant. :p


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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:26 pm

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I was responding to a poster advocating bombing the Middle East. I wasn't implying bombing the Middle East would have prevented this attack (although the person I was replying to was, I think)


No but it would prevent it from speading so much.

What's spreading?
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:26 pm

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Olerand wrote:It really couldn't be alt-rightists, not at a Christmas market. Also, the alt-right is a pathetic disease that we thankfully do not suffer from. We have their much more credible, and more threatening predecessors, who actually have an ideology and less trolls, the identarian movement.

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Postby Netherspace » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:26 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:Where are you? Not suffering from the alt-right sounds like paradise.

In France. The identitaires are what the alt-right wish they could be. A coherent organization with a history of (toxic) thinkers and an organized ideology. Less trolling, but actually, more violence. Clashes between them and far-left groups happen every few years or so, lead to a death or two, and the dissolution and imprisonment of a organization and its members.


Partisan violence only every two years? Off to France I go.

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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:26 pm

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First off: Hadn't we fought Germany, they would've slaughtered ALL the Jews. You're right we didn't do it on time. We shoudl've stopped them right when Hitler moved on the Rhineland.

Second of all: WE NEVER INVADED THE NATIONS THAT I TALKED ABOUT. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, or Egypt.

Third of all: " don't claim your plan is pro-women or pro-gay." I'm one of France's most pro-gay leftist, since most like Islam so much.

I'm pretty sure France was involved in Pakistan to assist the US.


And... we allowed Islamists to retain control of the country. But since they aren't terrorists... yet... we can call that a victory.

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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:27 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Neither do Middle Eastern countries. In Saudi I'm pretty sure that'd get you killed.


Yes they do. Bunch of Animals with animalistic laws.

This is getting racist really fast. If we killed the ME, then what would that accomplish besides killing millions of innocents?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:27 pm

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Olerand wrote:It really couldn't be alt-rightists, not at a Christmas market. Also, the alt-right is a pathetic disease that we thankfully do not suffer from. We have their much more credible, and more threatening predecessors, who actually have an ideology and less trolls, the identarian movement.

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We did it with Hugo Boss outfits, not t-shirts and blue jeans.

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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:28 pm

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You actually didn't. I stand corrected. Disregard all those of me saying that.

Heres a hint, when you go to call someone X, Y and Z, make sure they have actually supported X, Y and Z.

Or else your are talking out your fucking hole.

For example, i have a signature, with a spoiler box called "stuff and thangs" with a "neh" segment in red, showing its bad, and in that segment is "National/Religious Wankery" and "Zealots" theocratic assholes who dictate how people live their lives due to fucking books from centures ago because sky man fall under that category. So it was fucking obvious from the get go, i dont support the likes of Iran or Saudi Arabia.


Advocating for non-intervention can sometimes have the same results.

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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:28 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:I'm pretty sure France was involved in Pakistan to assist the US.


And... we allowed Islamists to retain control of the country. But since they aren't terrorists... yet... we can call that a victory.

I am 100% certain the US has never invaded Pakistan.
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:28 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:I'm pretty sure France was involved in Pakistan to assist the US.


And... we allowed Islamists to retain control of the country. But since they aren't terrorists... yet... we can call that a victory.

Muslims aren't terrorists. They simply follow their own religion. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:28 pm

Sukberia wrote: I'm one of France's most pro-gay leftist, since most like Islam so much.


You got a source declaring you as such or are you just making generalizations and random claims?
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:28 pm

>when you're horrified by an act of violence and the death of innocents but log onto a forum to suggest genocide and turning the Middle East into glass.

This is certainly A Thread.
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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:28 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
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And... we allowed Islamists to retain control of the country. But since they aren't terrorists... yet... we can call that a victory.

I am 100% certain the US has never invaded Pakistan.

The US was in Pakistan to fight Al-Qaeda in the area.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:29 pm

Netherspace wrote:
Olerand wrote:In France. The identitaires are what the alt-right wish they could be. A coherent organization with a history of (toxic) thinkers and an organized ideology. Less trolling, but actually, more violence. Clashes between them and far-left groups happen every few years or so, lead to a death or two, and the dissolution and imprisonment of a organization and its members.


Partisan violence only every two years? Off to France I go.


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Postby Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:29 pm

Netherspace wrote:
Olerand wrote:It really couldn't be alt-rightists, not at a Christmas market. Also, the alt-right is a pathetic disease that we thankfully do not suffer from. We have their much more credible, and more threatening predecessors, who actually have an ideology and less trolls, the identarian movement.

Well, a large portion of the alt-right is actually atheists. And honestly, I do believe that it was an Islamic terrorist, either that or just some random nutjob. I just didn’t want to say my opinion because then I would be drawn into this madness.

Even if atheists, attacking a Christmas market is a wrong choice of targeting.

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Olerand wrote:It really couldn't be alt-rightists, not at a Christmas market. Also, the alt-right is a pathetic disease that we thankfully do not suffer from. We have their much more credible, and more threatening predecessors, who actually have an ideology and less trolls, the identarian movement.

They're just as much of LARP-ers and as vilified as them, tho, and I doubt one could say they're much more organized.

From what I understand of LARP-ing, all far-right and far-left groups are LARP-ers. The Antifas throwing Molotov cocktails at the CRS are LARP-ing too, wishing they could be in Berlin in the 1930s.


But you have to admit, LARP-ers that they are, the identitaires are more... credible than the alt-right.

And vilified, well, yes of course they are.

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Olerand wrote:It really couldn't be alt-rightists, not at a Christmas market. Also, the alt-right is a pathetic disease that we thankfully do not suffer from. We have their much more credible, and more threatening predecessors, who actually have an ideology and less trolls, the identarian movement.

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What's the alternative? You go to the west and you have the alt-right, you go to the south and you have the Islamists, you to to the east and you have Slavic Neo-Nazis (sic). So... At least ours are marginally more impressive.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:29 pm

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Len Hyet wrote:I am 100% certain the US has never invaded Pakistan.

The US was in Pakistan to fight Al-Qaeda in the area.

And Afghanistan.
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:29 pm

Sukberia wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Neither do Middle Eastern countries. In Saudi I'm pretty sure that'd get you killed.


Yes they do. Bunch of Animals with animalistic laws.

Mate, no. There are some legitimately terrible laws in Islam. But they’re not any more animals than the rest of us. Your view is objectively wrong.
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And... we allowed Islamists to retain control of the country. But since they aren't terrorists... yet... we can call that a victory.

Muslims aren't terrorists. They simply follow their own religion. There's nothing wrong with that.

But there are terrorist Muslims. Additionally, some parts of the religion are awful.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:30 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:>when you're horrified by an act of violence and the death of innocents but log onto a forum to suggest genocide and turning the Middle East into glass.

This is certainly A Thread.


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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:30 pm

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Toaslandia wrote:Better than the bloody EU right now.


We don't trhrow people off roofs here, nor we stone women and scientists. And we don't make worshipping pedophiles mandatory

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Postby Toaslandia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:30 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Toaslandia wrote:The US was in Pakistan to fight Al-Qaeda in the area.

And Afghanistan.

Yes, can't forget the good old Afghans.
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Postby Netherspace » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:30 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:>when you're horrified by an act of violence and the death of innocents but log onto a forum to suggest genocide and turning the Middle East into glass.

This is certainly A Thread.


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Postby Sukberia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:30 pm

Toaslandia wrote:
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Yes they do. Bunch of Animals with animalistic laws.

This is getting racist really fast. If we killed the ME, then what would that accomplish besides killing millions of innocents?


First off: I have arabic ancestors. My family name is Arabic in its origin but had to be changed during the Portuguese Inquisition.

Second off: It's not racist to insult an ideology. Yes if you throw gays off building, stone supposed adulterers and make worship mandatory, then you're a fucking animal. Even if you're white.

Thirdly: Again, i DONT ADVOCATE FOR THE MURDER OF INNOCENTS. Just that their countries be crushed and their backwards medieval laws reversed.

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Postby Kannap » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:30 pm

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I had a teacher once who would've called that diarrhea of the mouth.

Oh its far tooo prevalent on this forum. Probably needs shut down for a month so the health service can give it a once over.


You can be sure posters would hold their pent up rage for that month and day one back would be every NS Summer on record combined into one day.
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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:31 pm

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Olerand wrote:It really couldn't be alt-rightists, not at a Christmas market. Also, the alt-right is a pathetic disease that we thankfully do not suffer from. We have their much more credible, and more threatening predecessors, who actually have an ideology and less trolls, the identarian movement.

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