Strasbourg terrorist incident

[Len Hyet]

If the police know who this guy is and have seen him, why haven't they released any information about him? Is that just a European thing? I would think they would want people to know what this guy looks like in case they run into him if he's still at large. This whole thing just seems strange.

The Brothers Tsarnaev: A Case Study on Not Releasing Information to the Public

[Toaslandia]

"Wipe the ME" as in "Make these nations submit". Not really nuke them. I don't advocate for the murder of innocents.

Or you could just isolate them until they de-islamify and join the rest of humanity again.

Let's not.

[Kannap]

Aaaand we've crossed the fucking threshhold from racism to murderous lunacy. NO BRAKES ON THE RACE TRAIN.

Brakes can't help a train that's already derailed and is rapidly skidding on its side towards a ravine.

[Toaslandia]

"Wipe the ME" as in "Make these nations submit". Not really nuke them. I don't advocate for the murder of innocents.

Make them submit....by bombing them, yes? Bombs which can hit civilians - including women and homosexuals (the people you wanna protect). Did you invent a 'straight male Muslim-only' bomb that I don't know about? Does this technology exist?

To the far-right it does I guess.

[Olerand]

Release a statement to calm the public. A terrorist attack is pretty bad and if the public panics something else bad could happen too.

I imagine the EU parliament would allow the French government to make any statements first.

No one's waiting for their statement anyway.

It's 2018, I don't believe we're supposed to kink-shame anymore.


... Uh...

You want the MEPs, or those who are even present in Strasbourg today, to roam the streets of the city and hunt this man down?


Is it? I mean... Being in the country that has suffered the most... I would say no, but I'm sure you are privy to secret information on the issue.

Far west Germany does things weird. You can’t expect the people there to be a reflection of reality when they keep calling themselves French.

Right. So no it's not.

You can't deport citizens.

Authoritarian nationalist demagogues (of the kind the poster seems to be referring to) have generally not been above ignoring constitutional limitations on their powers.

Yeah, Marine Le Pen, as unlikely as her presidency, is... most likely, not assuredly, but most likely, not going to be Duterte.

B's already been done, beyond the point of saturation. And every time this happens, point A is in contention until it no longer is, and then the deflection and pogrom fetishism continues. After a while, it's just boring.

So you're saying because Islamophobic comments consistently follow Islamist attacks, that everytime a terrorist attack happens we can pre-empt Islamophobic remarks even before knowing if the attack is actually Islamist (again, disclaimer, information could be outdated at time of post, new info keeps coming)

Both the anti-Islam posts and the posts deflecting and fetishizing pogroms are to be expected yes. This isn't the first, as they say, ride at the rodeo or whatever.

B-but shootings don't happen in Europe!

Terrorist attacks certainly do. America should know all about those. We don't get our schools, hospitals, and whatever shot up though, no.

Also, "Europe" doesn't mean anything in this context. Switzerland is not France which is not Lithuania.

[Sukberia]

Are you advocating for the existance of states that stone women for adultery, throw gays of buildings and support terrorism?

Oh nevermind, you're a socialist. Of course you do.

Easily the most idiotic pair of sentences in this thread and that is saying something.

No actually i dont, but obviously you know more about what i believe than i ever could because OHHHHHHHHHHHHH SCARY RED MANS OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

But advocating destruction and killing of people or places is against the rules so dont do it.

So you believe that these nations should just exist with their backwards laws? Ok then.

Also... you don't advocate for that? Uh, because socialist nations were true utopias. (Granted that their final project was never completer, they were shitholes nonetheless.) So it's funny to see you advocate for places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran and Pakistan.

[Toaslandia]

Aaaand we've crossed the fucking threshhold from racism to murderous lunacy. NO BRAKES ON THE RACE TRAIN.

Brakes can't help a train that's already derailed and is rapidly skidding on its side towards a ravine.

Conductor: WE"RE GONNA SMASH INTO THE RAVINE OF CONTROVERSY! AHHHHH!

[Netherspace]

Jesus Christ, can you people not turn this into a political thing for once? Could you all just take a damn second to mourn the loss of life before making it into an ideological rant? People fucking died, and that is a terrible, terrible thing, no matter who did it. Is the most likely and popular theory that it was a radical Islamist? Yes. Could it have also been an alt-rightist, or just some randomly, non-politically-motivated nutjob? Yes! And that does not mean that all Muslims are evil ISIS terrorists, or that the mainstream media thinks they are. For the love of God, NSG, grow a fucking sense of compassion. This is why I stick to II and F7.

[Kubumba Tribe]

We do not need to destroy religions. Muslim's have the right to worship, and not all secular nations are civilized. Just look at the DRC or DPRK.

Both th DRC and the DPRK are anti-theist societies dominated by communism. And the DPRK are not REALLY secular. They almost worship their dead leaders.

They aren't communist.

[Kannap]

If the police know who this guy is and have seen him, why haven't they released any information about him? Is that just a European thing? I would think they would want people to know what this guy looks like in case they run into him if he's still at large. This whole thing just seems strange.

Well, guy holding a big guy is a red flag if you see him. Besides, my understanding is he's stuck in one spot and police have him cornered.

[Toaslandia]

Easily the most idiotic pair of sentences in this thread and that is saying something.

No actually i dont, but obviously you know more about what i believe than i ever could because OHHHHHHHHHHHHH SCARY RED MANS OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

But advocating destruction and killing of people or places is against the rules so dont do it.

So you believe that these nations should just exist with their backwards laws? Ok then.

Also... you don't advocate for that? Uh, because socialist nations were true utopias. (Granted that their final project was never completer, they were shitholes nonetheless.) So it's funny to see you advocate for places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran and Pakistan.

Better than the bloody EU right now.

[Right wing humour squad]

Or you could just isolate them until they de-islamify and join the rest of humanity again.

Let's not.

Sweet future diversity attacks are on you. I’m sure you have the wealth to pay for the loss of life and damages.

[Sukberia]

"Wipe the ME" as in "Make these nations submit". Not really nuke them. I don't advocate for the murder of innocents.

Make them submit....by bombing them, yes? Bombs which can hit civilians - including women and homosexuals (the people you wanna protect). Did you invent a 'straight male Muslim-only' bomb that I don't know about? Does this technology exist?

You're right, it's best to let them exist. Like we should have to Nazi Germany? Appeasement 2.0?

[Toaslandia]

Both th DRC and the DPRK are anti-theist societies dominated by communism. And the DPRK are not REALLY secular. They almost worship their dead leaders.

They aren't communist.

They're closer to fascism I'd say.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Easily the most idiotic pair of sentences in this thread and that is saying something.

No actually i dont, but obviously you know more about what i believe than i ever could because OHHHHHHHHHHHHH SCARY RED MANS OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

But advocating destruction and killing of people or places is against the rules so dont do it.

So you believe that these nations should just exist with their backwards laws? Ok then.

Also... you don't advocate for that? Uh, because socialist nations were true utopias. (Granted that their final project was never completer, they were shitholes nonetheless.) So it's funny to see you advocate for places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran and Pakistan.

Where have i advocated for those countries and their theocratic laws.

Show me the posts.

Go on.

[Fartsniffage]

If the police know who this guy is and have seen him, why haven't they released any information about him? Is that just a European thing? I would think they would want people to know what this guy looks like in case they run into him if he's still at large. This whole thing just seems strange.

The Brothers Tsarnaev: A Case Study on Not Releasing Information to the Public

Nah, it's pretty common in Europe not to release the identity until the police have a chance to round up their family/friends/co-conspirators. Seeing the name of the suspect on the news might make them flee before they can be interviewed.

[Aeritania]

If the police know who this guy is and have seen him, why haven't they released any information about him? Is that just a European thing? I would think they would want people to know what this guy looks like in case they run into him if he's still at large. This whole thing just seems strange.

The Brothers Tsarnaev: A Case Study on Not Releasing Information to the Public

What are you trying to say? I don't have an exact recollection of the Marathon Bombings, what happened with them?

[Sukberia]

So you believe that these nations should just exist with their backwards laws? Ok then.

Also... you don't advocate for that? Uh, because socialist nations were true utopias. (Granted that their final project was never completer, they were shitholes nonetheless.) So it's funny to see you advocate for places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran and Pakistan.

Better than the bloody EU right now.

We don't trhrow people off roofs here, nor we stone women and scientists. And we don't make worshipping pedophiles mandatory

[Kannap]

I imagine the EU parliament would allow the French government to make any statements first.

No one's waiting for their statement anyway.

Wait, doesn't the EU parliament meet in Brussels? What are they doing in Strasbourg anyway?

[Toaslandia]

Make them submit....by bombing them, yes? Bombs which can hit civilians - including women and homosexuals (the people you wanna protect). Did you invent a 'straight male Muslim-only' bomb that I don't know about? Does this technology exist?

You're right, it's best to let them exist. Like we should have to Nazi Germany? Appeasement 2.0?

We can't kill millions of people because we don't like their religion. That's against human rights, unfortunately for you.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Let's not.

Sweet future diversity attacks are on you. I’m sure you have the wealth to pay for the loss of life and damages.

Diversity attacks don't exist.

[Len Hyet]

Make them submit....by bombing them, yes? Bombs which can hit civilians - including women and homosexuals (the people you wanna protect). Did you invent a 'straight male Muslim-only' bomb that I don't know about? Does this technology exist?

You're right, it's best to let them exist. Like we should have to Nazi Germany? Appeasement 2.0?

Most people would say avoiding the inevitable deaths of millions that would be required to wage World War 3: Middle East Meatgrinder is a good thing but hey, you wanna go invade Saudi Arabia let us know how that goes.

[Sukberia]

Both th DRC and the DPRK are anti-theist societies dominated by communism. And the DPRK are not REALLY secular. They almost worship their dead leaders.

They aren't communist.

Yes, but even when they WERE, the situation regarding secularism was the same.

[Toaslandia]

Better than the bloody EU right now.

We don't trhrow people off roofs here, nor we stone women and scientists. And we don't make worshipping pedophiles mandatory

But you guys DO want to smash free speech with your laws that affect us across the globe.

[Olerand]

If the police know who this guy is and have seen him, why haven't they released any information about him? Is that just a European thing? I would think they would want people to know what this guy looks like in case they run into him if he's still at large. This whole thing just seems strange.

What for? You'll get when the prosecutor of Paris, who is in charge of terrorism cases, releases his statement.

Someone assigned the "S" card on the Interior Ministry's list of researched persons. S stands for Sûreté de l'État, or Security of the State. As in, they are a threat to the security of the State. Not necessarily Islamists, they could be anarchists

Hmmm... guess that means I'm popular in France. :3

We have plenty of anarchists. Most aren't relevant enough to be fiché S.

Someone assigned the "S" card on the Interior Ministry's list of researched persons. S stands for Sûreté de l'État, or Security of the State. As in, they are a threat to the security of the State. Not necessarily Islamists, they could be anarchists, neo-Nazis, etc. There are about 11,000 people with this appellation, give or take.

So what's the implication of the Interior Ministry labelling you 'S'? Is it just the typical extra scrutiny and surveillance and vigilance?

Officially, yes. Logistically no.

Sure, just make up a law that says otherwise.

Make a law saying citizens can be deported? Vive la révolution

Deport them where? If you're French, and only French, we're going to deport you to...

"Wipe the ME" as in "Make these nations submit". Not really nuke them. I don't advocate for the murder of innocents.

Make them submit....by bombing them, yes? Bombs which can hit civilians - including women and homosexuals (the people you wanna protect). Did you invent a 'straight male Muslim-only' bomb that I don't know about? Does this technology exist?

Right... Well changes are we didn't bomb this man, who was born in Strasbourg in 1989. So, these comments are a little irrelevant to this, and to France really.