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Strasbourg terrorist incident

Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:04 pm

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-46530265

BBC and other sources are reporting a mass shooting in the French city of Strasbourg, the seat of the European Parliament (a distinction shared with Brussels). It's currently being reported that 2 civilians have died and 11 have been left wounded. The perpetrator, who has been identified as a 29 year old Strasbourg-born suspected extremist but has not been publically named, received a gunshot wound from soldiers but has not been apprehended as of yet; the search is ongoing.

Although it's too early to draw any conclusions about the incident, it has all the hallmarks of an Islamist terror attack. Notably the shooting occurred close to a major Christmas market in Strasbourg; this is, of course, not the first time Islamists have targeted a Christmas market. That having been said, based on the information so far released by the French authorities, it isn't beyond possibility that the attack was unrelated to radical Islam- a far-right attack similar to the one carried out by Anders Bering Breivik in Norway in 2011 is also plausible.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:07 pm

Terrorism is the new normal in Europe unfortunately.

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Postby Aellex » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:10 pm

4 deads by now and it's pretty much confirmed the attacker was an islamist like the half a dozen or so cunts prior to him given he was "fiché S".
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:11 pm

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:13 pm

Is it an Islamist or is it not?

The pivotal question.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:14 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Terrorism is the new normal in Europe unfortunately.


New? Terrorism has been a thing in Europe for far longer than I have been alive.
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Postby Loben » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:15 pm

Better stop having the christmas markets then.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:16 pm

When i heard about this earlier i heard only 2 were injured, condolences to the families of those that died.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:16 pm

Vassenor wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Terrorism is the new normal in Europe unfortunately.


New? Terrorism has been a thing in Europe for far longer than I have been alive.

Thank you for intentionally misinterpreting my post. I'm saying that it is more of a problem now, not that the terrorism itself is new.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:17 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
New? Terrorism has been a thing in Europe for far longer than I have been alive.

Thank you for intentionally misinterpreting my post. I'm saying that it is more of a problem now, not that the terrorism itself is new.


Not really.

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Postby Tanaeria » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:18 pm

Loben wrote:Better stop having the christmas markets then.

of course not, we shouldn't change because of some bloke. We should stop having religion instead.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:18 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Is it an Islamist or is it not?

The pivotal question.

According to Aellex it was.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:18 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Thank you for intentionally misinterpreting my post. I'm saying that it is more of a problem now, not that the terrorism itself is new.


Not really.

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I stand corrected, but that graph should be updated.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:19 pm

Tanaeria wrote:
Loben wrote:Better stop having the christmas markets then.

of course not, we shouldn't change because of some bloke. We should stop having religion instead.

>Says we shouldn't change because of some bloke
>Ends up saying we should change because of some bloke
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Is it an Islamist or is it not?

The pivotal question.

According to Aellex it was.


Whereas all the sources I'm reading say nothing beyond "identified as a known potential extremist".
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Postby Loben » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:Is it an Islamist or is it not?

The pivotal question.

According to Aellex it was.

Yes because a Christian would attack a market in connection in what is probably the holiest days in thr calender.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:21 pm

Loben wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:According to Aellex it was.

Yes because a Christian would attack a market in connection in what is probably the holiest days in thr calender.


If the Tet Offensive has taught us anything, it's that sometimes that sort of thing can happen.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:23 pm

Loben wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:According to Aellex it was.

Yes because a Christian would attack a market in connection in what is probably the holiest days in thr calender.

Well a far-right pagan could have done the attack, but I doubt it. Jihadist is much more likely.

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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:24 pm

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:24 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Loben wrote:Yes because a Christian would attack a market in connection in what is probably the holiest days in thr calender.

Well a far-right pagan could have done the attack, but I doubt it. Jihadist is much more likely.

No it's not.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:26 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Well a far-right pagan could have done the attack, but I doubt it. Jihadist is much more likely.

No it's not.


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Postby Geneviev » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:26 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Loben wrote:Yes because a Christian would attack a market in connection in what is probably the holiest days in thr calender.

Well a far-right pagan could have done the attack, but I doubt it. Jihadist is much more likely.

I don't think so. It wasn't said yet.
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Postby Aellex » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:29 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:According to Aellex it was.


Whereas all the sources I'm reading say nothing beyond "identified as a known potential extremist".

Are we gonna play that fucking game with every terror attack that happen where you keep on putting your fingers in your ears and bitch about how it tots ain't islamists until surprise surprise, it turns out it's fucking islamists again because it's always the fucking islamists and then you'll try and bitch about how it proves that everyone is raycist?
It's been what, six ? Eight? Ten times by now? I think I've stopped counting at some point.


But yes, the guy was fiché S which means that he was considered as a danger to the safety of the State which means that he was neither a madman nor a small criminal.
So yeah, Isis supporter most likely.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:29 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:

I stand corrected, but that graph should be updated.

Now that I looked at the graph further, there is still a recent spike, which is concerning, even though there were decades where it was much higher. Not the worst it has ever been, but still not good.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:30 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:No it's not.


If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck then it's probably a duck.

Well it doesn't.
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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