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Postby Katganistan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:30 pm

Kash Island wrote:
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You haven't been right once this thread, that wont change here. If you call an Hispanic an illegal alien just because they are Hispanic, that is racist.


I never disputed that, that would be racist yes, your point?

actually, not even sure Hispanic is it's own race, it's just white and native american mixed.

THAT is ignorant and racist.
Hispanic JUST means Spanish speaking. SPANIARDS are Hispanic.
So are Dominicans. So are the Argentines of Chinese descent. Hispanics can be any race.

https://www.census.gov/topics/populatio ... about.html

Could you NOT speak if you don't know what you're talking about, Kash?

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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:32 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:Does anyone actually care about this stuff? Does anyone actually care about dumb real life politics? I hate that stuff ngl

But tbh I doubt anythings gonna happen, not that I care.

If you hate it, then why comment on it?
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:32 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Valgora wrote:You are correct.
But what do you have against sanctuary cities?


Let's be adults and honest, are we really going to have a good conversation when you tout "redneck revolt"

really?

Where did they say that?
You're the one throwing these terms around.

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Postby Kash Island » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:33 pm

Katganistan wrote:
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I never disputed that, that would be racist yes, your point?

actually, not even sure Hispanic is it's own race, it's just white and native american mixed.

THAT is ignorant and racist.
Hispanic JUST means Spanish speaking. SPANIARDS are Hispanic.
So are Dominicans. So are the Argentines of Chinese descent. Hispanics can be any race.

https://www.census.gov/topics/populatio ... about.html

Could you NOT speak if you don't know what you're talking about, Kash?



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Postby Katganistan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:34 pm

Valgora wrote:
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Let's be adults and honest, are we really going to have a good conversation when you tout "redneck revolt"

really?

Well... what I can conclude from your dickish tone, probably not.

Hey... that's not cool.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:36 pm

Katganistan wrote:
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I never disputed that, that would be racist yes, your point?

actually, not even sure Hispanic is it's own race, it's just white and native american mixed.

THAT is ignorant and racist.
Hispanic JUST means Spanish speaking. SPANIARDS are Hispanic.
So are Dominicans. So are the Argentines of Chinese descent. Hispanics can be any race.

https://www.census.gov/topics/populatio ... about.html

Could you NOT speak if you don't know what you're talking about, Kash?


So the census asks a particular language skill as a stand alone question labelled "Ethnicity"? damn, I checked that box wrong then...
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Postby Jabberwocky » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:36 pm

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Postby Katganistan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:37 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Valgora wrote:Well... what I can conclude from your dickish tone, probably not.


It's not dickish or a tone

it's reality, your touting what is basically an "antifa" group, very radical and marxist

what would the fruits of this conversation lead to? you calling me a fascist?

They did not say anything about antifa.
They did not call you a fascist.
Could you stop shrieking about things no one has said in thread and address the topic (the Muller investigation) instead of hurling ad hominems? Thanks.

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Postby Kash Island » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:39 pm

Katganistan wrote:
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It's not dickish or a tone

it's reality, your touting what is basically an "antifa" group, very radical and marxist

what would the fruits of this conversation lead to? you calling me a fascist?

They did not say anything about antifa.
They did not call you a fascist.
Could you stop shrieking about things no one has said in thread and address the topic (the Muller investigation) instead of hurling ad hominems? Thanks.


I practically left this thread awhile ago minus a few posts and your desperatley trying to go back and find something to bitch about lol
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:40 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Katganistan wrote:They did not say anything about antifa.
They did not call you a fascist.
Could you stop shrieking about things no one has said in thread and address the topic (the Muller investigation) instead of hurling ad hominems? Thanks.


I practically left this thread awhile ago minus a few posts and your desperatley trying to go back and find something to bitch about lol

Enough. Back on topic, please.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:42 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:Does anyone actually care about this stuff? Does anyone actually care about dumb real life politics? I hate that stuff ngl

But tbh I doubt anythings gonna happen, not that I care.

Does anyone actually care about whether the President of the United States broke the law to get elected?

Uh, yeah. Totes.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:43 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:Does anyone actually care about this stuff? Does anyone actually care about dumb real life politics? I hate that stuff ngl

But tbh I doubt anythings gonna happen, not that I care.

Does anyone actually care about whether the President of the United States broke the law to get elected?

Uh, yeah. Totes.


Ironically, it seems to be the foreigners most interested on it...
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:50 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-is-telling-us-hes-got-trump-on-collusion

"For nearly two years, since the U.S. intelligence community released its report on the Russian campaign to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election, the American people have been seeking an answer as to whether the Trump campaign colluded with its Russian counterpart. In the endless speculation about the direction of the investigation, a common view was that maybe the investigation would never implicate President Trump or find any collusion.

But a flurry of recent activity this past week all points in the same direction: Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation will likely implicate the president, his campaign, and his close associates in aiding and abetting a Russian conspiracy against the United States to undermine the 2016 election." -Max Bergmann and Sam Berger, the Daily Beast

Well guys, things just got a lot muddier for the Orange in chief. Robert Mueller released a new report yesterday in which he detailed major connections between the Russian attempt to interfere with the US elections and the Trump campaign itself. Trump aid Roger Stone directed an underling to contact wikileaks about stolen material that Russian hackers nabbed from the Democratic Party. Meanwhile during the election, Trump was negotiating a major business deal in Russia after lying to voters and telling americans he had no business connections to the country. Not only did he have connections but the deal involved even the Kremlin itself, with trump bribing Vladimir Putin with a $50000000 penthouse. Russia knew about the investigation into Trump and helped him cover his tracks, but as a result the Russians took ahold of Trump. With the knowlege that he lied to the American people, Russia could blackmail Trump into supporting them or looking the other way by threatening to release the bombshell info.

The third blow to Trump in the report was the revelation of Trump's replacement of Jeff Sessions in an attempt to halt the Russia investigation, as well as the use of Paul Manafort to spy on Robert Mueller and gain access to information on the investigation, with the promise of a presidential parodon for manafort if he aided the administration. All of this amounts to obstruction of justice.

Finally, it was revealed that Trump indeed broke campaign finance laws by using funds to pay off a model whom Trump had an affair with so she would keep quiet. The sheer amount of bad news this report brought for Trump is groundbreaking, and many now wonder where we will go from here. For more details on the Mueller findings, the link to the original article is at the top of the page.


Hasn't Trump been convicted at least 10 times and sentenced to 1,000 years in prison according to the Daily Beast by now
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:50 pm

Telconi wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Does anyone actually care about whether the President of the United States broke the law to get elected?

Uh, yeah. Totes.


Ironically, it seems to be the foreigners most interested on it...

If so, that speaks very poorly of Americans.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:53 pm

Liberals have known this since 2016 and no amount of evidence will convince conservatives, so nothing really changes here tbh.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:54 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Ironically, it seems to be the foreigners most interested on it...

If so, that speaks very poorly of Americans.


If you say so... :roll:
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:54 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-is-telling-us-hes-got-trump-on-collusion

"For nearly two years, since the U.S. intelligence community released its report on the Russian campaign to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election, the American people have been seeking an answer as to whether the Trump campaign colluded with its Russian counterpart. In the endless speculation about the direction of the investigation, a common view was that maybe the investigation would never implicate President Trump or find any collusion.

But a flurry of recent activity this past week all points in the same direction: Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation will likely implicate the president, his campaign, and his close associates in aiding and abetting a Russian conspiracy against the United States to undermine the 2016 election." -Max Bergmann and Sam Berger, the Daily Beast

Well guys, things just got a lot muddier for the Orange in chief. Robert Mueller released a new report yesterday in which he detailed major connections between the Russian attempt to interfere with the US elections and the Trump campaign itself. Trump aid Roger Stone directed an underling to contact wikileaks about stolen material that Russian hackers nabbed from the Democratic Party. Meanwhile during the election, Trump was negotiating a major business deal in Russia after lying to voters and telling americans he had no business connections to the country. Not only did he have connections but the deal involved even the Kremlin itself, with trump bribing Vladimir Putin with a $50000000 penthouse. Russia knew about the investigation into Trump and helped him cover his tracks, but as a result the Russians took ahold of Trump. With the knowlege that he lied to the American people, Russia could blackmail Trump into supporting them or looking the other way by threatening to release the bombshell info.

The third blow to Trump in the report was the revelation of Trump's replacement of Jeff Sessions in an attempt to halt the Russia investigation, as well as the use of Paul Manafort to spy on Robert Mueller and gain access to information on the investigation, with the promise of a presidential parodon for manafort if he aided the administration. All of this amounts to obstruction of justice.

Finally, it was revealed that Trump indeed broke campaign finance laws by using funds to pay off a model whom Trump had an affair with so she would keep quiet. The sheer amount of bad news this report brought for Trump is groundbreaking, and many now wonder where we will go from here. For more details on the Mueller findings, the link to the original article is at the top of the page.


Hasn't Trump been convicted at least 10 times and sentenced to 1,000 years in prison according to the Daily Beast by now

Didn’t the daily beast accidentally out several gay athletes from anti-gay nations back in 2016?
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Postby Telconi » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:


Hasn't Trump been convicted at least 10 times and sentenced to 1,000 years in prison according to the Daily Beast by now

Didn’t the daily beast accidentally out several gay athletes from anti-gay nations back in 2016?


But they're totally better off now because they're not closeted...
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:02 pm

Telconi wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Daily Beast is a crap source, but yeah... Trump is a Russian puppet.


Any sources with more journalistic integrity than KCNA?


There's no need to insult KCNA with that comparison :P


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Sure, and my neighbor Robert is registered, so if I walk into a polling place and say "Hi, I'm Robert, and here to vote!" they hand me a ballot and direct me to a booth.



No they dont. Stop lying.


Hypothetically speaking, what else can they do, if they cannot ask for an ID? If Robert is your neighbor who never votes, you know him, his address, his phone, his political party preference, what more can they ask? It's not like poll workers remember the name of every single person who votes. So you can vote by absentee and "Robert" can vote at the box.


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In every election since my eighteenth birthday, and I have never once had to prove my identity at a polling place. I literally voted once off-registration, and never had to prove my identity. I voted once at an outside precinct, and never had to prove my identity.

I'm sorry the truth is impinging on your narrative, but that's what happens when your narrative is bullshit.



Lying and then insulting me isn't helping you. I have had to prove my identity everytime everywhere. Never once have said hi and they just gave me a ballot.

I know the truth hurts you, but lying out of your ass wont change it.


Telc is from Cali, a state where I've never seen anyone asked for an ID.


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Also people like Ocasio-Cortez who start talking about subpoenas after getting triggered by a meme


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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:06 pm

Katganistan wrote:
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I never disputed that, that would be racist yes, your point?

actually, not even sure Hispanic is it's own race, it's just white and native american mixed.

THAT is ignorant and racist.
Hispanic JUST means Spanish speaking. SPANIARDS are Hispanic.
So are Dominicans. So are the Argentines of Chinese descent. Hispanics can be any race.

https://www.census.gov/topics/populatio ... about.html

Could you NOT speak if you don't know what you're talking about, Kash?

The way the American government categorizes things is so fucking weird. Who gives a shit what you skin color is?
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:13 pm

Actually, I would like to see what Mueller's investigation has come up with. Many people formerly close to Trump are in a lot of trouble right now.

It also seems pretty iffy ethically to continually be talking about firing the person in charge of the investigation when there is a possibility that you, yourself, are under investigation. I mean, if you want to absolutely convince people that you are in fact afraid that your wrongdoing will be uncovered, keep firing people from the Justice Department.

And coming out and saying "firing the guy who's investigating things uncomfortably close to the President is not an impeachable offense" sounds a hell of a lot like preparing a defense to the morally indefensible.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:16 pm

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Liriena wrote:It'd have undermined your argument a lot less if you'd said "nothing" instead.


God you cant stop complaining cant you?

Not a complaint. More like a criticism laced with mockery. Project Veritas are not merely lacking in credibility; they are notorious for being grossly dishonest and malicious.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:


Hasn't Trump been convicted at least 10 times and sentenced to 1,000 years in prison according to the Daily Beast by now

Didn’t the daily beast accidentally out several gay athletes from anti-gay nations back in 2016?


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Postby Shofercia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:29 pm

Cascadian Vinland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Blah, blah, blah.

I've heard enough bullshit over the past two years about this.


Get ready for more bullshit over the next two years!


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Right-wing cities are not basitions of hope, but they also never claim to be

unlike leftists sitting on their "utopian" high horse of progressivism which has only RUINED places like Seattle and San Franscico.

Ironic...fighting for the "people" with sky high rent, homless/joblessness, filth and illegal aliens.


As opposed to fighting for the people by fucking over the manufacturing sector with insane tariffs and slashing taxes exclusively for the 1%.


How do tariffs fuck over the manufacturing sector?


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You're hopelessly naïve if you think Trump tariffs are actually why Ford and GM are laying being people. GM especially has been in a bad spot for years, the tariffs just make a convenient excuse so they don't have to admit their products are ass.


Or you're looking for excuses so Trump can't be blamed for his fuckups.


Trump should be blamed for his fuck ups. But if you're claiming that his fucksups include Ford and GM, then the joke's on you.


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Imperial Esplanade wrote:Er, can we please get back on topic before this thread is locked for thread-jacking?


Nah, this thread is a lost cause.


Because it's a daily beast for NSG :P


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I think you're vastly overestimating how much the average Republican would give a fuck if they pardoned Trump...

Republicans can't pardon Trump.


Trump resigns. Pence becomes president. Pence, a Republican, pardons Trump. Any questions?
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:35 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Hasn't Trump been convicted at least 10 times and sentenced to 1,000 years in prison according to the Daily Beast by now

Didn’t the daily beast accidentally out several gay athletes from anti-gay nations back in 2016?


Yep: https://slate.com/technology/2016/08/th ... hical.html

On Thursday morning, the Daily Beast published an exceedingly gross and bizarre article by a straight, married male writer who lured in gay Olympians through hookup apps for no particular purpose. The entire piece is an astoundingly creepy exercise in Grindr-baiting, which involves a journalist accessing Grindr in an unlikely setting and … seeing what happens. But the Daily Beast piece, penned by Nico Hines, is a uniquely disgusting and irresponsible entry into the tired genre. Hines entices his (often closeted) subjects under false pretenses; effectively outs several closeted athletes who live in repressive countries; then writes about the whole thing in a tone of mocking yet lurid condescension. By 10:30 a.m. ET, the Daily Beast had, in response to criticism, edited out the most identifying details about closeted athletes—but that’s too little, too late.



Telconi wrote:But they're totally better off now because they're not closeted...


Someone should've told the Daily Beast not to take the "if it bleeds, it leads" journalistic slogan too literally.


Valrifell wrote:Complaints about the source are on page one, you're a tad late.


Nope, as it seems that bashing the Daily Beast as a shit source is the only thing that NSG agrees on in this thread.
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I used pronouns until the mods made using wrong pronouns warnable, so I use names instead; if you see malice there, that's entirely on you, and if pronouns are no longer warnable, I'll go back to using them

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